What FRYED this MSI motherboard?

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Delorian

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Originally posted by: Twista
I actually just ordered an "msi K7N2 Delta-L" reason why i came up on that website

That's the board I'm running, it seems to work just fine, buddy o mine's had one for a while now and his runs really cool at stock settings.
 

txxxx

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Originally posted by: Delorian
Originally posted by: Twista
I actually just ordered an "msi K7N2 Delta-L" reason why i came up on that website

That's the board I'm running, it seems to work just fine, buddy o mine's had one for a while now and his runs really cool at stock settings.

That's the little bastard that suddenly died on me ! Ran inspec too.
 

Aleksandar

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Msi is not that bad it is one of the best in my book
i think i got the same mobo looks the same
 

Anonemous

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Originally posted by: Aleksandar
Msi is not that bad it is one of the best in my book
i think i got the same mobo looks the same

hehe you going to leave it on 24/7 from now on?
 

txxxx

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Originally posted by: Aleksandar
Msi is not that bad it is one of the best in my book
i think i got the same mobo looks the same

[darth vader voice] Your time will come ...
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Zebo
In all fairness it looks to me like the fire started at the bottom of the board where he had ancient flopply cables dangling which prolly shorted accross some 12...or even a 12 and -12 giving 24... Who knows. But It definity does'nt look like it was'nt a cap that blew.

Just look at the pics how melted the bottom PCI slot is relative to others..meaning it burned longer..meaning fire orginated thereabouts all those pins are also located there to short.

Or possibly, only just the fire was hotter there, which could be true if some caps combusted.

I vote that possibly, a cap died, spilling conductive electrolyte out onto the board, in an area that cause the 12v (or any main voltage source, really) to short, thus just heating a section of the board up enough to cause a fire.

Is it any wonder that MSI was sued recently for intentionally using dodgy caps? gah. (And to think, there's two machines here running on MSI boards. My KT4V-L has been already thus far, but the 865PE Neo2 Platinum or whatever they call it has been flaky at times.)

Edit: I have to add a vote for the "loose screw theory" too. I had that happen once, except the screw somehow got into the PSU. Don't know how it happened, I'm usually quite careful about things like that. The fan grille cover was slightly extended outward from the back of the PSU, so a screw must have fallen from the top of the case, hit the fan grille on the way down, and bounced inside. Eventually it worked its way around inside until it connected some live part of the PSU to the chassis ground of the case, and just killed it. It was an older, pretty-solid, "KungsPao" ATX 235W supply. It didn't make a noise or cause a fire, just kinda died. (Well, it might have made a really brief "pop", but I didn't notice much.)
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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ARGH I just ordered a msi k8n neo plat ARGH. I wish I read this before putting out the order : ( and i made it a rush order too it's too late to cancel : (
 

txxxx

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REUTERS
MSI sued by company claiming motherboard flaws
Reuters, 06.01.04, 5:12 PM ET

LOS ANGELES, June 1 (Reuters) - Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. <2377.TW>, one of the world's top makers of computer motherboards, has been sued by a Vermont company seeking class-action status over claims that MSI's boards use a defective technology and are prone to fail.

The suit, filed in Los Angeles Superior Court last Thursday by Electronic Connection Services Corp., a hardware and software services company, claims that MSI has knowingly used capacitors, devices used to regulate the power supply to microchips, that can leak and cause motherboards to short-circuit.

A spokesman for MSI in Taiwan could not be immediately reached for comment.

In its lawsuit, Electronic Connection Services said that MSI has known for years that its capacitors were made with an improperly-formulated electrolyte solution and that they are prone to leak or even explode.

"The motherboards are of such a low quality and are so defective that MSI knows they consistently fail and that consumers may lose massive amounts of information, time and money upon the failure of each motherboard," the suit said.

The lawsuit cited industry magazines reporting as far back as late 2002 that manufacturers were having problems with motherboards from a number of companies that exhibited problems with leaky or exploding capacitors.

The suit, which seeks to cover any person or company in the United States who has made a wholesale or retail purchase of an MSI motherboard since 1999, seeks unspecified damages and restitution and other relief.

It was not immediately clear how large that proposed class would be. The attorney for Electronic Connection Services was not immediately available to comment.

This needs to be made into a sticky! :disgust:
 

CaptnCarnage

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I had a MSI 875 NEO FIS2R it ran very well for about 2 months then it died , Caps blew (nothing dramatic just some poped caps and dead board) RMAed it and recieved another . That one worked for 7-8 months before i sold it and bought a ASUS P4C800E-Deluxe. In all fairness the second MSI board worked fine and had every feature in the book (High CPU, AGP and VDIMM Voltage in BIOS aswell) it also looks sharp (compaired to the brown asus boards) but it didnt seem to OC very high i wasnt sure what was holding my system back but now that i have the asus board it seems the MSI mem controller was the limiting factor for 1:1 OCing.

Oh and i HATE the MSI TV tuner cards .. GARBAGE , but loved there live update feature
 

Shawn

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well that nic card is toast..... but I wonder if the video card still works. lol, probably not...
 

wetcat007

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Originally posted by: Chucu
Well I hate to be the bringer of bad news but. Judging by the pictures provided it would appear that one of 2 things happened.
1: A screw of some variety got caught under the motherboard at the bottem of the case, shorting something out, heating up and inturn melting and lighting your stuff on fire.(it would appear the case is very dirty and probably the starting fuel was dust in the bottem of the case)
2: you put the USB cable on backwards. For many years I worked at a custom shop and used MSI boards and have personally put a USB cable on backwards and it did infact cause a short, pop, heat, and a small flame when the computer was turned on. Never did that again. It would appear to be what happened here as well and inturn lighting the dust on fire and catching the board/cards on fire.

But again judging by the pictures I really don't think it was a hardware fault. Chaulk one up to experience.

chucu

It may have been something he did but most motherboards, dont just go up like that, i mean, they short out and shut off in my experience that's how it is anyways, that one just decided to start a fire?
 

woodscomp

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He clearly had the USB port on backwards, and that will cause all kinds of electrical problems as USB draws a current. With dust in the bottom corner I would assume it was the fuel needed, and the plastic kept it going.
 

Pandamonium

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Goddamn. I had a MSI GF2 Ti200 running stock for 1 year before I replaced the stock HSF with a fanless Zalman heatpipe heatsink. The card performs rock solid. This guy, on the other hand, is in his own little world as far as I'm concerned. =P
 

CidHighwind

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OHSN!! I just bought a MSI 9800Pro!

Meh. I'll surivive. Or sue the hell out of someone. Pick one!


Anyway, the fire does seem to look like it started at the USB port. Makes me wanna double check my USB connections, even though I have done so about 5 times...
 
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