What do you think will happen with Jim Cramer on the Daily show?

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Originally posted by: HeXploiT
Ouch!

Jon beat Jim Cramer up pretty bad. I was actually embarrassed for the guy.
Much more satisfying than I had anticipated.

I agree completely, which I hate to do because, dammit, you're that damn Paulbot!

As much as I love Perk (and it's to a degree that is actually illegal in 37 states), I am so glad he was wrong about this. Because, after Jon Stewart tore into CNBC, I wouldn't watch that network unless Jon Stewart was being interviewed on it, preferably by Jim Cramer. Jon hit the nail on the head with his analysis; CNBC exists solely for the benefit of people who treat the economy as though it's a game, without giving a shit about the people it might actually affect.
 

StageLeft

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Cramer just kind of sat there like a scolded kid. Those clips stewart pulled up are fairly damning. And he's right, a lot of the stock market is a big joke.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: LS8
Psssstt. It's not a real news show. Silly pot heads.

the viewers of the daily show are more educated than the viewers of the oreilly factor

Funny... cause its true. :evil:
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: HeXploiT
Ouch!

Jon beat Jim Cramer up pretty bad. I was actually embarrassed for the guy.
Much more satisfying than I had anticipated.

Stewart was in rare form. How much less that piece would have been without the old interview clips, though. But Steward does the outrage polemic well.

A lot more of this is needed, though, to create groundawell support for reform, not the apathetic ignorance that dominates now, hust waiting for numbers to get better.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: LS8
Psssstt. It's not a real news show. Silly pot heads.

the viewers of the daily show are more educated than the viewers of the oreilly factor

Care to post a statistic on that one? not that I doubt it but given the nature of the statement one would think you can back it up...

With that said Stewart is a douche, a stooge for the left and painfully annoying, I am glad I don't waste my time with watching his boorish show.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: LS8
Psssstt. It's not a real news show. Silly pot heads.

the viewers of the daily show are more educated than the viewers of the oreilly factor

Care to post a statistic on that one? not that I doubt it but given the nature of the statement one would think you can back it up...

With that said Stewart is a douche, a stooge for the left and painfully annoying, I am glad I don't waste my time with watching his boorish show.


Daily Show viewers are significantly better educated than viewers of The O'Reilly Factor.


Just a quick google got this but i remember better links in the past with better formatting. maybe someone has one here?
 

Jack Flash

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: LS8
Psssstt. It's not a real news show. Silly pot heads.

the viewers of the daily show are more educated than the viewers of the oreilly factor

Care to post a statistic on that one? not that I doubt it but given the nature of the statement one would think you can back it up...

With that said Stewart is a douche, a stooge for the left and painfully annoying, I am glad I don't waste my time with watching his boorish show.

Sorry, can I get you a box of tissues?
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: LS8
Psssstt. It's not a real news show. Silly pot heads.

the viewers of the daily show are more educated than the viewers of the oreilly factor

Care to post a statistic on that one? not that I doubt it but given the nature of the statement one would think you can back it up...

With that said Stewart is a douche, a stooge for the left and painfully annoying, I am glad I don't waste my time with watching his boorish show.

Go watch Fox News or tune in Rush?
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Stewart tore that hack a new asshole. It's safe to say that Cramer will lose viewers as a result of this interview.

NOTE TO OTHERS: Calling out Jon Stewart is not smart.
 

Thump553

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The sad thing is I think Cramer is one of the best things on CNBC. I'd never follow his stock picks (won't follow anyone's and that is not a focus of his show anyway) and Cramer's show has elements of Pee Wee's Playhouse (which can be a good thing), but Cramer at least occassionally pushes Wall Street reform and he seriously stresses his viewers do their own research in the fundamentals of a company. The rest of CNBC's staff is mainly stock pickers and they suck up nearly universally to corporate management.

Maybe this will push Cramer more into the effective reform camp, where he has been a lonely voice at CNBC.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Ah, Captain Help Desk is back to save the day. Go reboot a PC kid, it's all you're qualified for.

Stick to Rock Band, Boober. Coincidence that rhymes with loser? I think not.

edit: ROFL, a quick search shows you actually do play those games. But hey, you admitted yourself you "need new friends", so you're aware of what's going on.

Now put down the 360 and get a job this year kiddo. :laugh:

Is that really the best you can do? Big shocker, an IT guy plays video games now and then. I'm sure CNN will want in on that hot scoop.

So how's your career in installing video cards going? That must be lucrative.
 

GroundedSailor

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Stewart tore that hack a new asshole. It's safe to say that Cramer will lose viewers as a result of this interview.

NOTE TO OTHERS: Calling out Jon Stewart is not smart.

I don't know Cramer will lose to many viewers. A lot of his viewers are for the entertainment value.

What I found offensive was Joe Scarborough being far more insulting than Cramer when Cramer was on his show for a couple of days recently. Cramer came across as reasonable but Joe was behaving like a hack.

 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: HeXploiT
Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
From watching the clips they show of Cramer on TDS, I wouldn't take advice from that guy on anything. He looks and behaves like a crackhead. If he told me that fire was hot, I'd have to stick my hand in to confirm it.

If he tells you the fire is hot tune in the next week and he'll tell you it's cold. That's how Jim Cramer works. Jim Cramer has successfully predicted all events in human history with 100% accuracy since 1900 including the sinking of the Titantic.
He also predicted the exact opposite of those events and the arrival of the Titantic at New York harbor in April of 1912.


As opposed to your predictions?


ooh other good quote:

Evan:
"It's going to be funny bumping this thread when the economy not only recovers, but begins to boom starting sometime in 2009. Seriously, laymen economists are annoying. "

Yes. You are.
pot/kettle

i would trust alchy 500x more than you.

It may have been unclear because it was a quote of a quote, but I was actually referring to Evan.

It's funny to hear someone who is clearly not a professional economist complain about laymen.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Stewart tore that hack a new asshole. It's safe to say that Cramer will lose viewers as a result of this interview.

NOTE TO OTHERS: Calling out Jon Stewart is not smart.

I actually think Cramer is worried he is going to be investigated for what he said in those clips.

There's a story about him and his wife making the rounds, how they ran their hedge fund, and who they've done business with - and it's not a flattering picture to paint.

 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: ayabe
I actually think Cramer is worried he is going to be investigated for what he said in those clips.

There's a story about him and his wife making the rounds, how they ran their hedge fund, and who they've done business with - and it's not a flattering picture to paint.

I suspect you're right. Watching him try the 'he didn't do it he just said how you would do it' routine when the clips so clearly contradict that showed a panicked liar, it appeared.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: ayabe
I actually think Cramer is worried he is going to be investigated for what he said in those clips.

There's a story about him and his wife making the rounds, how they ran their hedge fund, and who they've done business with - and it's not a flattering picture to paint.

I suspect you're right. Watching him try the 'he didn't do it he just said how you would do it' routine when the clips so clearly contradict that showed a panicked liar, it appeared.

I came away with the same impression.
 

Carmen813

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Before you go hanging Cramer, realize he probably doesn't remember those clips. I have a terrible memory, I can't remember what I said yesterday. Hell, I can't remember what I said to my wife this morning. He has a greater responsibility as a journalist, but this problem is not limited to him. He was made the public face of a much larger problem, which is the sensationalism of journalism. The only lesson I hope Cramer got out of this was to not say something with absolute certainty.

Also, make sure you watch the UNEDITED interview. It's on thedailyshow.com and reveals a lot more of the conversation.

That's the only defense of him I intend to give, I think Stewart did a good job with the interview. I also think Cramer should be given credit for showing up and facing the accusations himself. That in itself takes a certain amount of class.

Personally I think the world would be a much better place without the Limbaughs, O'Reillys, Matthews, and Olbermans having so much attention.
 

HeXploiT

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: HeXploiT
Ouch!

Jon beat Jim Cramer up pretty bad. I was actually embarrassed for the guy.
Much more satisfying than I had anticipated.

Stewart was in rare form. How much less that piece would have been without the old interview clips, though. But Steward does the outrage polemic well.

Not at all. There are a plethora of damning Jim Cramer clips available and although I doubt many of them contain illegal talk such as that presented last night, a great deal of it goes on to display in brilliant fashion, the extent of Jim Cramer's fraud and circus act.
Jon could have made Jim look like a fool, instead he chose to merely display the crooked
side of him. Don Harrold has many videos exposing Jim Cramer.
 

GroundedSailor

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Originally posted by: Carmen813
I also think Cramer should be given credit for showing up and facing the accusations himself. That in itself takes a certain amount of class.
Agreed. He didn't try to run away from the issue.


 

dardin211

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Here are direct links to the unedited interview:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

Jon does an excellent job saying what needs to be said. I find it pretty sad still that a comedy news show once again does a better job at being the media, then the media itself.

I wonder after seeing this if Cramer's show gets canceled by CNBC. Lets say Cramer actually takes to heart what Jon said and tries to change his show to be honest and go after the CEO's. The corporation behind the channel will not like this change or allow it. The channel will continue to employee people who kiss the asses of the corporations and their stocks. The only real solution is the whole channel being canceled.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Stewart tore that hack a new asshole. It's safe to say that Cramer will lose viewers as a result of this interview.

QFT! And compliments to Jon Stewart for being so charming about it. :beer: :thumbsup:

The beauty of it was, he did it with relatively polite grace, leaving Cramer very short of explanations and very long on apologies for his blatantly unethical comments on the video clips Stewart showed.

NOTE TO OTHERS: Calling out Jon Stewart is not smart.

Remind Bozack of that. He posted:

With that said Stewart is a douche, a stooge for the left and painfully annoying, I am glad I don't waste my time with watching his boorish show.

Second thought, never mind. You're right, but he wouldn't get it for obvious reasons. :laugh:

Originally posted by: ayabe

I actually think Cramer is worried he is going to be investigated for what he said in those clips.

I was thinking the same thing as I watched the show. Cramer looked a bit suprised and very worried as he watched them.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: dardin211
Here are direct links to the unedited interview:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

Jon does an excellent job saying what needs to be said. I find it pretty sad still that a comedy news show once again does a better job at being the media, then the media itself.

I wonder after seeing this if Cramer's show gets canceled by CNBC. Lets say Cramer actually takes to heart what Jon said and tries to change his show to be honest and go after the CEO's. The corporation behind the channel will not like this change or allow it. The channel will continue to employee people who kiss the asses of the corporations and their stocks. The only real solution is the whole channel being canceled.

If he's willing to do that he'll not be out of work long - someone would pick him up.
 

Miramonti

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Stewart complained the market is a game to many and that those with pension funds and 401k's in the market are at a disadvantage. I never heard him complaining when those same game players were putting money into the market taking it to alltime heights. Its hypocritical. Individuals with pension funds and 401k's are playing the game just like everyone else (with exception of illegal trading activity, which is a very small %.)
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Stewart complained the market is a game to many and that those with pension funds and 401k's in the market are at a disadvantage. I never heard him complaining when those same game players were putting money into the market taking it to alltime heights. Its hypocritical. Individuals with pension funds and 401k's are playing the game just like everyone else (with exception of illegal trading activity, which is a very small %.)

I think you missed his point.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: jjsole
Stewart complained the market is a game to many and that those with pension funds and 401k's in the market are at a disadvantage. I never heard him complaining when those same game players were putting money into the market taking it to alltime heights. Its hypocritical. Individuals with pension funds and 401k's are playing the game just like everyone else (with exception of illegal trading activity, which is a very small %.)

I think you missed his point.

No, I really didn't, he said emphatically the market "is not a fvcking game".

The market is a game to most who play it, that's a fact and it has been that way since the inception of stock exchanges. To reap the benefits while diss the pitfalls is hypocritical. The fact that cnbc makes money off the game and doesn't advertise all the right tricks to play the game is hardly irresponsible. There has always been a lot of shill games going on in the markets as well and that's hardly cnbc's fault for not exposing the big ones.
 
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