What if George W. Bush had done that?

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rudder

Lifer
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: OCguy
You and the article's author are both racist.

You still need to find a job, 13704 posts in less than 2 years and not one of them has worth a shit.

You are a postcist!
 

CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
You mean the media treated our "war president" badly? :shocked:

If Obama mucks things up as badly I'm sure he will get the same treatment.

By Whom?
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Lets not forget that he made fun of retarded kids on national television. Imagine if Bush did that or anyone else on the planet.

No, that'd be ok if Bush did it, a person is allowed to make fun of the group of which they are a part. Jews can tell jew jokes, blacks can drop N bombs, Bush could make special olympics jokes. No one would bat an eye. They'd probably smile and say "He's doing so well!"
 

fskimospy

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And there are so many cases where Bush could do things Obama could never do. It all has to do with what fits in with preconcieved ideas about people/parties. If a Republican raises taxes, he mostly gets a pass on it because people think 'well if a Republican is raising taxes we must REALLY need to do it, because Republicans are for low taxes'. If a Democrat were to raise the same tax, people think 'damn tax and spend liberals!'. Same thing with defense spending, people think Republicans are tough on defense, so if they cut programs it's okay. It's much harder for Democrats. Hell, imagine if anyone other than Nixon had tried to open China. He could only do it because everyone knew he was the biggest commie hater on the block.

On the flip side, Democrats get away with things like racist remarks (like Joe Biden) that Republicans could never get away with. Deals with big business (like the drug one) that Bush would get skewered for. People don't doubt that Democrats and Obama care more about the people in New Orleans because Democrats are known for looking out for the poor... even if he only spends 4 hours there. Bush couldn't get away with that either. (although that's really his own fault).

My point is that if a new story fits into an already established narrative like 'Democrats are pussies' or 'Republicans are racist', people are going to run with it. If it doesn't, people won't. People trying to pin it on the media loving Obama or whatever are just falling victim to the hostile media phenomenon and are allowing their biases to get in the way.
 

ericlp

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so...... how many free passes did you want to give bush? Bush got thousands of them from all the fuck ups... Till he fucked up daily two to three times. The only time he didn't fuck up is when he was on vacation at the ranch. But, he couldn't stay there for ever since he did after all have a job ... somewhat.

What did you expect...? When people start getting tired of all the fuck up's the news has to start to pick it up and when they do they pick up everything. If it's just a fuckup ever now and then .... Then no big deal but fuck up like bush? Shit... He might as well have gotten "FUCKED UP!!!" tattooed on his forehead.
 

microbial

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How quickly we forget.

If a comparison of media treatment is the point, then the MSM were pretty much imbedded in Bush's pocket in one of the worst examples of journalistic integrity--they bent over after 9/11 like a limp noodle.

A better question would have been: What if the Bush administration Hadn't done that? Addressing a number of quaint behaviors including a preemptive unprovoked attacked justified and bolstered by made-up, cooked, and generally misleading evidence.
 

Descartes

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This is extremely pathetic. In my view, both Bush and Obama get crucified all the damn time, sometimes for legitimate reasons and a lot of times not.

Bush took us into Iraq. Yes, the scale of that is greater than Obama's stupid statements, how much golf he plays, etc.

The Bush administration completely blew the Katrina handling. Obama stopped only for 4 hours. Again, the scale of comparison isn't even close.

Hypocrisy a bit? Perhaps, but these comparisons are getting really pathetic, like preschoolers claiming "Well, Johnny did it too!" as though it balances the equation.

And finally, Bush had bad people. I think he's a very weak leader overall, but his greatest weakness was getting the wrong people on the bus and not being quick enough to get them off. The amount of credit (and discredit) we give presidents is as silly as this entire article.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
With the exception of Fox, the media loves Obama and will not hold him to task for anything he does. He's done a multitude of things that are worse than much of the stuff Bush was scolded for in the media, but nobody wants to offend the dear leader or his cult followers.

Name 'em. We're waiting.
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
You mean the media treated our "war president" badly? :shocked:

If Obama mucks things up as badly I'm sure he will get the same treatment.

By Whom?

Are you that daft? If the public turns against Obama like they did Bush the same fate would await him.
 

DealMonkey

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I seem to remember the media and ACLU suing the government to allow the caskets coming back from Afghanistan to be photographed.

Guess what, we just had the deadliest month in in Afghanistan.....where are these photos they wanted to take so much?

I couldn't wait for the forums to re-open so I could point out, yet again, what a huge dipshit you are:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28875.html

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
 
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Robor

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With the exception of Fox, the media loves Obama and will not hold him to task for anything he does. He's done a multitude of things that are worse than much of the stuff Bush was scolded for in the media, but nobody wants to offend the dear leader or his cult followers.

Bullshit and you know it but whatever...
 

DesiPower

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So the theory goes, Obama induces all sorts of leg-tingling good feelings in the mainstream media, and so when he screws up, he seems to get a free pass. In contrast, the theory goes, GWB would never get such kid glove treatment from the press. So why is that? Is it as obvious as liberal bias? Or something more complicated?

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