What do you think of BOSE?

[d1abolic]

What do you think of BOSE and the overpriced trash that they manufacture?

 

[toant103]

it's alright if you don't want those hugh speakers

 

[yakko]

Bose blose.

 

[ZippZ]

Trash? I spent over $800 on my bose Acusystem 10. Sounds pretty good to me. But then again this is the only sound system I've listened to. I don't listen to much music. Or TV. Or the radio. Hmmm. I've been had haven't I?

 

[Ameesh]

god your gonna get all these people flaming you.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Bose is a genious and their technology is incredible. Although I will agree that they are overpriced.

 

[luvya]

I was gonna flame you ZippZ....but I don't want to be the first.... cc
I will wait

 

[JC]

Gee, how long before someone interjects the usual, worn-out Bose rhetoric? Let's see.....

 

[luvya]

<< Bose is a genious and their technology is incredible. Although I will agree that they are overpriced. >>



MAN! you make me want to flame you so badly!!!
must hold must hold.........:|:|:|:|:|

 

[TallBill]

hmmm.. well.. im not gonna call it overpriced garbage... cuz i dont own them or havnt really tested them.. i just know that they are WAY outta my price range.. and if i was gonna spend that much on speakers, i better be pretty damn rich... imho

 

[d1abolic]

ZippZ - i believe this is the system you're talking about? If so, to say that you've been had would be an understatement

MushroomStamper - you're being sarcastic.. right?

 

[luvya]

<< ZippZ - i believe this is the system you're talking about? If so, to say that you've been had would be an understatement

MushroomStamper - you're being sarcastic.. right? >>



I hope that's what his intend is:disgust:

 

[azdevil]

Bose

They were it for personal home theater, but like every compnay, they gained huge 'brand" awareness, then sell out...kinda.

If you are a fan of Pioneer or Sony, they have done the same thing. They sell two lines of products, the cheap Wal-Mart and even BestBuy grade, then they sell their good stuff. Because it's Sony, people pay a premium for overpriced plastic junk.

Bose has moved most of their operations to Mexico. They have introduced an inferior line of products, you may have seen the POS speakers advertied at Fry's or other places for $29 a speaker. There is no way to make a quality speaker for $29. I checked it ou, weighs about 1/4 lb and has a cardboard like speaker.

Even their little satilite speakers seem cheaper these days. I've been to audio stores and seen the inside of those satilites, they have really cut back on costs, but not price.

They still have some sweet stuff they sell in audio stores, but it seems over-priced still.
If I were Bose, I'd do the exact same thing! If people keep buying, keep overcharging.

 

[d1abolic]

I found an excellent post about BOSE on AudioReview. To save myself some time, i'll quote it:



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First of all, I want everyone to know this URL which has some interesting info on these speaker's freq. response that Bose won't publish.

I've had a lot of exposure to these but have never written a review. Howerver, I have warned many people to stay away from Bose and to *listen* to *any* other speaker in the store before buying. Had one guy (who also owns a pair of Bose 901s, BTW) go to an AV store to buy these for a
home theater setup because "Bose is the finest speaker in the world", but after taking my advice he bought a pair of Boston Acoustic speakers at a fraction of the cost instead ("They sounded much better, no comparison.") The salesman told him that he would make more money by selling the Bose,
but encouraged him to listen to other speakers and make up his own mind-- and he did...this was NOW Audio/Video, BTW. I guess the Bose marketing gestapo's will now decend on NOW, but that's OK, they should NOT be selling Bose in a Hi-Fi shop anyway (they are the local Martin Logan dealers
for heaven's sake!)

As for my own experiences, these speakers truly sould like clock radio speakers when compared to any other speaker. Back when Best Buy had a speaker room with a console set up in the middle that allowed you to select different speakers by *number* I was switching through each of the 20 or so
speakers one by one-- I had NO idea which speaker I was listening to. When I was done, I hunted down which ones sounded "best" and "worst". The "best" turned out to be a KLH $30/pair, the worst? You guessed it, a Bose AM5 at $899/pair! No lie. At the time I hadn't been exposed to
the Bose's marketing propaganda machine so I had no preconceived ideas about Bose either good nor bad. I just figured anyone could tell they sucked (no other word for it).

I learned about Bose's marketing machine by listening to the infected people (like the guy above who owned the 901's and was going to buy these audio turds solely because of Bose's reputation). I know another guy who bought these triumphs in audio research technology at Sam's Club. He too was buying based on "reputation". After he got them all set up, I had the misfortune to hear Jurassic Park on them. It sounded like you'd expect-- shrill little clock
radio speakers hanging on the wall with a warm, muddy, "room filling" bass that was clearly coming from the "bass module". He didn't understand why this Bose miracle wasn't producing the lows that he'd heard on the Kenwood SW300 powered sub I've got in my setup. The reason is because this bass module doesn't play any bass-- it only goes down to 40Hz (see the URL above for actual frequency response curves which Bose won't even publish). The bass
module is too busy filling in the mid range that the cubes can't produce to be worried about bass.

Recently I was at Sam's Club and the had the Bose display setup with the AM5 and the little silver lifestyle thing setup with it. You know, the one with the "arms" going behind you with the surround speakers on them. There was a TV built into the display and you could push buttons to
hear a Bose marketing geek indoctrinate you right there on the spot. What I found strange was when I pushed the button to play "music", it actually sounded pretty good. Nothing like I've heard from the setups I've seen at Best Buy or at NOW Audio/Video or at Circuit City or at people's home who own these. I tried to follow the signal to see what was driving these speakers, but the case was locked! There was no way to see what was actually driving
these speakers or if the signal was being EQed in some way to make these sound passable. I've read of similar experiences on this site stating that someone went to a Bose outlet and heard a home theater setup that actually sounded decent but when he asked the guy behind the
counter, he was told that the system was "tweaked" beyond any semblance of what you as a consumer would receive if you bought Bose speakers/system for yourself. There is definitely something funny going on. BEWARE OF CANNED BOSE DEMOS. >>

 

[HardcoreRobot]

No, Im being completely serious. Ive listened to him lecture before and he knows his stuff. Lots of research goes into every product. Im no audiophile nor an acoustic expert. And I don't own any Bose products. What makes you think they are trash? I dont really know where else to go from here, but I am really curious why so many people are so anti-bose. If you arent impressed with the product, dont buy it. I think it is a bit extreme/ridiculous to claim they are trash - unless of course there is something I am in the dark about.

 

[azdevil]

I agree with the shroom

Just stop your friends from buying them, and buy Bose stock.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

It just seems like there is this huge conspiracy that Bose is trying to take advantage of everyone and all these l33t "audiophiles" think it is their duty to protect the less-informed by bashing Bose. Well, maybe this is all a conspiracy started by some other company to undermine Bose? What you read on audioreview was a REVIEW. Aka opinion. Furthermore, whos to say that guy isnt full of it? When it comes to something like speakers, it seems the only sensible thing is to buy what sounds good. Seems simple enough! It really seems odd that there are so many people that just HATE Bose. If the speakers are as bad as you people claim dont you think that would be reflected in sales? Or are people being brainwashed by advertisement?

 

[TimidOCer]

hahaha shroom -


But its so easy to make fun of FAR overpriced trash ... err speakers... *phew good save* .. Seriously bose does blow.. they are crap! CRAP! Whoever you have listened to lecture you doesnt "know his stuff" he just makes it seem that way to you. Oh and you are in the dark about bose.. THEY ARE TRASH!

No highs no lows must be a bose! as the old song goes.... *btw this song would be better played on KLH speakers then bose*

 

[Raspewtin]

i would stay away from any recommendation that makes broad blanket statements about a manufacturer's entire line of speakers. No reputable reviewer would ever take such approach, and anyone who says that all Bose speakers suck really are deluding themselves. There are good bose speakers and bad bose speakers. Many are over priced, but really that's a relative term anyway. Nowadays it seems hating Bose is the new prequisite to be admitted into the club of peuso-audiophiles. lol. I have plenty of speakers ranging B&W to M&K, and certain lines of Bose speakers EASILY hold their own. If someone feels hating Bose somehow makes them appear more knowledgable audio-wise, all the more power to them.

 

[JC]

....and there it is, TimidOCer wins....err, is the first to spew...errr, say the line.

 

[TimidOCer]

<< It just seems like there is this huge conspiracy that Bose is trying to take advantage of everyone and all these l33t "audiophiles" think it is their duty to protect the less-informed by bashing Bose. Well, maybe this is all a conspiracy started by some other company to undermine Bose? What you read on audioreview was a REVIEW. Aka opinion. Furthermore, whos to say that guy isnt full of it? When it comes to something like speakers, it seems the only sensible thing is to buy what sounds good. Seems simple enough! It really seems odd that there are so many people that just HATE Bose. If the speakers are as bad as you people claim dont you think that would be reflected in sales? Or are people being brainwashed by advertisement? >>



I beleive one point they made good products then all the suddent made trash.. beats me they have a name now and people buy just because of that name.. I was in a bose store to laugh at people and I heard that piece of trash wave radio and omg I couldnt stop laughing I almost laughed loudly and a sales guy was trying to sell that hunk of crap.. $400 ! ouch.

And the home audio stuff is a joke.. completely pathetic

 

[jaeger66]

Bose is trash no matter what they charge. And anybody who judges speakers by a setup at Best Buy/Circuit City/Frys/etc. is a moron. First, the acoustics are totally inadequate for making a judgement and second all they sell is trash anyway so why even go there at all?

 

[azdevil]

Well said

 

[Raspewtin]

<< ....and there it is >>



lol. JCIV, the self-appointed audiophile god How much are the dues for the "I am cool b/c I hate Bose" club?

 

[TimidOCer]

<<

<< ....and there it is >>



lol. JCIV, the self-appointed audiophile god How much are the dues for the "I am cool b/c I hate Bose" club? >>



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