What game console to buy?

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Azzy64
all the current consoles SUCK majorly. PC ALL the way.

Yeah, you're right... Playing Burnout 3, Fable, NFL2k5, NHL2k5, Halo 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, X-Men Legends, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Forza Motorsports, Gran Turismo 4, DOA: Ultimate, MechAssault 2, Jak 3, Ratchet and Clank 3, etc majory SUCKS.

That's like $600 in games and it's not there's much diversity between the myriad platformers and racing games.

Not to mention that I can play them all from the comfort of my couch, in front of my RPTV, with the room filled with 5.1DD sound.

So your girlfriend/wife doesn't mind you taking up the entire living room to play video games? Oh wait, you probably don't have one.....rock on then, bro.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
That's like $600 in games and it's not there's much diversity between the myriad platformers and racing games.

So your girlfriend/wife doesn't mind you taking up the entire living room to play video games? Oh wait, you probably don't have one.....rock on then, bro.

Why the hostility??? Did I say something to offend you? At any rate...

Yes, I have a wife and kids. A nice house, a very good career, etc. And yes, I do find time (in comprimise with my family, like any good husband/father would) to take over the family room and play games.

Since we're getting personal, doesn't your wife let the leash off far enough where you can do what you want?


Yes, that's a lot of games, and I could've listed several more. No, I'm not saying everyone should own every game. My point was that you have choices if you don't automatically reject a particular medium.

And if you think Burnout 3 and Forza Motorsports aren't (in comparison) very diverse games, I'm not sure what to say.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
That's like $600 in games and it's not there's much diversity between the myriad platformers and racing games.

So your girlfriend/wife doesn't mind you taking up the entire living room to play video games? Oh wait, you probably don't have one.....rock on then, bro.

Why the hostility??? Did I say something to offend you? At any rate...

Yes, I have a wife and kids. A nice house, a very good career, etc. And yes, I do find time (in comprimise with my family, like any good husband/father would) to take over the family room and play games.

Since we're getting personal, doesn't your wife let the leash off far enough where you can do what you want?


Yes, that's a lot of games, and I could've listed several more. No, I'm not saying everyone should own every game. My point was that you have choices if you don't automatically reject a particular medium.

And if you think Burnout 3 and Forza Motorsports aren't (in comparison) very diverse games, I'm not sure what to say.

You didn't list Super Bible Banger 3 on your example - someone had to step in.

- M4H

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

http://www.don't be so sensitive.com

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
http://www.don't be so sensitive.com

Practice what you preach, God-Boy.

- M4H

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
http://www.don't be so sensitive.com

Practice what you preach, God-Boy.

- M4H

Nef a little more, eh, Canada-Boy.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
http://www.don't be so sensitive.com

Practice what you preach, God-Boy.

- M4H

Nef a little more, eh, Canada-Boy.

You got it, Cletus.

- M4H

 

[wetcat007]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
It is mostly based on personal prference. Gamecube has some games she might liek but some people may think they are a bit kiddish. Another downfall of the gamecube is the lack of feutures compared to lets say xbox. The gamecube is a very powerful machine though.

The GameCube uses a 450 MHz PowerPC processor from IBM. It's far more EFFICIENT-- per CPU Clock Tick (MHz) it does more work. It far outpeforms the XBox at calculations, math, game physics in every way-- The XBox uses a VERY SLOW Pentium III Coppermine CPU. The PowerPC also does not produce as much heat at all.

Its video chip is also much beefier than the GeForce 3 used in the XBox. The XBox really IS just a comprimised PC, running a hacked version of Windows and DirectX with some USB devices attached to it. Games are forced to run at Low settings because of the weak hardware. Had Microsoft custom-designed a machine with efficient hardware like the GameCube or Dreamcast it would peform a lot better, but they really do not seem to know what they are doing in the console world.

Comparing the PS2 and the GameCube/XBox, the PS2 has a pretty fast CPU-- but its video chip is very primitive and easily outperformed by even the weak GeForce 3 in some areas. My beef with that machine is the failure-prone drive mechanics, though, not the solid state hardware on the mainboard.

So the gamecube is a very fast and powerful machine much betetr then the PS2 and xbox, but you might want to see what games she might like for what systems. And what feutures she may use. She might not need to watch DVD's and I dont think she would play games online so gamecube might be fine if you think she will lie those games.

I would probally say go with a Gamecube but you might want to0 check out some other stuff before deciding.

It's not a hacked version of windows, if microsoft did the modifications, it's not considered hacking lol.

 

[OMGoddess]

I have all three consoles, And you know what, the Cube is the LEAST played console in my house hold. Seriously, the games a fun, after you get sick of the sickening kiddie crap, and the short games, lack of games, and lack of good graphics. If you really believe that idiot about 50 posts up, go buy the cube. If you're unsure go rent both systems from your local block buster then rent both the cube, xbox, and copies of Splinter Cell: Pandora Tommorow for both of them. You'll understand your choice after this. The only reason I would think of pulling the cube out of the dust box again is for Zelda.

As for graphics on th cube being better then the Xbox, Those people have never touched Xbox games such as Riddick. Even Halo today has better graphics then most of the cube games. Also does anybody know why DOOM3 is coming out for Xbox only?

 

[bigal40]

hands down go with a PS2 the number of games availabale is much better than any other console.

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: bigal40
hands down go with a PS2 the number of games availabale is much better than any other console.

That's entirely true, if you want selection with decent OPTIMIZED performance go with the PS2, it has almost every game the xbox has, almost every game the cube has, and has LOTS of exclusive games, also it won't be cut short (like the cube) when it gets ported games from the xbox or PC.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
KoolDrew... Sorry man, but I really have to disagree. I'm not aware a single game that looks better on the Gamecube than it's Xbox variant.


This quote from IGN's review of Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow pretty much sums it up...

That noted, the GameCube version is not as pretty as its Xbox predecessor. This is evidenced in three key areas: filter effects, lighting and framerate. When Fisher uses night vision goggles, the GameCube build lacks the motion-filled blur of the Xbox; the same can be written of the thermal vision. Meanwhile, all sorts of environmental lighting effects, from the headlights of the oncoming train to the shimmering of fire, have been dumbed down in the GCN port. And finally, the framerate has suffered greatly. While the fluidity is usually acceptable, in some cases, the game's motion is downright choppy. Our complaints stated, this is still one of the prettier games to grace Nintendo's system, and in our opinion that's saying a lot.

If you own an Xbox, get the Xbox version of Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow because it is the all-around better game.

Here's a quote from Gamespot regarding Madden 2005...

Graphically, the three versions are pretty predictable in that the GameCube version looks a tad better than the PS2 version, and the Xbox version looks a bit better than the GameCube version. With the addition of online play in the Xbox version of the game--coupled with the slightly better graphics than its console counterparts--the Xbox offering is definitely the one to get...

As for sound... Yes, since the Xbox supports 5.1DD in pretty much every single game, it is much superior to ProLogic II.

Imho, the ONLY reason to get a Gamecube is if you really, really, really want to play its exclusive titles (Mario, Zelda, etc.)

I would have to disagree with you since. One game does not make a difference. That is siftware. Just because the software does not fully utilize the capabilities of the GC does not mean anytthing.

You are completely wrong, there is no one (who isn't a fanboy) who would agree with you that Gamecube has better garphics than an Xbox.

Saying that the graphics of a Gamecube are pretty close to the Xboxes, but Graphicas are not the reason to buy a console in the first place, games are.

1. If you want Nintendo exclusives, like Metroid, Pikmin, Zelda, Mario etc.. then stop thinking and buy a Gamecube now. I have a Gamecube for this reason.

2. Xbox has the best online play, but you do have to pay for it. Most games that come out for the PS2 also come out on the Xbox. Some don't though like the Gran Tourismo series, tekken, RPG's from Square-Enix, and SCEA titles like Jaz etc.. Xbox also has it exlcusives though, like Halo 2, Ninja GAiden, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Fable and lots more.

If i was to buy one console, i would get the Xbox. I have an Xbox and Gamecube right now, and am getting a Playstation 2 next month.

Look at the facts buddy. The gamecubes graphic card easily outperforms the geforce 3 inside the xbox. The CPU in it is also faster. I hate the GC because of the sucky games and lack of feutures but its hardware is much better. And I did not say that graphics are the rweason to buy a console. I specifically said in my post he should choose based on what games she would like......

No no no.

1. The gamecube is more efficient clock for clock then the xbox cpu, but the xbox cpu is still over 30% faster then the gamecube one. The Gekko's efficiency is not enough to make up for it's nearly 200mhz difference. Look at numbers. Dont claim crap that you dont have a clue what your saying you gamecube fanboy. The xbox has more then twice the cpu power of ps2 as well, the ps2 cpu is somewhere between a p4 and a p3 clock for clock wise.

2. The gamecube uses a lousy video card that is only slightly better then the ps2's. The geforce 3 in the xbox has nearly TWICE the graphical power of the cube's so dont go saying stuff you dont know about. The cube RARELY uses bump mapping or Pixel shading and when it does, you get some terrible results framerate wise.

I am so tired of people saying stuff when they dont know what they are talking about.


I recomend either xbox or ps2. As said earlier, they both are great, but the xbox has a much larger online community, and much more online games. I recomend that if you want online games.

I really hate people who dont know what there talking about...

1. Numbers dont mean shit. Liek I said in the first post. That is like saying an Intel processor is better then an AMD just because of the "numbers". And I am not in any way a gamecube fanboy. I hate the gamecube because of its lack of feutures and good games. I am just stating the facts. I dont even own a gamecube.. And the gamecubes video card easily outperforms both xcbox's and PS2.

Look at the facts before you start saying stuff you ahve no clue about...

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
I would have to disagree with you since. One game does not make a difference. That is siftware. Just because the software does not fully utilize the capabilities of the GC does not mean anytthing.

Actually, that was two examples.

Like I said, I've owned both (before I tired of the GC and sold it), and I can't think of one example of a game where the GC had better graphics than its Xbox counterpart.

Also, happen to have any links which document how superior the GC hardware is? I'd like to think I understand such things, and I just don't see how you can say the GC is so much more powerful.

 

[LifeStealer]

The new Resident Evil coming out will come out on the cube first. The graphics on it are JUST AMAZING. It shows what the cube can do, and that is alot. The best graphics I've seen on a console so far.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: LifeStealer
The new Resident Evil coming out will come out on the cube first. The graphics on it are JUST AMAZING. It shows what the cube can do, and that is alot. The best graphics I've seen on a console so far.

Yes... RE4 looks amazing... It's making me consider buying a GC again.

 

[ijester]

Thanks for everyone that provided info.

I think I have decided on the xbox simply for the versatility and online play options. A few bucks a month seems well worth it, and the games available are sufficient.

 

[clarkey01]

Iv gone from an Xbox to a PS2 and I couldn?t of been happier.

Originally I was a kind of Xbox fanboy, with the PS2 specs not quite being up to that off the xbox I was kind of anti PS2, kind of because of Nintendo struggling due to their market presence aswell, I didn?t like this new school gaint that was crushing the old boys, sega, Nintendo. Anyhow I got an Xbox and bought Project gotham Rcaing, Halo and marvel Vrs Capcom II and a few others, apart from PGR I hardly played the rest of the games and I got bored very quickly.

It also took the mickey when I had to spend £20 on remote so I can watch DVD?s on it. Nice one Billy gates. So I traded it in and got a ps2 with one game, GT3, and what a game ! I was frustrated at first but once I got the hang I feel madly in love with it, and I could play DVD?s rite away, in the 2 months I?v had it I;v built up these games :

GT3, GT4 Prologue, Pro Evo Scooer III , Burnout III, Wipeout Fusion. 007 Everything or nothing. Start Trek shattered universe ++ a few more.

I love it.

 

[ttown]

Dreamcast.

Get a "refurb"/used Dreamcast for ~$20, plus 15 games for $50, a few extra controllers and rumble-packs... <$100 total.

A few online games here

Use your PC's broadband connection

or set up your own Quake3 Arena server, or Phantasy Star Online server (too lazy to find link)

And if that's not enough, there's the whole homebrew scene

....and more!

edit: and if you just can't resist a 3.0 Ghz PC, with top of the line (soon to be obsolete) goodies for $2,500... you'll be pleased to know that it'll probably run this dreamcast emulator just fine. [but you'll have to figure out how to get those games burnt onto normal CD's ]

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
It also took the mickey when I had to spend £20 on remote so I can watch DVD?s on it. Nice one Billy gates.

I guess you could have the same complaint about the PS2 not including a memory card, hard drive, modem, multitap, etc...

But yeah, GT3 was an amazing game. I was very anxious to get GT4, until they announced they are dropping online play. Sorry... A racing game in 2004/5 w/out online play is simply unacceptable.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: clarkey01
It also took the mickey when I had to spend £20 on remote so I can watch DVD?s on it. Nice one Billy gates.

I guess you could have the same complaint about the PS2 not including a memory card, hard drive, modem, multitap, etc...

But yeah, GT3 was an amazing game. I was very anxious to get GT4, until they announced they are dropping online play. Sorry... A racing game in 2004/5 w/out online play is simply unacceptable.

I agree. I do not mind buying a DVD kit for 30 bucks when I am getting a better system. Even Sony said a while back that the Ps2 had problemks reading DVD's. They said that playing DVD's wrecked the Ps2 or something which is a bunch of BS. It is just a poorly built system.

And PS2 does not have a hard drive or anythingh and how much does that cost? What about all the other stuff you gotta buy that xbox does not have?

 

[Oyeve]

Buy a Gamecube, get all the Zelda games and Soul Caliber 2 (which BTW, is best on the GC, Ive played on all 3 systems and SC2 is better on the GC), Eternal Darkness, Spawn, Madden 2004, a couple of Resident Evil games and your all set. Xbox is just a big ugly POS PC. Or get a PS2 and cringe at the lousy graphics. I have a Game Cube and PS2 and find myself playing the Gamecube a helluva lot more than the PS2. Of course, I play more games on my PC than anything else.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: ttown
Dreamcast.

Get a "refurb"/used Dreamcast for ~$20, plus 15 games for $50, a few extra controllers and rumble-packs... <$100 total.

A few online games here

Use your PC's broadband connection

or set up your own Quake3 Arena server, or Phantasy Star Online server (too lazy to find link)

And if that's not enough, there's the whole homebrew scene

....and more!

edit: and if you just can't resist a 3.0 Ghz PC, with top of the line (soon to be obsolete) goodies for $2,500... you'll be pleased to know that it'll probably run this dreamcast emulator just fine. [but you'll have to figure out how to get those games burnt onto normal CD's ]

Hold on a second. There's a way to host your own PSO server? :Q

Please PM me all available information on this subject.

- M4H

 

[ttown]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: ttown
Dreamcast.

Get a "refurb"/used Dreamcast for ~$20, plus 15 games for $50, a few extra controllers and rumble-packs... <$100 total.

A few online games here

Use your PC's broadband connection

or set up your own Quake3 Arena server, or Phantasy Star Online server (too lazy to find link)

And if that's not enough, there's the whole homebrew scene

....and more!

edit: and if you just can't resist a 3.0 Ghz PC, with top of the line (soon to be obsolete) goodies for $2,500... you'll be pleased to know that it'll probably run this dreamcast emulator just fine. [but you'll have to figure out how to get those games burnt onto normal CD's ]

Hold on a second. There's a way to host your own PSO server? :Q

Please PM me all available information on this subject.

- M4H

PM'ing you this linky for a PSO server -- 36 players on one server as I write this.
Also, check out dreamcast.onlineconsoles.com forums for additional chat and organized games/servers.

spread the word.... dreamcast lives on

 

[clarkey01]

well the hard drive on the xbox is a great feature but I like to be able to plays DVD'S out the box then save games, sure memory card is just as important but the ps2 saves me having to buy a new DVD player or use the one in the living room.


Whats more powerfull, I know the xbox seems more but whats the performance difference between the emotion engine and the PIII/Celeron 733 in the xbox ?

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
well the hard drive on the xbox is a great feature but I like to be able to plays DVD'S out the box then save games, sure memory card is just as important but the ps2 saves me having to buy a new DVD player or use the one in the living room.

I guess my point is that the Xbox DVD kit is $30. One memory card (which is not even adequate if you own more than a couple games) for the PS2 is $25.

Seems to be a wash to me. (Well, not really... But you get my point. )


And yes, the Xbox is definitely more powerful than the PS2. Graphics, sound, loading times, the ability to save larger files (replays, etc.), the ability to use custom soundtracks... I could go on and on.