What happens the current administration when they are out of office...

Atari2600

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If it happens this election or next election (assuming Trump doesn't win and doesn't destroy the US constitution and impose a "rule-for-life")....

There will be a lot of people out of their current positions that are vulnerable to unobstructed investigations into their conduct and dealings in office.

You have to assume anyone working in and around the current administration is keeping meticulous records for the future.


Are there any laws prohibiting a former president spending the rest of their natural life in jail?
 

brycejones

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There is nothing keeping a former president from jail if they are convicted of crimes that carry that sanction. The presidential pardon power also only applies to federal crimes. He is still vulnerable to state charges even if pardoned at the federal level.
 

Atari2600

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So even if Trump "settled" for a year for each big misdemeanour, he'd still be utterly f**ked. Nice to know!
 

ch33zw1z

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State of NY should be ready on election day. I foresee Trump high tailing it if he loses, maybe before inauguration cuz he scurred.
 
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FaaR

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I hate to say it, but probably nothing.
Yup. Sad but true.

The Dems are nothing short of completely spineless, and would gladly bow out of prosecuting Dumpy's criminal regime in the name of "bipartisanship" (which is only one-sided of course, but who's counting, eh? lol)

They could have pursued Dumpy's tax returns during the impeachment and forced them to be produced, they did not. They could have sent out APBs for people subpoenad but who refused to show; they did not. They could have tried harder to make Dumpy himself testify. The Repuggers had Bill Clinton do it in the '90s, but of course they know Prez Roadkill-For-Hair is as senile as an old bat so they don't dare let him talk voluntarily. lol

How they react to the tax returns thing alone makes all the alarms go off. There's gotta be some highly compromising shit in there, because you know that if those papers were all clean and showing the message Dumpy himself preaches daily, that he is a wildly successful, super rich super smart businessman, then he would be parading them up and down every street every hour of the day with tooting horns and beating drums accompanying, because the mother likes to brag about himself more than basically anything else.
 

Homerboy

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I hate to say it, but probably nothing.

I'm not so sure. The NYAG has a serious axe to grind and it doesn't seem to be getting any less intent on grinding it. Trump and his cohorts are in for a pretty solid slap of reality once he's not protected by Barr et al. Now I don't think he's going to be lead out of the WH in cuffs, but he's going to be facing a huge legal battle
 

Greenman

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If it happens this election or next election (assuming Trump doesn't win and doesn't destroy the US constitution and impose a "rule-for-life")....

There will be a lot of people out of their current positions that are vulnerable to unobstructed investigations into their conduct and dealings in office.

You have to assume anyone working in and around the current administration is keeping meticulous records for the future.


Are there any laws prohibiting a former president spending the rest of their natural life in jail?
Leftest fantasy's.
Trump will leave office on the appointed day without fanfare. Though he will tweet something stupid. The New York AG may attempt to charge Trump with something, it will go nowhere. Trump will spend the rest of his life telling the world how his presidency was the greatest in American history.
 

pauldun170

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I'll challenge your "what if?" with what if, when these assholes are booted out that the next administration and congress are going to be more focused on getting actual work done

Endless investigations on people no longer in office is more a Republican hobby so they can feed their precious FoxNews with sound bites and headlines

I expect those currently in the executive branch are going off to hold rallies, appear on foxnews and form dickwad think tanks to write bullshit working papers to try and place as much power
 

Atari2600

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Leftest fantasy's.
Trump will leave office on the appointed day without fanfare. Though he will tweet something stupid. The New York AG may attempt to charge Trump with something, it will go nowhere. Trump will spend the rest of his life telling the world how his presidency was the greatest in American history.

Are you leftist when you have even just a modicum of moral fibre in your body?

Any right thinking person, regardless of their political allegiance, should be glad to see any wrongdoings by the current any administration clearly investigated without (i) interference from the sitting US attorney general and (ii) without the political circus that comes with impeachment of that sitting administration.
 

Greenman

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Are you leftist when you have even just a modicum of moral fibre in your body?

Any right thinking person, regardless of their political allegiance, should be glad to see any wrongdoings by the current any administration clearly investigated without (i) interference from the sitting US attorney general and (ii) without the political circus that comes with impeachment of that sitting administration.
That's all correct. But your OP is based on the assumption of guilt. You've decided Trump is guilty of something, not a jury.
 

Commodus

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That's all correct. But your OP is based on the assumption of guilt. You've decided Trump is guilty of something, not a jury.

Trump's long record of fraudulent behavior is fairly well-documented. Yes, by all means have a trial to determine if he's guilty of specific charges... but let's not pretend he isn't a serial crook who should've been sent to prison decades ago.
 
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zinfamous

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That's all correct. But your OP is based on the assumption of guilt. You've decided Trump is guilty of something, not a jury.

Uh, you do know that Trump is already recognized in one court as a felon, right? co-equal conspirator with Michael Cohen, who was sent off to jail for the very same crime.

So, yes, he is recognized as guilty "of something" already. This just an indisputable fact of this world.

BUT--I share the cynicism that the dems will largely "do nothing" at least at a federal level. However, I think NYAG is going to go hard at the Trump family. I think feds would be more than happy to focus on the work of cleaning out the Trump shit show from all government seats and restoring order to the country, all the while the state(s) get to work on prosecuting the Trump family. States can subpoena all they want, all the feds have to do is hand over all the requested documents and not get in the way.

Sounds like a win-win: Feds get back to purging and fixing this country from the stain; states focus on justice and only requiring some passive assistance from the feds.
 

Jhhnn

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Yup. Sad but true.

The Dems are nothing short of completely spineless, and would gladly bow out of prosecuting Dumpy's criminal regime in the name of "bipartisanship" (which is only one-sided of course, but who's counting, eh? lol)

They could have pursued Dumpy's tax returns during the impeachment and forced them to be produced, they did not. They could have sent out APBs for people subpoenad but who refused to show; they did not. They could have tried harder to make Dumpy himself testify. The Repuggers had Bill Clinton do it in the '90s, but of course they know Prez Roadkill-For-Hair is as senile as an old bat so they don't dare let him talk voluntarily. lol

How they react to the tax returns thing alone makes all the alarms go off. There's gotta be some highly compromising shit in there, because you know that if those papers were all clean and showing the message Dumpy himself preaches daily, that he is a wildly successful, super rich super smart businessman, then he would be parading them up and down every street every hour of the day with tooting horns and beating drums accompanying, because the mother likes to brag about himself more than basically anything else.

That's ridiculous victim blaming. Efforts to obtain documents from Trump & the admin proceed at the speed of the judiciary. Several matters await judgement by the SCOTUS.
 

MtnMan

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I hope he has a good data plan for his phone as after he is out of office, he can tweet 16 hours a day vs. the current 14 hours a day.
 

fskimospy

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Uh, you do know that Trump is already recognized in one court as a felon, right? co-equal conspirator with Michael Cohen, who was sent off to jail for the very same crime.

So, yes, he is recognized as guilty "of something" already. This just an indisputable fact of this world.

BUT--I share the cynicism that the dems will largely "do nothing" at least at a federal level. However, I think NYAG is going to go hard at the Trump family. I think feds would be more than happy to focus on the work of cleaning out the Trump shit show from all government seats and restoring order to the country, all the while the state(s) get to work on prosecuting the Trump family. States can subpoena all they want, all the feds have to do is hand over all the requested documents and not get in the way.

Sounds like a win-win: Feds get back to purging and fixing this country from the stain; states focus on justice and only requiring some passive assistance from the feds.
Well technically Trump is just named by the federal government in official court documents as an unindicted co-conspirator to a felony his personal lawyer is currently serving time for. He hasn’t been convicted himself.

But that’s the two-step conservatives always do, they say they can’t say if Trump is guilty or not because a jury hasn’t convicted him, ignoring the fact that Trump himself is the one standing in the way of his case going before a jury. Totally circular reasoning.
 

trenchfoot

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But what of those supporters of Trump whose very sanity they sacrificed at the alter of the Moron-in-Chief? What are they to do when their Idol ceases to be their Craved One and becomes the Craven One in the history books?

Will they mourn? I really doubt that. Will they bear arms and revolt against the powers that dethroned their King? Meh, maybe a couple or those few that bit really hard on the bullshit Trump was instigating them with.

Like the racists that came out of the woodwork and out from the shadows and out from under the rocks the hid biding their time waiting for a guy precisely like Trump to once more raise their banners of hate and fear like the heady days of yore when women and black folks weren't allowed to vote, his loyal throngs will slither back into the new and improved swamp Trump created for them to wallow and luxuriate in, awaiting for the ascendance of Trump v. 2.0

They will always be with us in one iteration or another. We just need to keep them pent up in that swamp Trump said he was going to drain.

The Wall? What wall? lol
 

Moonbeam

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What happens to any Mob Boss who knows things and can't intimidate except via that knowledge?
 

Jhhnn

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Well technically Trump is just named by the federal government in official court documents as an unindicted co-conspirator to a felony his personal lawyer is currently serving time for. He hasn’t been convicted himself.

But that’s the two-step conservatives always do, they say they can’t say if Trump is guilty or not because a jury hasn’t convicted him, ignoring the fact that Trump himself is the one standing in the way of his case going before a jury. Totally circular reasoning.

Were Trump not President, he would already have been tried & likely convicted.
 

BoomerD

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