What happens to professionals after they leave prison?

steppinthrax

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So I know a professional who owned two homes, husband had a business. Both of them apparently were involved in some fraudulent business activities. FBI nabbed them, they are going to do 4 years in federal prison in a few months.

Question is, when they get out from prison. What types of work would they even be able to do??? I imaging bagging groceries. Could they even be able to return back to the same social status they were before?
 

Sonikku

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The trick is to be rich so you don't end up in prison with an ex con status in the first place.
 

purbeast0

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Mike Vick went from the NFL to being about as low as you can being locked up for years in a maximum security prison, then back to the NFL. Now granted the crime he did was unrelated to the profession he was in, so that may be a bit different. But I'd imagine if they are good enough at what they do they will be able to find work in their fields.
 
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MrSquished

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I highly doubt they can work in any financial industries after that. Even to just be a real estate agent your record has to be clear of any financial-related misdoings. I had a full on background check to become one.
 

manly

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I highly doubt they can work in any financial industries after that. Even to just be a real estate agent your record has to be clear of any financial-related misdoings. I had a full on background check to become one.
You just ruined my "they go work on Wall Street" retort.

How about they'll go work for the Trump Org?
 

MrSquished

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lxskllr

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I think a lot of white collar crimes are viewed with sympathy by their former colleagues. They did the same shit, but didn't get caught. They can leverage those connections to start a new career, even if they can't go into the same field due to regulatory issues.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Prisons are in the business of creating criminals. In addition to the mindset that got them there in the first place, at a minimum they are pathological liars and kleptos when they get out.
 

ponyo

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Milken

Michael Milken received lifetime ban from the securities industry. But this didn't stop him from having very successful career outside of the securities industry once he got out of prison. If you were smart enough to succeed the first time, you're smart enough to do it again.
 
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The trick is to become self employed. You own your own business, you don't have to fire yourself, and you don't have to disclose your past to your potential clients.
 

steppinthrax

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The trick is to become self employed. You own your own business, you don't have to fire yourself, and you don't have to disclose your past to your potential clients.
That's what I'm thinking is the only way. Leads me to believe how many criminal business owners there are.

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That's what I'm thinking is the only way. Leads me to believe how many criminal business owners there are.

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My dealings with small business owners, contractors, and local chambers of commerce, has led me to believe that all business owners are criminals; only some of them have been caught.
 
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steppinthrax

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My dealings with small business owners, contractors, and local chambers of commerce, has led me to believe that all business owners are criminals; only some of them have been caught.
Interesting, I'm a small business owner. At least I've been starting up and trying to build my business. Many people that know me well said I tend to have a criminal mind. I make a pretty high salary, but I want even more and I don't want a boss.

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SearchMaster

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The trick is to become self employed. You own your own business, you don't have to fire yourself, and you don't have to disclose your past to your potential clients.
True but a criminal record makes it more difficult to get bank financing to get your business started and can prevent some deals from happening after a background check.
 

Red Squirrel

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The trick is to become self employed. You own your own business, you don't have to fire yourself, and you don't have to disclose your past to your potential clients.

Yeah that's probably really the only way. I've never applied at a job that didn't require a criminal record check.

I would not be surprised if lot of people just return back to crime because they don't know what else to do with their life. Even starting a business is going to be hard since you still need a place to stay, food, and bills to pay once you get out, but yet you're starting from scratch with $0.

So you basically come out, become homeless, then have to try to start a new life from there, from scratch. Well some family might help and such.
 
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