What if BD turns out to be FASTER than 2600K?

[VirtualLarry]

Will all of the die-hard Intel fanbois consider switching to the industry's first native consumer 8-core chip?

Will people stand up and applaud AMD for pulling off what some had deemed "impossible" - beating Intel in R&D, with far less R&D budget?

Or is this just a nice dream of mine?

 

[gevorg]

Single-threaded? Extremely unlikely.

Multi-threaded? Very likely.

 

[reb0rn]

maybe faster in few multitreaded aplications, but 100% slower in 90% of desktop use..

 

[grkM3]

I think most would switch but only if it were over 15-20% faster in everything.

Most intel people have already invested in sandy will hold off untill 1155 ivys come out.

That's why amd should leak out some performance numbers.I paid 370 just for my mb and even if bd is faster I would just wait for an ivy to throw in it.

Now if I knew bd was 15-20% faster I wouldn't of bought the 2600k

 

[blackened23]

Will all of the die-hard Intel fanbois consider switching to the industry's first native consumer 8-core chip?

Will people stand up and applaud AMD for pulling off what some had deemed "impossible" - beating Intel in R&D, with far less R&D budget?

Or is this just a nice dream of mine?

What if its faster than 2600k but doesn't have the overclocking head room?

What if it runs hotter than Lynnfield on steroids?

What if the earth wasn't round.

 

[greenhawk]

Will all of the die-hard Intel fanbois consider switching to the industry's first native consumer 8-core chip?

some people are still undecided if the setup of the cpu in it's floating point design still makes it a "true native" cpu if they have to team up to do some tasks. No mater who needs that task in the consumer market.

the fence sitters are waiting for bentch marks.

Or is this just a nice dream of mine?

+1

 

[lau808]

i dont think many if any at all would switch cause they could jus get the ivy bridge version of 26k. it would have to blow sb out of the water to still hold against ivy which means up n up or better ipc vs sb which is prolly unlikely. i do think it will be at least on par vs sb multi threaded tho

 

[Arg Clin]

They did it with the K7, so I do not see why not.

I don't think most people care about the brand, they just want what's fastest or best price/performance ratio.

There was a time when AMDs platforms were plagued by unpolished chipsets, but that's fortunately not the case anymore.

 

[MentalIlness]

Will all of the die-hard Intel fanbois consider switching to the industry's first native consumer 8-core chip?

No, the fanbois will then manufacture other excuses to keep AMD from being viewed in a positive light.

Will people stand up and applaud AMD for pulling off what some had deemed "impossible" - beating Intel in R&D, with far less R&D budget?

No, the fanbois will then manufacture other excuses to keep AMD from being viewed in a positive light.

Or is this just a nice dream of mine?

We all can dream. But if Bulldozer is faster, only "enthusiasts" will appreciate what AMD has done. Intel fans will.... make excuses to keep AMD from being viewed in a positive light.

Your not the only one that hope for the best.... I for one, hope it is "equal to or greater than".

Regardless, Ive been running Intel for the last handful of years, and wanting to try AMD again.

AMD has been great before, and AMD has played second fiddle before as well. It is possible.....AMD can pull this off.

Probable ? We dont know yet, but it is possible.

 

[guskline]

Soon we will know!

 

[Crap Daddy]

No, the guys who bought Intel CPUs - I prefer to call them this way - will not switch to the new BD because they are already running faster machines than the guys who bought AMD CPUs and if they will want to ugrade they will do so with SB-E or with Ivy Bridge next year. On the other hand, the guys who are waiting to upgrade to BD and who lost almost a year just because they do not want to switch to a better processor which is made by a company they hate, will probably feel very well when BD will prove that it can compete with an Intel chip launched almost a year ago.

 

[guskline]

Crap Daddy, my thoughts exactly. Thus my Intel 2500k@4400!

 

[SomSixDoomb]

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[nyker96]

I tell ya i'm getting an Ivy, from look of things, BD is not going to be that great. total secrecy, repeat delay, now another delay rumor saying coming sept might not happen for BD. you can tell there's some problems with this chip. my next upgrade will be a nice ivy which i can clock around 4,5 w/ minimal voltage. that chip will run circles around BD i'd fully expect that.

 

[3DVagabond]

Will all of the die-hard Intel fanbois consider switching to the industry's first native consumer 8-core chip?

Will people stand up and applaud AMD for pulling off what some had deemed "impossible" - beating Intel in R&D, with far less R&D budget?

Or is this just a nice dream of mine?

Well, if you truly mean "die-hard Intel Fanbois" then no. All they will do is point out that BD is 8 cores and how it's not fair. You know them, they are the same ones who point it out already and we don't even have any real performance figures.

Now, let's say BD is the fastest thing since stink. Yes, I think a lot of people who bought Intel because it's the fastest will switch to AMD if they buy a new build. Then there's the people who are clueless, lots and lots of them, who will buy whatever they are told to. That's where marketing, Intel's pretty good (gross understatement) at marketing, comes in. AMD seriously trails their competition in the marketing department.

 

[bridito]

In benchies we trust. Everything else is just white noise.

 

[happy medium]

I'll switch to AMD if the AM3+ socket supports the next generation BD.
I will not upgrade to a dead end platform.

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

Nope. No games support more than 4 cores so 4 Bulldozer cores are slower than 4 Intel cores which means Bulldozer is slower than Intel.

 

[Red Dawn]

I would if I could get more bang for the buck. I usually do bit upgrades over the year. Right now I'm on a SB platform (MC Deal) If I can get a BD and AM3 motherboards that's faster and cheaper than a 2500K and motherboard I definitely would consider it. I like Intel but in the past I've had a lot of AMD systems (Back in the K7 days)

The thing is all the delays and secrecy doesn't give me much hope for AMD beating Intel and right now I thing the SB platform is the bomb.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

i dont think many will switch regardless of the speed of bd. most people buy intel primarily for stability and compatibility, not speed. what do you think the chances are that, with a whole new architecture, there doesnt turn out to be some serious bug in the platform when it first comes out? i wouldnt buy bd for at least 6 months after it comes out but by then intels new stuff will be out

 

[T_Yamamoto]

i think if BD is faster and is at a nice price, id go for it since AMD doesnt mess around with the socket...unlike Intel who changes it everytime!

except i love intel

 

[VirtualLarry]

i think if BD is faster and is at a nice price, id go for it since AMD doesnt mess around with the socket...unlike Intel who changes it everytime!

except i love intel

If only that were true. Everything I've read seems to suggest that AM3+, was just AM3 extended for first-gen BD, but BD Next-Gen is going to be on FMx sockets. I guess that means that Next-Gen BD is likely to have an IGP too.

It would be nice if AMD threw their enthusiasts a bone, and released NG BD on AM3+ as well as FMx (with the caveat that NG BD on AM3+ wouldn't support an IGP), but I'm not holding my breath.

Edit: Still, even if AM3+ turns out to be a semi-dead-end socket, I'd still get a BD 8-core if it is a good bang-for-buck CPU compared to the 2500K. I love me some 8-core action!


I just hope that AM3+ isn't another Socket 754, we know how that all turned out.

 

[Piano Man]

If its another K7, I'll gladly jump ship. I'm just not that optimistic right now, though...

 

[Idontcare]

Welcome to the forums SomSixDoomb! :thumbsup:

 

[GaiaHunter]

If only that were true. Everything I've read seems to suggest that AM3+, was just AM3 extended for first-gen BD, but BD Next-Gen is going to be on FMx sockets. I guess that means that Next-Gen BD is likely to have an IGP too.

It would be nice if AMD threw their enthusiasts a bone, and released NG BD on AM3+ as well as FMx (with the caveat that NG BD on AM3+ wouldn't support an IGP), but I'm not holding my breath.

Edit: Still, even if AM3+ turns out to be a semi-dead-end socket, I'd still get a BD 8-core if it is a good bang-for-buck CPU compared to the 2500K. I love me some 8-core action!


I just hope that AM3+ isn't another Socket 754, we know how that all turned out.

http://wccftech.com/amd-bulldozer-e...am3-platform-fm2-socket-support-trinity-apus/

This is more in line with posts by JF-AMD saying Fusion CPUs wouldn't share sockets with non-fusion CPUs. (I'm aware of that other older slide that had FMx infrastructure for both Komodo and Trinity)

Disappointed to see that Trinity is FM2, though, which makes those expensive FM1 motherboards look really silly.

It also seems it is more BD->BD enhanced->BD Next