erikistired
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OK, well ask one of the mods, I sent them enough to prove conclusively I am who I say I am.
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OK, well ask one of the mods, I sent them enough to prove conclusively I am who I say I am.
It does vary, I know a fair number of few people that have had to deal with MIPs. But Kansas seems to be one of the stricter states when it comes to underage drinking laws, in states with more lax laws it's probably not an issue.
That is one of the most insane things I've ever read, your right that's bad... Where do you get a fake ID? I'd love a fake american ID, with like Las Vegas on it or something???
Personal experience, I first drank when I was 14. Thought it was cool, got drunk a lot off of straight liquor at school. Brought vodka in water bottles and drank it with friends. Over the years the whole "oooh alcohol" stage wore off and I drank more conservatively and responsibly.
Most people say I grew up faster than people of my age. So when I first got to college, it was funny seeing all of these sheltered kids go out without supervision for the first time and get wasted cause they didnt know wtf they were doing taking 15 shots.
You get a drivers license when 16 and that serves as your ID for most things. So it's just a matter of doctoring the license a little to change the year of birth. Report the license as lost and get a duplicate, it's all the same picture and number and info. Keep the original for official use and doctor up the duplicate to use in bars and liquor stores. Born in a year ending in 8, change it to a year ending in 5, you're good to go. For the most part people checking IDs in bars are doing so under fairly dim light, so it doesn't take a professional forgery to pass.
I think that's one of the coolest things about this country. Texas and California, for example, are very different places. So it makes sense that they should have their own laws that work best for each one, as opposed to one law that is a poor fit for either or both.What's an MIP? That's another thing that confuses me about America, the fact that different states have different laws, it's like their different countries!
I think that's one of the coolest things about this country. Texas and California, for example, are very different places. So it makes sense that they should have their own laws that work best for each one, as opposed to one law that is a poor fit for either or both.
But anyway, MIP = minor in possession.
OK I can see that working, but I can't think of an example that would work, have you got any?
Having a law against hunting whales in Montana really doesn't make much sense, does it?
What's an MIP? That's another thing that confuses me about America, the fact that different states have different laws, it's like their different countries!
Yeah MADD lobbied pretty hard for the increase in drinking age IIRC. I think one of the other arguments is that the brain is still developing past the age of 18 and that heavy drinking can mess up development. Don't know if there's any truth to this or not.Drinking age is 19 in most of Canada. 18 in Quebec.
Apparently the age was raised to 21 in order to reduce DUI related fatalities. Here's a link (text article) to the drinking age debate on 60 Minutes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/19/60minutes/main4813571.shtml
No but, have that law in Montana wouldn't be a problem so you could just have the one law for all the sates without any problems...
Dude, it's not that hard to understand. Theoretically, we're 50 united governments, with the federal government only having the rights explicitly given for it in the constitution-- the rest falling to the states. By design, think of it like the EU. How come the UK doesn't have to abide by French law? It'd just be easier that way, right?
It's because the UK is different than France. Yes, citizens in all the states are Americans, and we probably follow 99% of the same laws, but there are historical, cultural, geographical, etc. differences in some of us-- thus different laws exist in some states.
What's an MIP? That's another thing that confuses me about America, the fact that different states have different laws, it's like their different countries!
MIP = citation for Minor In Possession (of alcohol)
They effectively WERE separate countries until they were joined together. Because of that our legal framework was designed to allow each state to do things differently. It made a lot of sense back then, but now days it is just confusing and annoying given the mobility of the population. Give the EU a couple hundred years and it will be in the same situation.
IT could well be, it just seems the US has so many problems as a result of this whole thing and because it's one country there is a man at the top who could sort it out, in Europe it would be so complicated to get it to run that way it wouldn't be worth doing.
Absolutely wrong.
I seriously think you're either 14 or you're trolling the shit out of this forum.
IT could well be, it just seems the US has so many problems as a result of this whole thing and because it's one country there is a man at the top who could sort it out, in Europe it would be so complicated to get it to run that way it wouldn't be worth doing.
Why because I have the misgiving of assuming your president is in charge?!
The whole "man at the top" bit is misleading. The US has so many levels of government and the higher you go the less effective any individual is (regardless of their job title). For example, here is what a person in the US is governed by:
City
County
State
Country
Then add in many governing bodies that exist between city and county levels (such as a water district, sewer district, etc).
Individually, a person can wield a lot of influence at the city and county level, but at the state and country level there needs to be a group of people to accomplish anything. Because of all the compromises needed to get a group to do *anything* they really don't accomplish much of anything. You can see this in the fact that the US has only two political parties but both are so similar to be indistinguishable.
So yeah, the whole system is a clusterfuck, but short of a revolution it won't change.
Because you're retarded in thinking our president is any different than your prime minister in that he's not an absolute monarch.