What if Gore had been elected...

[AgentEL]

Would he have gone against the vote of the UN? Would we be having this war on Iraq right now?

 

[Ferocious]

Depended on the economy.

If the economy was good right now....we wouldn't even be over there.

EDIT: If the economy was like it is....I would say no.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Depended on the economy.

If the economy was good right now....we wouldn't even be over there.

That's right....this is all a diversion meant to distract us from the economy.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: AgentEL
Would he have gone against the vote of the UN? Would we be having this war on Iraq right now?

First of all, there probably would never have been a vote in the UN. It was the Bush Administration that pushed for a new resolution (1441) and UN vote to get Iraq to come into compliance.

I think Gore would have happily kicked that can down the road.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Al Gore would have done little in response to 9/11, the pu$$y. He would have slapped Afghanistan with some sancations, said, "shame on you," and the US would have looked weak.

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Al Gore would have done little in response to 9/11, the pu$$y. He would have slapped Afghanistan with some sancations, said, "shame on you," and the US would have looked weak.

I totally disagree. I think every American was shocked by 9-11 and would have demanded retribution no matter who was in the WH.

Politics is politics but 3000 dead Americans isn't a football to kick around.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: AgentEL
Would he have gone against the vote of the UN? Would we be having this war on Iraq right now?

Please post how each country "voted" please, I didn't even realize there was one...

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Al Gore would have done little in response to 9/11, the pu$$y. He would have slapped Afghanistan with some sancations, said, "shame on you," and the US would have looked weak.

Or he would have fired a couple of 10 million dollar missiles at at tent in afghanistan and hit a camel in the ass.

 

[PG]

He'd be on his knees giving Saddam a "Monica."

 

[human2k]

Originally posted by: PG
He'd be on his knees giving Saddam a "Monica."

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: AgentEL
Would he have gone against the vote of the UN? Would we be having this war on Iraq right now?

Please post how each country "voted" please, I didn't even realize there was one...

Actually there was a unanimous vote for resolution 1441. But France changed their minds and tried to reverse their vote.

 

[Parrotheader]

Originally posted by: NightTrain

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Al Gore would have done little in response to 9/11, the pu$$y. He would have slapped Afghanistan with some sancations, said, "shame on you," and the US would have looked weak.

I totally disagree. I think every American was shocked by 9-11 and would have demanded retribution no matter who was in the WH.

Politics is politics but 3000 dead Americans isn't a football to kick around.

I'm no Al Gore fan, but I agree. He would've had to do something more substantial - maybe not quite on the level of what Bush did, but he wouldn't have been able to just sit on his hands. And the economy was headed downward no matter who was the president - we were LONG overdue for a downturn.

The more interesting question I keep coming back to is if Al Gore was the president and we were taking the EXACT same course of action, how many of those opposed to the war would STILL be opposed to it (both domestically and internationally??) I realize some people would be opposed to it no matter who was in charge. But I can't help but think that if a democrat were president that a LOT of those opposing it would either be silent or possibly even actively supporting it. And if that's the case that's rather sad to let petty differences of opinion on more routine political matters carry over (and actually be increased) on bigger issues such as this.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Parrotheader

The more interesting question I keep coming back to is if Al Gore was the president and we were taking the EXACT same course of action, how many of those opposed to the war would STILL be opposed to it (both domestically and internationally??) I realize some people would be opposed to it no matter who was in charge. But I can't help but think that if a democrat were president that a LOT of those opposing it would either be silent or possibly even actively supporting it. And if that's the case that's rather sad to let petty differences of opinion on more routine political matters carry over (and actually be increased) on bigger issues such as this.

I'd be of the same opinion I am now and that's that the forced disarmament of Saddam is the only method. My one worry would probably have been if Gore would send enough troops/equipment over there to deal with it properly.

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: AgentEL
Would he have gone against the vote of the UN? Would we be having this war on Iraq right now?

First of all, there probably would never have been a vote in the UN. It was the Bush Administration that pushed for a new resolution (1441) and UN vote to get Iraq to come into compliance.

I think Gore would have happily kicked that can down the road.

I agree. Wonder what he would do with the N.Korea "Crisis"? As it would be the front page news instead of this Iraq War.
Perhaps pay China to solve the problem?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: AgentEL
Would he have gone against the vote of the UN? Would we be having this war on Iraq right now?

Please post how each country "voted" please, I didn't even realize there was one...

Actually there was a unanimous vote for resolution 1441. But France changed their minds and tried to reverse their vote.

I still contend, as I previously posted, that Gore would never have brought 1441 to the table at the UN. Anything after that is a moot point.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: NightTrain

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Al Gore would have done little in response to 9/11, the pu$$y. He would have slapped Afghanistan with some sancations, said, "shame on you," and the US would have looked weak.

I totally disagree. I think every American was shocked by 9-11 and would have demanded retribution no matter who was in the WH.

Politics is politics but 3000 dead Americans isn't a football to kick around.

It isn't? It sure seems to be, at least for many of the members on this board.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Al Gore would have done little in response to 9/11, the pu$$y. He would have slapped Afghanistan with some sancations, said, "shame on you," and the US would have looked weak.

Al Gore would have done what Bush has though he might have been able to get more support from out Allies. A lot of them are against this war not because they like Hussien but because they are afraid of America's might, especially under Bush whom they copnsider arrogant and foolish. That said I don't agree with their assessment of Bush and his Administration but I also feeel that Gore would have been able to carry on the good relations with them that was present under Clinton. Remember that under Clinton we didn't even bother getting the UN's permission when we needed to take Military actions in Bosnia, Kosovo and Haiti and we were able to get our allies on board with us.

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: NightTrain

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Al Gore would have done little in response to 9/11, the pu$$y. He would have slapped Afghanistan with some sancations, said, "shame on you," and the US would have looked weak.

I totally disagree. I think every American was shocked by 9-11 and would have demanded retribution no matter who was in the WH.

Politics is politics but 3000 dead Americans isn't a football to kick around.

It isn't? It sure seems to be, at least for many of the members on this board.

This isn't real. Being the POTUS and responsible for those who died is. Gore would have done what was needed.

 

[BAMAVOO]

 

[CPA]

God help us....

Even us atheist and agnostics.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

No one knows what would have happened.

 

[Nitemare]

hollywood would be praising him and his response regardless of what he did?



think we would have had something already happen to us simply because Lieberman is Jewish and suicide bombers don't particularly care for them. They would have jumped on the bandwagon that Lieberman masterminded 9/11 since 9/11 was a vast Jewish conspiracy to point the blame at the totally innocent and peaceful God fearing Al Quaeda peoples....

 

[ManSnake]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Al Gore would have done little in response to 9/11, the pu$$y. He would have slapped Afghanistan with some sancations, said, "shame on you," and the US would have looked weak.

Every president would have done the same to what Bush did immediately after 9/11, I have no doubt about it. We Americans always bind together during time of tragedy. It is sad to see that some people just can't seem to get pass the party line and have to attack the opposite side every opportunity they get even though the subject has nothing to do with politics.

 

[Red Dawn]

It is sad to see that some people just can't seem to get pass the party line and have to attack the opposite side every opportunity they get even though the subject has nothing to do with politics

Most see it for what it is, complete and utter nonsense.

 

[jjones]

To be honest, I have to agree with Queasy. At this point, I doubt there would even have been inspectors in Iraq again, no resolution, nothing. I think it would still have been business as usual at the UN.

I have absolutely nothing to base this upon either; I just don't think a Gore administration would have made Iraq an issue in crisis at this point. And I don't think much of anything would have been done by him to instigate getting the inspectors back in.

Regarding 9/11, who knows? He certainly would have struck hard at Al Qaeda but would he have gone in to topple the Taliban? Something tells me that's doubtful.

I feel that Bush almost artificially created the Iraq crisis for the American public. But that's not to say that it did not exist, in my eyes it certainly did; but with the general public and the media, out of sight is out of mind it seems. I've been pissed about the Iraq situation since we didn't kick Saddam's ass out in '91 and I said at the time we would be back. It's just that Bush pushed this crisis to the forefront, something that I do not think that Gore would have done.

That being said though, I think Bush has bumbled through much of foreign policy; from the Axis of Evil speech up through pissing nearly everyone off in trying to justify action in Iraq. One thing I do like about Bush is that he is taking action instead of reacting. He decided enough is enough and went after Iraq. I don't think Gore would have taken that path. I think at this time we would instead be dealing with North Korea's huffing and puffing; something that I'm glad Bush has ignored for the most part.