What if liberals spent more time thinking up good ideas instead of hating on Bush?

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TheSlamma

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Where is the thread

"What if republicans came up with good ideas instead of kissing Bush's a$$"

Why do you people defent THE MAN so much, he is making your party look like a bunch of lying hypocritical fools!!

Conservative my A$$!!! what is he conservative about? Is taking away rights of people (homo's) a conservative move? Is spending money like it's going out of style a CONSERVATIVE move?

If being conservative is maintaining less change then what era have you guys picked to preserve? Corporations have not been around that long, supporting a mom and pop shop is is more TRADITIONAL.

Your party does not have a compass at all.

con·ser·va·tive
adj.
Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
Traditional or restrained in style: a conservative dark suit.
Moderate; cautious: a conservative estimate.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
screwing the economy environment to the benefit of his big money supporters,
So these big money supporters.. want the economy to fail?
That depends on your definition of failure. As long as they keep their personal stashes, they don't give a sh8 whether the majority of Americans have jobs that can support families, pay for health care, educate their kids, maintain the infrastructure or clean up the environment.

I'd call that a complete failure.
dropping the ball on real national emergencies,
Name one.
Katrina is such a pretty name for an ugly disaster.
kissing ass to ultra-religious cretins
Doesn't every President?
No. Some Presidents with very strong personal religious views have had enough sense to keep it separate from their duties as President.
and generally lying about everything he does?
Is it still a lie, if he's convinced it is the truth?...
There are only two possiblities. If he is "convinced" every one of his lies is true, he's dumber than a rock. If he knows, he's a liar. Either way, he's unfit to lead the country, and depending on which lie we're talking about, the fallout from some of them may be enough to warrant criminal prosecution.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Harvey
dropping the ball on real national emergencies,
Name one.
Katrina is such a pretty name for an ugly disaster.

That is a fault of the state's governor, NOT the President. You might be able to stretch it enough to say that FEMA is also to blame, but I still don't see how Bush can be blamed for that. FEMA was working fine up until Katrina, it is hard to fix a department if its track record is clean.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
That is a fault of the state's governor, NOT the President. You might be able to stretch it enough to say that FEMA is also to blame, but I still don't see how Bush can be blamed for that. FEMA was working fine up until Katrina, it is hard to fix a department if its track record is clean.
Yesterday, it was FEMA director, Michael Chertoff's turn to be chastised for FEMA's unpreparedness for Katrina. Bush personally approved Chertoff AND dimwit, Michael Brown for their positions while his administration cut funding and restructured FEMA from a capable agency to a limp, incompetent shell of its former self.

YES! It's no stretch to see that Bush is personally responsible for FEMA's ineptitude. :|
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Harvey
YES! It's no stretch to see that Bush is personally responsible for FEMA's ineptitude. :|

I disagree completely. It's pretty asinine to think that the President could possibly be personally responsible for every bad decision or misstep that occurs somewhere within his Administration.

Tear up FEMA as you wish -- I won't disagree their response to Katrina wasn't stellar -- but trying to unload the entire ordeal on Bush personally is beyond "a stretch".
 

inhotep

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
This was my biggest problem with the Kerry campaign. Kerry never really offered any compelling reason to vote for him, besides that he wasn't George W. Bush. This was fine for 49% of the country, but not the other 2% he needed to win.


Wrong. many people did not vote, especially college age people.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Harvey
YES! It's no stretch to see that Bush is personally responsible for FEMA's ineptitude. :|

I disagree completely. It's pretty asinine to think that the President could possibly be personally responsible for every bad decision or misstep that occurs somewhere within his Administration.

Tear up FEMA as you wish -- I won't disagree their response to Katrina wasn't stellar -- but trying to unload the entire ordeal on Bush personally is beyond "a stretch".
"The buck stops here."
- President Harry S. Truman

"Anyone want to claim this buck that keeps falling on my desk?"
- President George W. Bush
 

azazyel

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CK

Yes, we need massive budget cuts where possible. NASA?

I would still rather put maned exploration on hold for a few years than cut our funding to public brodcasting but that's just me.

We have many restrictions with China because China has horrendous human-rights issues and we are signaling our "disapproval" of them with limited trade. We have no need to "get on their good side," if they even have such a thing.

Aren't there quite a few high placed US officials over there now?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/10/19/china.rumsfeld/index.html
 
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