What FRYED this MSI motherboard?

[omniviper]

was that a 9800 pro extra crisped? damm... i have an msi board so... crap better be on the lookout

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

How the hell do you put a usb header on backwards? Theres one missing pin. On all the connectors I've seen the missing pin was blocked off you couldn't put the thing on backwards without bending a pin.

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
How the hell do you put a usb header on backwards? Theres one missing pin. On all the connectors I've seen the missing pin was blocked off you couldn't put the thing on backwards without bending a pin.

On my case, I have to manually plug in each wire, all ~12 of them. But with his case ,it probably came with them all bunched together like you said.

Did he mention if he had a card in that bottom slot?

 

[jdogg707]

Well, here's my quick, "MSI Sucks the big one" comment. At least there technical support seemed extremely helpful...:roll:

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
How the hell do you put a usb header on backwards? Theres one missing pin. On all the connectors I've seen the missing pin was blocked off you couldn't put the thing on backwards without bending a pin.

Not all are wired the same. And not all are keyed either.

 

[Schnook121]

Originally posted by: boomerang
Looks like the work of al-Qaida. Blame it on Bush!

roflmao

 

[Brickster]

Originally posted by: soulflyfan
the MSI K8n neo2 "yoga-fire!" edition?

Yeah, if it ever comes available...

And if it does...will it come with a fire extinguisher?

 

[Farvacola]

My god! My only thought is that it must have been a massive error to make such a terrible thing happen. Most current hardware comes with safety precautions, he must have used old parts, and to be quite frank, that is really stupid.

 

[glugglug]

It is a PresHOT board.

 

[CaptnKirk]

The Spirit of Pele

 

[islandtechengineers]

haha that looks beautiful. I'm known for killing things and snapping tools like its nothing (have you ever broke a breake bar with your hands while trying to crack a nut loose? = hehehe) I've never been bale to accomplish scorching a mobo. does the manufacture at least want the setup back for examination on how it happened?

 

[iamskew]

that's an english (England) site...any chance the guy just forgot to set the power to the correct voltage? It was probably set up for 120v and he plugged in 210v or whatever they use there...

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Dennis Travis
That is even worse than some of the Mishaps on Johnny Guru's site!!

That's spelled jonnyGURU.

 

[gamekid]

the guy probably shoved his ass somewhere it shouldnt have been and it happened to slap him right back on his ass, opps i ment face, oh whats the difference, they look the same

 

[newParadigm]

I is in awe that this thread is still rollin'

 

[DrCool]

Originally posted by: Chucu
Well I hate to be the bringer of bad news but. Judging by the pictures provided it would appear that one of 2 things happened.<BR>1: A screw of some variety got caught under the motherboard at the bottem of the case, shorting something out, heating up and inturn melting and lighting your stuff on fire.(it would appear the case is very dirty and probably the starting fuel was dust in the bottem of the case)<BR>2: you put the USB cable on backwards. For many years I worked at a custom shop and used MSI boards and have personally put a USB cable on backwards and it did infact cause a short, pop, heat, and a small flame when the computer was turned on. Never did that again. It would appear to be what happened here as well and inturn lighting the dust on fire and catching the board/cards on fire.<BR><BR>But again judging by the pictures I really don't think it was a hardware fault. Chaulk one up to experience.<BR><BR>chucu

looks like you were right on, MSI sent him a letter saying thier investigation led to the same conclusion.

http://forums.overclockers.co....ge=30&amp;pagenumber=6

Just received a parcel, plus letter from MSI UK.

They have now decided that the USB was incorrectly connected, despite the fact that you can only connect it one way, due to the 10th pin being blanked off

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

I know exactly what caused the problem! The Intel processor caused it! We all know that Intel processors are more unstable than AMD ones! Wait ... I mean the opposite .... Uhhmmmm. Never mind.

SARCASM about other thread about AMD processors being unstable and destroying systems

 

[thermalpaste]

Originally posted by: Twista
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THIS BOARD WAS BURNT ON PURPOSE USING A CANDLE OR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT COMPLETELY COMBUSTIBLE. heres the explanation: See the carbon marks all around the board? Now generally when ICs, RAM, chips burn, they leave a black residue adjacent to the area where they get burnt, but this black mark is evenly spread all around. If you would have burnt the board using something like LPG gas, which is completely combustible, then there wouldn't have been the black carbon residue at all.

 

[thermalpaste]

The carbon deposits on the mobo don't start at one point and scatter around, they are in one direction, going from the bottom, towards the top. So I presume he held a candle below at the bottom. Changing voltage to a 110 volts on the PSU burns off the power regulator ICs on the motherboard if you supply it with 240 volts. Besides why would the bottom of the motherboard get burnt out? We can assume that there is a 3.3 volt supply and a 5 volt supply for the last PCI slot. EVEN IF THE PINS ARE SHORTED, the PSU switches off automatically. And besides 3.3volts and 5 volts are not sufficient enough to burn the motherboard in such a way. The copper circuits on the motherboard are so thin, that even if you supply 5 amps of current @ 5 volts, they vanish and melt in thin air. THey do not generate that much heat to melt the motherboard.

 

[Dennis Travis]

quote:
Originally posted by: Dennis Travis
That is even worse than some of the Mishaps on Johnny Guru's site!!



That's spelled jonnyGURU.



OPPS! Put an H in there and forgot to do GURU in all caps!.

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: thermalpaste
The carbon deposits on the mobo don't start at one point and scatter around, they are in one direction, going from the bottom, towards the top. So I presume he held a candle below at the bottom. Changing voltage to a 110 volts on the PSU burns off the power regulator ICs on the motherboard if you supply it with 240 volts. Besides why would the bottom of the motherboard get burnt out? We can assume that there is a 3.3 volt supply and a 5 volt supply for the last PCI slot. EVEN IF THE PINS ARE SHORTED, the PSU switches off automatically. And besides 3.3volts and 5 volts are not sufficient enough to burn the motherboard in such a way. The copper circuits on the motherboard are so thin, that even if you supply 5 amps of current @ 5 volts, they vanish and melt in thin air. THey do not generate that much heat to melt the motherboard.

You're joking right? Plastic burns. I've been witness to many boards catching fire. And yes... MSI USB ports catch fire when the 5V and GND are reversed.

 

[thermalpaste]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: thermalpaste
The carbon deposits on the mobo don't start at one point and scatter around, they are in one direction, going from the bottom, towards the top. So I presume he held a candle below at the bottom. Changing voltage to a 110 volts on the PSU burns off the power regulator ICs on the motherboard if you supply it with 240 volts. Besides why would the bottom of the motherboard get burnt out? We can assume that there is a 3.3 volt supply and a 5 volt supply for the last PCI slot. EVEN IF THE PINS ARE SHORTED, the PSU switches off automatically. And besides 3.3volts and 5 volts are not sufficient enough to burn the motherboard in such a way. The copper circuits on the motherboard are so thin, that even if you supply 5 amps of current @ 5 volts, they vanish and melt in thin air. THey do not generate that much heat to melt the motherboard.

You're joking right? Plastic burns. I've been witness to many boards catching fire. And yes... MSI USB ports catch fire when the 5V and GND are reversed.

Im not joking. Plastic does burn.Plastic does give out a blackish carbon deposit if burnt.... Just observe the motherboard carefully. I didn't know USB port would catch fire. I had volt modded my asus A7N8X delux, and
the power regulator ICs went in flames, so did a host of other ICs etc, etc. THe PSU switched off automatically
and I had a fried athlon 1800+ with a brittle core, the northbridge had burnt itself, but the motherboard never went up in flames.

I had an old AMD k-6 motherboard using the Ali chipset and I was fu(k|ng pissed off with it so I held a candle at the bottom and let it burn. And the pictures shown in the link are shockingly similiar to my ALi motherboard when it was torched down by me because it was a slouch. Give me a weeks time and I will have those motherboard pictures posted on my blog.

 

[jonnyGURU]

Haha... Ok. I would torch an ALi based motherboard too if I had one to torch.

Most motherboards DO NOT burn up when there's a short at the USB. I think it comes down to the curcuitry of the board. In your case, you're probably looking at a board that gets the 5V straight from the power supply, which I think is a great idea. My guess is that MSI, and some others, run their 5V through some curcuitry that may not have any curcuit protection. Then again, if the power supply doesn't crobar if there's a short, I can see the same sort of problem happening. I never used anything cheaper than an Allied power supply, so I don't know for sure.

 

[thermalpaste]

I never tried shorting the USB port, shall try that on my old pentium-430vx motherboard + p-166 which is dedicated to SETI ......MWAHAHAHAHAHA