What if you shoot down a surveilance drone tresspassing on your property?

[JEDI]

your house sits on a 1 acre lot.
u walk outside and see a drone hovering about 100' above your house.

u get your AR-15 and shoot down the drone.

 

[bignateyk]

I doubt you would bring down a drone with your AR-15, but in the event you did, I think you'd have a hard time claiming that you own 100+ feet of air space over your house.

As far as I know there is no ownership of air space over residential property.

 

[Anubis]

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As far as I know there is no ownership of air space over residential property.

pretty sure this depends on the state

 

[waggy]

sadly you don't own the air space.

though if you ahve one over your house i think you have more to worry about then if you get arrested for shooting down the drown.

 

[Zargon]

it definately depends on the state. land/mineral/air/water rights are state by state

 

[calvinbiss]

You would be indicted for manslaughter when the rounds that missed the drone kill your neighbor since you were stupid enough to shoot up into the air.

 

[JEDI]

You would be indicted for manslaughter when the rounds that missed the drone kill your neighbor since you were stupid enough to shoot up into the air.

lol.. idiot

how fast does a spent bullet fall via gravity?
hint: not terminal speed

u get hurt way more if a apple is thrown up in the air and hits u as its coming down.
hell, sit under an apple tree and a apple falls...

 

[waggy]

lol.. idiot

how fast does a spent bullet fall via gravity?
hint: not terminal speed

u get hurt way more if a apple is thrown up in the air and hits u as its coming down.
hell, sit under an apple tree and a apple falls...

you are a idiot.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240433/Boy-killed-bullet-fired-2-miles-away.html

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2013/01/04/11/37/us-girl-10-killed-by-falling-bullet-on-new-years


fuck. i could go on. but why bother?

 

[Gibsons]

lol.. idiot

how fast does a spent bullet fall via gravity?
hint: not terminal speed

u get hurt way more if a apple is thrown up in the air and hits u as its coming down.
hell, sit under an apple tree and a apple falls...

What is "terminal speed?"

 

[gorcorps]

lol.. idiot

how fast does a spent bullet fall via gravity?
hint: not terminal speed

u get hurt way more if a apple is thrown up in the air and hits u as its coming down.
hell, sit under an apple tree and a apple falls...

While for the most part I agree with you, there have been enough experiments that show bullets will continue on their ballistic trajectory and can indeed be fatal. It may be rare but it's not impossible.

Also, you'd have to be a moron to shoot down a drone with an AR. Anybody who's bird hunted knows you need to be using a shotgun with some bigger shot... maybe #2, 4 or so (same thing you'd take down a goose with). Then you don't have to worry about the shots carrying over a distance, and you'll actually be able to take down your target.

Then there's the other issue of not being allowed to fire guns within city limits. Most cities don't let you do that, so at a minimum they could spank you for that.

 

[waggy]

While for the most part I agree with you, there have been enough experiments that show bullets will continue on their ballistic trajectory and can indeed be fatal. It may be rare but it's not impossible.

indeed it can be. its rare because the odds on hitting someone is low. but happens enough to say what he did is idiotic.

 

[Sluggo]

Since there is no pilot, I think you can shine a laser at it all you damn well please.

 

[BUTCH1]

Since the FAA determines who can fly what, where, and when I'm guessing that you don't "own" the airspace above your domicile and as already mentioned it's usually illegal to discharge firearms within city limits (home defense not withstanding) plus, since the drone did not pose a threat to you and you were successful in shooting it down the USAF would seek reimbursement for destroying their hardware and I doubt they come cheap..

 

[AeroEngy]

lol.. idiot

how fast does a spent bullet fall via gravity?
hint: not terminal speed

u get hurt way more if a apple is thrown up in the air and hits u as its coming down.
hell, sit under an apple tree and a apple falls...

Terminal Velocity (noun)- The constant maximum velocity reached by a body falling under gravity through a fluid, esp the atmosphere.

Essentially when drag (determined by aerodynamics) = the force of gravity.
So how fast does a bullet fall? Answer: At exactly its terminal velocity.

Perhaps you meant muzzle velocity?

 

[BUTCH1]

indeed it can be. its rare because the odds on hitting someone is low. but happens enough to say what he did is idiotic.

True, they even warn residents in certain areas to stay indoors at new years eve right after 12:00 AM to avoid falling ordinance from idiots shooting their guns off...

 

[Stone Rain]

You own your property, but not the airspace above it. Class E airspace, which is what you likely fall into, is open to anyone who wants to fly; and that include the government. Shooting down a drone in this instance is no different than if I stood on my porch and used an RPG to shoot down a farmers' crop duster.

 

[OutHouse]

lol.. idiot

how fast does a spent bullet fall via gravity?
hint: not terminal speed

u get hurt way more if a apple is thrown up in the air and hits u as its coming down.
hell, sit under an apple tree and a apple falls...

jesus christ. stop posting its clear you are retarded.

 

[silverpig]

Terminal Velocity (noun)- The constant maximum velocity reached by a body falling under gravity through a fluid, esp the atmosphere.

Essentially when drag (determined by aerodynamics) = the force of gravity.
So how fast does a bullet fall? Answer: At exactly its terminal velocity.

Perhaps you meant muzzle velocity?

It would likely be below terminal velocity even. Certainly less at most points during its downward fall as it would still be accelerating.

 

[mmntech]

Buy RC plane, sneak up on it, tip it over. Gee officer, it just crashed. Must have been faulty.

 

[Craig234]

The better question is what would happen if the drone shot you.

Answer: nothing.

 

[OutHouse]

http://www.legalflip.com/Article.aspx?id=17&pageid=72

Many landowners may not be aware of the fact that they have a right to use and possess the airspace the "floats" above the actual property they own. This right is not exclusive, and as such, airspace may be utilized by others for different purposes than a landowner would. Such a concept is easy to understand when you think of it in relation to aircrafts. For example, if you build a standard two-story house on your property, you have the right to not have that structure be subject to any physical interference from aircrafts.

On the flipside, aircrafts do have the right to use airspace for flights, as long as they don’t interfere with the rights of the landowners.

The law is clear that an owner is entitled to freedom from excessive noise and passage by airborne carriers. If an aircraft is in flight so low that it is unreasonably disturbing to the landowner, the aircraft could be held liable for trespassing on your property. Additionally, if the aircraft or airport is government-owned, such flights would constitute a "taking" of your property.

 

[FerrelGeek]

sadly you don't own the air space.

though if you ahve one over your house i think you have more to worry about then if you get arrested for shooting down the drown.

If Eric Holder thinks you're an imminent threat, he thinks he has the right to off you.

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Then there's the other issue of not being allowed to fire guns within city limits. Most cities don't let you do that, so at a minimum they could spank you for that.

Tell that to Biden.

 

[AeroEngy]

It would likely be below terminal velocity even. Certainly less at most points during its downward fall as it would still be accelerating.

It would surely be below terminal velocity since you only approach it asymptotically via free fall and never actually reach that speed.

I made some rough calculations based on a 7.62 bullet and varying the drag coefficients since I couldn't find an exact one. It should take somewhere between 13-19 seconds depending on Cd to reach 90% of terminal velocity.

Integrating the velocity profile from highest to lowest Cd to reach that 90% of Vt results in fall distances of 400,560, and 815 meters.

I found estimates for bullet heights fired straight up for an 7.62mm round to be approximately 2400 meters more than enough to reach ~terminal velocity.

 

[mgttr]

u get your AR-15 and shoot down the drone.

Don't use the AR-15, use a shotgun with these rounds:

http://www.guns.com/2013/04/01/tacnitions-new-12-gauge-depleted-uranium-drone-loads/

:whiste:

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Don't use the AR-15, use a shotgun with these rounds:

http://www.guns.com/2013/04/01/tacnitions-new-12-gauge-depleted-uranium-drone-loads/

:whiste:

Oh man, that link...
. “Years of research and development have gone into these highly effective 12 gauge shells that can turn even Joe Biden’s double barrel shotgun into an instant anti-aircraft platform. Specially formulated propellant is capable of launching 9 pellets of depleted uranium rounds up to 1 km straight up into the air. With accurate shot placement, this armor piercing buckshot will disable vital systems on modern military drones. At minimum, the force of impact will disable navigation systems, but in over 60% of our field tests, the drones were incapable of remaining airborne after contact with our Anti-Drone Loads.”


1) How many years have development for an issue that hasn't come up since the last year or so?


2) Shooting depleted uranium into the air is the greatest idea ever.


3) Drones don't fly at 1km high. They have a ceiling of almost 8km.


4) There is no such thing as accurate shot placement when using buck at 1km straight up.


5) How the hell do you know if the force of the impact will disable navigation systems. At what distance from the gun will this happen. What does that 1km range into the air mean? Does that mean the pellets will start falling back down after it travels 1km into the air? Do these people realize exactly how big these things are?


6) What fucking field tests? Do they have enough predator drones simply sitting around and can afford to have pilots that are experianced enough to fly these things, and also have enough to shoot them down with a shotgun during testing?