What game console to buy?

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: homey297
i have been reading reviews and comments on this for about a week now
and i think i am going to buy a xbox
now i am checking prices is this good

xbox
2 controlers
dvd remote control
1 game (dont remember what it was)
189.99 at costco

This bundle?

Yeah, that's a good deal. MechAssault is a blast.

 

[Hankysmoo]

Gamecube is the way to go.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: kyparrish
xbox

 

[DeeKnow]

hmmm. no one recommed him an N64??

 

[gamer4life]

Originally posted by: DeeKnow
hmmm. no one recommed him an N64??

Goldeneye is what made me fall in love with first person shooters.

aaaaah the memories

 

[lrmat]

gamecube better graphics then x-box? sound about equal? get a better tv, my friend that b&w 13" isn't making it. ps2 & gamecube have more exclusives but there a enought 3rd party players with games for the x-box, x-box live cannot be touched by ps2 (or by the dillusional guy who thinks gamecube has better graphics and equal sound).

if you have a home theater system and a tv that is larger then 20" x-box is the way to go for presentation and versatility, you may lose out on some games but frankly, no matter whcih system you chose, will close the door on some game. besides madden is now on live.

 

[Appledrop]

all the current consoles SUCK majorly. PC ALL the way.

 

[Fella]

Xbox all the way!

 

[peter7921]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
If you want to buy now, i'd probably get Xbox. It has the best graphics, the best sound, controllers that are big enough for big hands. PS2 is good too. GC would be my last choice since I hate its controller and it doesn't have a lot of titles that stand out in terms of multiplayer. Someone disected the power and hardware of all the consoles. But lets be honest, what do you look for, the end product, being games - how they look, how they play, and how they sound. GC in this category has the worst graphics in my opinion. Xbox also has Ninja Gaiden, Halo and the sports games will be just as good as on PS2. I guess it's a toss up between Xbox and PS2.

If you read my post you would realize the xbox does not have the best graphics. The gamecube easily outperforms the video card in the xbox. And best sound?? I dont notice a sound difference between any of the 3 this gen consoles? That is more dependant on the software. I do agree that the xbox controllers are the best too, but again that is based on personal preferance.

So in the end it is based on what you want. Xbox is good but she may seem to like the titles on xbox or might like the PS2. Use the info all of us have provided to amke the best decision.

Hardware wise the gamecube outperforms both xbox and PS2, game wise you will have to decide yourself. While PS2 is the worst hardware wise it has a HUGE selection of games and I know whe will like some of them. Xbox is also getting some good games thet she MAY like. As for gamecube it does not have many games I like but your wife may like them so chevck them out.

You are completely wrong, there is no one (who isn't a fanboy) who would agree with you that Gamecube has better garphics than an Xbox.

Saying that the graphics of a Gamecube are pretty close to the Xboxes, but Graphicas are not the reason to buy a console in the first place, games are.

1. If you want Nintendo exclusives, like Metroid, Pikmin, Zelda, Mario etc.. then stop thinking and buy a Gamecube now. I have a Gamecube for this reason.

2. Xbox has the best online play, but you do have to pay for it. Most games that come out for the PS2 also come out on the Xbox. Some don't though like the Gran Tourismo series, tekken, RPG's from Square-Enix, and SCEA titles like Jaz etc.. Xbox also has it exlcusives though, like Halo 2, Ninja GAiden, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Fable and lots more.

If i was to buy one console, i would get the Xbox. I have an Xbox and Gamecube right now, and am getting a Playstation 2 next month.

 

[piroroadkill]

Originally posted by: Naustica
Dreamcast.

Oh hell yes

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
It is mostly based on personal prference. Gamecube has some games she might liek but some people may think they are a bit kiddish. Another downfall of the gamecube is the lack of feutures compared to lets say xbox. The gamecube is a very powerful machine though.

The GameCube uses a 450 MHz PowerPC processor from IBM. It's far more EFFICIENT-- per CPU Clock Tick (MHz) it does more work. It far outpeforms the XBox at calculations, math, game physics in every way-- The XBox uses a VERY SLOW Pentium III Coppermine CPU. The PowerPC also does not produce as much heat at all.

Its video chip is also much beefier than the GeForce 3 used in the XBox. The XBox really IS just a comprimised PC, running a hacked version of Windows and DirectX with some USB devices attached to it. Games are forced to run at Low settings because of the weak hardware. Had Microsoft custom-designed a machine with efficient hardware like the GameCube or Dreamcast it would peform a lot better, but they really do not seem to know what they are doing in the console world.

Comparing the PS2 and the GameCube/XBox, the PS2 has a pretty fast CPU-- but its video chip is very primitive and easily outperformed by even the weak GeForce 3 in some areas. My beef with that machine is the failure-prone drive mechanics, though, not the solid state hardware on the mainboard.

So the gamecube is a very fast and powerful machine much betetr then the PS2 and xbox, but you might want to see what games she might like for what systems. And what feutures she may use. She might not need to watch DVD's and I dont think she would play games online so gamecube might be fine if you think she will lie those games.

I would probally say go with a Gamecube but you might want to0 check out some other stuff before deciding.

No no no.

1. The gamecube is more efficient clock for clock then the xbox cpu, but the xbox cpu is still over 30% faster then the gamecube one. The Gekko's efficiency is not enough to make up for it's nearly 200mhz difference. Look at numbers. Dont claim crap that you dont have a clue what your saying you gamecube fanboy. The xbox has more then twice the cpu power of ps2 as well, the ps2 cpu is somewhere between a p4 and a p3 clock for clock wise.

2. The gamecube uses a lousy video card that is only slightly better then the ps2's. The geforce 3 in the xbox has nearly TWICE the graphical power of the cube's so dont go saying stuff you dont know about. The cube RARELY uses bump mapping or Pixel shading and when it does, you get some terrible results framerate wise.

I am so tired of people saying stuff when they dont know what they are talking about.


I recomend either xbox or ps2. As said earlier, they both are great, but the xbox has a much larger online community, and much more online games. I recomend that if you want online games.

 

[Tom]

Based on what I've observed amongst friends and family, is the biggest mistake people make when buying one of the three consoles, is not doing enough research into what games they actually want to play.

Case in point, a family member bought a PS2, mostly because it is by far the most recognizable video game system to the general public, and then discovered that her grandkids greatly preferred playing some of the Gamecube games that they got to play on my Gamecube. So she ended up with a PS2 they never use and a Gamecube with 4 wavebirds !

btw, don't discount how much wavebirds add to the fun of console gaming, it's very cool not being tied to the system by a wire. There are 3rd party wireless controllers for the xbox and ps2, but I don't think any of them are as highly regarded as the wavebird.

But back to my point, it's really important to look at the library of games and pick which console you want based on that, not the other way around.

 

[Steg55]

Originally posted by: apoppin
But it'll BLOW -AWAY all current consoles . . .

At this time, sources said the Xbox 2 development kit includes a 9800XT card and platform and you can only achieve five to 10 FPS with Xbox 2 working titles.

That?s why a full developer's kit will be available in late Q1 2005. This kit will include the flagship R500 chip that will give the right measure of graphics performance.

From an aarchitectural point of view, we are talking about at least 16 pipelines powered by two TMUs (Texture Memory Units) which roughly give you twice as much power as the current X800 generation of cards that have only one TMU. This will occur only in multitexture games but nowadays all games use more then one texture per pass.

If Xbox games works at 60 FPS you can imagine that R500 will end up more then six times faster then Radeon 9800.

Er....yeh - they said this (or something very similar) about the N64, the PS2, the Gamecube, the XBox etc etc. "PS3 will be SO much more powerful than everything else!" "The new Nintendo will be SO much more powerful than anything else!" Its all rubbish

By the time any of the these concoles are released PC graphics will have surpased it by a million miles - just check out the Mark05 screenies. Concoles are limited to TV resolution anyway - which is lower than that of the average graphic calculator.

The message is simple - if you are serious about games get a PC. The benefits are endless and the only drawback is they are *slightly* more expensive. Concole games are a rip off anyway, for example when Max Payne 2 came out, I picked it up on PC in Game for £20. My friend got it the same day in the same shop for Xbox for £45. It madness.

Steg

 

[dguy6789]

XBOX 2 will be faster then any console, but not any pc.

It will have 3(yes 3) 3.5Ghz Dual core 64 bit cpus, 256MB of memory, no harddrive, and an r400 or 500 based gpu. These are subject to change, but as of now, these are the specs.

 

[piasabird]

If you are buying this for your wife I suggest you have your wife decide what kind of games she wants and then buy the console that is the best match.

I bought a PS2 for my Daughter because she liked things like Final Fantasy X. So she chose the PS2. It is one year old and still running strong. Kingdom Hearts is a bit wierd of a game to get use to. I didnt like it but my son and daughter both finished that game. They both enjoyed FFX even though it does seem a bit slow at times. FFX is an easy game to play and has a lot of different ways to play it depending on how you use the Sphere Grid and what celestial weapons you like.

 

[imported_jediknight]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
get a PS2.....they bringing them down sized PS2's out soon arent they? they shrank the internal volume of the PS2 by 75%!!!! its soo slim, its amazing how they have made the inner workings smaller yet with same performance

Did I miss something? What's the point of a smaller, but otherwise identical PS2? It's not like the original one was too big to fit on a TV or anything..

Of all the reasons to choose a particular console over another.. this is *not* a factor I'd use.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: too many people
This console is better because of (Insert crapload of worthless specs here)

I buy consoles to play games, not benchmark. Hence why I still have a Dreamcast and a library of several hundred games.

- M4H

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

SNES and XBand.

 

[CraigRT]

Xbox is your best option I think.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: too many people
This console is better because of (Insert crapload of worthless specs here)

I buy consoles to play games, not benchmark. Hence why I still have a Dreamcast and a library of several hundred games.- M4H

Here, here! (Same goes with those who cry that consoles suck compared to the PC.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: gamer4life

Originally posted by: DeeKnow
hmmm. no one recommed him an N64??

Goldeneye is what made me fall in love with first person shooters.

aaaaah the memories

ooh man ... tears are welling up in my eyes ...... i lovedddddd that game sooooooooo much i wanna cry

nothing beats a 4 player multiplayer match lol ...... remember the golden gun?

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Azzy64
all the current consoles SUCK majorly. PC ALL the way.

Yeah, you're right... Playing Burnout 3, Fable, NFL2k5, NHL2k5, Halo 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, X-Men Legends, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Forza Motorsports, Gran Turismo 4, DOA: Ultimate, MechAssault 2, Jak 3, Ratchet and Clank 3, etc majory SUCKS.

Not to mention that I can play them all from the comfort of my couch, in front of my RPTV, with the room filled with 5.1DD sound.

Oh yeah, and since I choose to NOT blindly limit my options, I can hunch over my desk and play the great PC games this fall too, if I so choose.

:roll:

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Azzy64
all the current consoles SUCK majorly. PC ALL the way.

Yeah, you're right... Playing Burnout 3, Fable, NFL2k5, NHL2k5, Halo 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, X-Men Legends, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Forza Motorsports, Gran Turismo 4, DOA: Ultimate, MechAssault 2, Jak 3, Ratchet and Clank 3, etc majory SUCKS.

Not to mention that I can play them all from the comfort of my couch, in front of my RPTV, with the room filled with 5.1DD sound.

Oh yeah, and since I choose to NOT blindly limit my options, I can hunch over my desk and play the great PC games this fall too, if I so choose.

:roll:

:beer:

- M4H

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Azzy64
all the current consoles SUCK majorly. PC ALL the way.

Yeah, you're right... Playing Burnout 3, Fable, NFL2k5, NHL2k5, Halo 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, X-Men Legends, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Forza Motorsports, Gran Turismo 4, DOA: Ultimate, MechAssault 2, Jak 3, Ratchet and Clank 3, etc majory SUCKS.

Not to mention that I can play them all from the comfort of my couch, in front of my RPTV, with the room filled with 5.1DD sound.

Oh yeah, and since I choose to NOT blindly limit my options, I can hunch over my desk and play the great PC games this fall too, if I so choose.

:roll:

your correct, there are many great games on consoles. But where the PC is the clear winner is online FPS's. In other categories its a toss up

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: raildogg
your correct, there are many great games on consoles. But where the PC is the clear winner is online FPS's. In other categories its a toss up

Yep, the vast majority of the time, PC's definitely do FPS games better. The only exception is when the game isn't available on the PC, like Halo 2. Or if the game on the console has an additional feature. For instance, Doom 3 on the Xbox will have a co-op mode. Even still, I have little doubt that the PC version is still superior. It's just that the co-op mode makes the Xbox version very interesting.

But I wouldn't say that the rest of the catagories are a toss up. Fighting, sports, racing, platform... These genres are definitely more enjoyable on the consoles.


I love to play games. I just don't understand the mentality one would have, where they choose to limit their options, and exclude themselves from some awesome gaming experiences.