What ever happened to the OCZ Cryo-Z?

[GuitarDaddy]

They announced it at CEBIT back in february and hinted it would be out late April early May. It's now almost August

 

[Elfear]

I've been wondering the same thing. I know they had problems with one of the part suppliers but I'd think they'd have had it figured out by now. Where is our budget phase-change???

 

[Howard]

Vaporware (pardon the pun)

 

[jonnyGURU]

Correct me if I'm wrong....

well...

Anyone here familiar with the Westfalia camper-van and the fridge that uses compressed ammonia to cool?

 

[tw33ter]

They were unable to find a way to ship it without it getting destroyed in the process.

 

[Corporate Thug]

it was scrapped was it not?

 

[ryderOCZ]

It is not scrapped, more info, I do not have.

 

[pissclams]

I emailed their marketing dept about 2.5 months ago asking for any marketing collateral they might have or product info, they never responded. :|

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: Howard
Vaporware (pardon the pun)

Bwahaha! You mean cliche, don't you?

You're bad... :laugh:

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
Correct me if I'm wrong....

Anyone here familiar with the Westfalia camper-van and the fridge that uses compressed ammonia to cool?

I *think* ammonia coolers work via boiling of the ammonia, not compressimg it, e,g there is NO compressor involved. That's the whole idea of sticking them in a 'camper-van' and so forth. All it needs is a (propane) flame to work, not electricity -- although you CAN use an electric heating strip to boil the ammonia, as an option, in some units ...

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: VinDSL

Originally posted by: Howard
Vaporware (pardon the pun)

Bwahaha! You mean cliche, don't you?

You're bad... :laugh:

Nah, phase change involves the use of vapor.

 

[soydios]

PM SteveOCZ

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: soydios
PM SteveOCZ

RyderOCZ already replied in this thread and had no info

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: Howard
Nah, phase change involves the use of vapor.

True, but as you (correctly) pointed out, recently, puns require homonymy... So, while vaderware, vaporwear, and other similar play-on-words would work, vaporware is a cliche, i.e. a trite or overused expression or idea...

Heh! Sorry for going OT! Carry on...

 

[VinDSL]

I know this thread concerns OCZ Cryo-Z being MIA, but I'm wondering about phase-changing in general. It's an old idea, but is there any promise in it?

I've been thinking about liquid cooling my Mountain Mods Opti-1203 hybrid. The ports are pre-drilled for the Thermochill HE 120.3 radiator. Get it?

Mountain Mods U2-UFO Opti-1203 = U2-UFO case ( optimized ) + Thermochill 120.3 radiator

Anyway, that would be the easiest way to go -- but maybe I should go pelt instead...

What's the 'hot' setup these days?

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: VinDSL

Originally posted by: Howard
Nah, phase change involves the use of vapor.

True, but as you (correctly) pointed out, recently, puns require homonymy

Not necessarily.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pun

A pun (also known as paronomasia) is a figure of speech which consists of a deliberate confusion of similar words or phrases for rhetorical effect, whether humorous or serious. A pun can rely on the assumed equivalency of multiple similar words (homonymy), of different shades of meaning of one word (polysemy), or of a literal meaning with a metaphor.

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: Howard
Not necessarily...

If you'll pardon the pun... Cool!

Let's stick with "Not necessarily" for now. Seems like a good fallback position for both of us...

So, what's the status of phase-changing these days? I think it would be a LOT easier for me to go with water works!

For instance: Look at the purdy pictures...

It's basically a bolt-in option!

 

[jonnyGURU]

This is what I use in my Intel rig: http://www.casetek.com.tw/cpu_cooler/ma-7131i.htm

It's the 2nd gen of the original MACS from last year, which didn't cool very well for the money... not compared to water cooling.

The new one uses a heatpipe AND a TEC.

The cold side cools the CPU and is attached to a heatpipe that cools the sinks right in front of the fan. The hot side has heatpipes that pull heat up to another set of sinks. The fan blows across the cool sinks and onto the hot sinks. The cycle starts all over again.

So it really does cool twice as good as before. Unfortunately, it's STILL expensive.

 

[Praxis1452]

so an air cooled tec? wtf don't people learn from the COOLIT freezone... and the specs say 50W on 100% load or something... that's the most it can dissipate? doesn't even say the wattage of the tec...

 

[Ayah]

Could always try asking chilly1. (xtremesystemsforums)
I believe they're using his head on that unit. don't know how much more he's involved though

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
so an air cooled tec? wtf don't people learn from the COOLIT freezone... and the specs say 50W on 100% load or something... that's the most it can dissipate? doesn't even say the wattage of the tec...

I think people have learned from the CoolIt Freezone. The block for the Freezone can only dissipate so much heat. Heatpipes removing the heat from the block would've made it work better.

And it does say 12V @ 5A. That's probably maximum.

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
wtf don't people learn from the COOLIT freezone...

They make a GREAT beer cooler too! :laugh:

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
so an air cooled tec? wtf don't people learn from the COOLIT freezone... and the specs say 50W on 100% load or something... that's the most it can dissipate? doesn't even say the wattage of the tec...

I think people have learned from the CoolIt Freezone. The block for the Freezone can only dissipate so much heat. Heatpipes removing the heat from the block would've made it work better.

And it does say 12V @ 5A. That's probably maximum.

how well does it actually cool? I think the COOLIT freezone used a radiator for the got side? idk... heatpipes might work better but the effectiveness is questionable especially after you factor in price... a review site was like 80 euros... yea lol

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
so an air cooled tec? wtf don't people learn from the COOLIT freezone... and the specs say 50W on 100% load or something... that's the most it can dissipate? doesn't even say the wattage of the tec...

I think people have learned from the CoolIt Freezone. The block for the Freezone can only dissipate so much heat. Heatpipes removing the heat from the block would've made it work better.

And it does say 12V @ 5A. That's probably maximum.

how well does it actually cool? I think the COOLIT freezone used a radiator for the got side? idk... heatpipes might work better but the effectiveness is questionable especially after you factor in price... a review site was like 80 euros... yea lol

The disply that comes with it says it's only 31C. Highest I've ever seen it was 42C.

Yes... the CoolIt Freezone uses a radiator, but the TEC is on the radiator, not the heatblock. So the heatblock is still going to heat up, heat up the water and then the water gets cooled by the TEC.

IMHO, the best way to use a TEC would be to cool the block. I think they should've used the TEC to cool the block and have the water carry away the heat from the hot side of the TEC. Then let an aircooled radiator cool the water back down.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: Praxis1452

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
so an air cooled tec? wtf don't people learn from the COOLIT freezone... and the specs say 50W on 100% load or something... that's the most it can dissipate? doesn't even say the wattage of the tec...

I think people have learned from the CoolIt Freezone. The block for the Freezone can only dissipate so much heat. Heatpipes removing the heat from the block would've made it work better.

And it does say 12V @ 5A. That's probably maximum.

how well does it actually cool? I think the COOLIT freezone used a radiator for the got side? idk... heatpipes might work better but the effectiveness is questionable especially after you factor in price... a review site was like 80 euros... yea lol

The disply that comes with it says it's only 31C. Highest I've ever seen it was 42C.

Yes... the CoolIt Freezone uses a radiator, but the TEC is on the radiator, not the heatblock. So the heatblock is still going to heat up, heat up the water and then the water gets cooled by the TEC.

IMHO, the best way to use a TEC would be to cool the block. I think they should've used the TEC to cool the block and have the water carry away the heat from the hot side of the TEC. Then let an aircooled radiator cool the water back down.

so basically do a regular tec using water cooled setup. Put the TEC on the cpu and cool the hot side.. :laugh:

Well this might work but it seems to me that it will only work with very low heat producing processors thereby you might just get better temps with some good air cooling... like the scythe ninja for a 50W cpu.. Maybe I'm wrong?