What does black ops have over MW2?

Maximilian

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Apart from new maps as thats a given and a different campaign as nobody really cares about that in CoD games anymore. What else is different?
 

zerogear

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I think if you remove maps and campaign (which is the only part of the game I play). The multiplayer aspect of it is pretty similar with a few added modes .
 

Regs

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The multiplayer is drastically different. Server browser, dedicated servers, easy to find friends, wager mode with 3 or 4 different sub modes like "Sticks and Stones" or "One bullet in the chamber". The only thing I don't like with Treyarch, is that the mess around with the animations too much and are in good need of a buffer for the lag penalty.

The single player IMO was awful. Playing in "back flashes" was a bad idea and the integration scenes in between were no better. You are spoon fed a story in what seems a endless barrage of babble to a point the character voices liquefy into a pile of barking dogs.
 
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Texashiker

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Black ops is newer.

When I try talking to my 16 year old son about playing different games, one of the first questions he ask "how old is the game?" In his opinion, if its more then 2 or 3 years old - then its an "old" game and does not deserve to be played.

I bought my son the ID software package in 2009 for Christmas. The majority of the games he will not install or even try to play because their "old games." When I try to tell my son about Quake 2, or Return to Castle Wolfenstein, he just says those games are "so old!!!!!!!!!"

With todays instant gratification generation, if its not brand new, then its old and not worth anything. Like the new apple ipod touch, even though my kids have an ipod, the ipod touch was new that they had to have it for christmas.

So even though MW2 might be just as good as Black Ops, its old.
 

Mike Gayner

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I haven't played the MP in either of them, but played both the campaigns. The MW2 campaign is vastly superior in every way. Neither campaign is worth the full price of the game.
 

Nintendesert

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Black ops is newer.

When I try talking to my 16 year old son about playing different games, one of the first questions he ask "how old is the game?" In his opinion, if its more then 2 or 3 years old - then its an "old" game and does not deserve to be played.

I bought my son the ID software package in 2009 for Christmas. The majority of the games he will not install or even try to play because their "old games." When I try to tell my son about Quake 2, or Return to Castle Wolfenstein, he just says those games are "so old!!!!!!!!!"

With todays instant gratification generation, if its not brand new, then its old and not worth anything. Like the new apple ipod touch, even though my kids have an ipod, the ipod touch was new that they had to have it for christmas.

So even though MW2 might be just as good as Black Ops, its old.




You need to beat your son for not appreciating the classics.
 

darkdiablo

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If you're tired of noob tube + scavenger or noob tube + one man army combo, then you'll love black ops. Almost 2 monthes of playing, I have gotten killed maybe 2 times by a noob tuber on BO.

MW2 is fun too, but black ops definitely wins. Treyarch definitely listened to the community on this one and fixed what was wrong and imbalanced with mw2.
 

Chaotic42

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The lack of ability to join as a group. My friends and I must be the only ones who liked that.
 

shurato

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Dedicated servers is a big one. I've never been disconnected or had lag issues like in MW2. You get to pick the server and at least have a choice of what map you want to play. The guns seem more balanced.

Single player is terrible. Multiplayer gets old like MW2. Prestiging should give you more than a custom slot to add to replay value. COD is a franchise like Madden. You add a few superficial tweaks each year and use the same tired engine and get the customers money. Sad but smart business practices.

They dont make FPS' like they used to. This is definitely for the ADD generation.

Quake 2....now that was a shooter....
 

digitaldurandal

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The ability to ban cheaters serverside. MW2 was a better game, until hackers overran it. I prefer the matchmaking system to be honest, that way I can play with my friends more easily. They should only have dedicated servers for scrims, rest should be matchmaking - but you need to be able to flag cheaters somehow.
 

Fenixgoon

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Black ops is newer.

When I try talking to my 16 year old son about playing different games, one of the first questions he ask "how old is the game?" In his opinion, if its more then 2 or 3 years old - then its an "old" game and does not deserve to be played.

I bought my son the ID software package in 2009 for Christmas. The majority of the games he will not install or even try to play because their "old games." When I try to tell my son about Quake 2, or Return to Castle Wolfenstein, he just says those games are "so old!!!!!!!!!"

With todays instant gratification generation, if its not brand new, then its old and not worth anything. Like the new apple ipod touch, even though my kids have an ipod, the ipod touch was new that they had to have it for christmas.

So even though MW2 might be just as good as Black Ops, its old.

part of the problem with "old" games is simply finding people to play with. unless it's a fairly popular game, online play will be fairly sparse after 2-3 years. now, that may not be the exact reason your son doesn't want to play old games (could be graphics, maybe he just wants the shiniest new thing) but it can be a valid one.
 

chalmers

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I wish I could find regular places that play Doom 2, Quake 2/3 etc online still. I'd play those games any day over this new stuff.
 

paperfist

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I wish I could find regular places that play Doom 2, Quake 2/3 etc online still. I'd play those games any day over this new stuff.

Me too, I'd kill for some regular dosing of Medal of Honor. Too bad server rentals weren't cheaper I'd be all over one for classic gaming.
 

Ackmed

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Yeha, I had tons of fun playing Q2 and JK. I would love to find servers with regular Q2 games. You could play that on a calculator now days its so old, but it sure was fun.
 

Shack70

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Nobody mentioned that Black Ops is being supported by the developer while MW2 is only adding maps to make more money. It may be the best support so far, but anything is better than nothing!
 

nitromullet

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part of the problem with "old" games is simply finding people to play with. unless it's a fairly popular game, online play will be fairly sparse after 2-3 years. now, that may not be the exact reason your son doesn't want to play old games (could be graphics, maybe he just wants the shiniest new thing) but it can be a valid one.

Yeah, this is true, but not an issue with MW2. I played MW2 last year on 360, sold it a month later, and just picked it up for the PC on Steam last weekend. I had no problems finding a match. There are still a lot of people playing MW2 it seems.

COD is a franchise like Madden. You add a few superficial tweaks each year and use the same tired engine and get the customers money. Sad but smart business practices.

This is true too, but I generally don't feel ripped off. The COD series games do always turn out to be fun IMO. Sure, SP isn't exactly deep, but it's still a good action game and fun for a few hours. MP has a lot of players, so it's easy to join a quick match. Overall, it's usually worth the money spent.
 
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Texashiker

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You need to beat your son for not appreciating the classics.

He is 16 years old, and 2 inches taller then I am, and still growing.

While he is back at his moms (my ex-wife), I am going to install quake and quake 2 on his computer. I also got my daughter the ID Quake package - so all three of us are going to get some good ole deathmatches going on.

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As for black ops - its also laggy in multiplayer. When I watch my son play, his frames per second drop to what seems like 20 fps.

So what does black ops have? A lot of bugs.
 
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