If you cut off the tip of another man's penis you receive his energy.
There is nothing immortal about sex. Grow up.
You also have NO IDEA if they are having sex or not. You are completely naive if you think you have a clue!
Damn shame, that.
You've posted a link that shows two pages out of a 245 page book. Do you have any idea what's in the other 243 pages? Maybe it's something that's legitimately educational. Is one steamy sex scene enough to decry a piece of literature? Because there are a lot of literary masterpieces that include sex. Is any sexual content enough to decry something as devoid of literary or artistic value? Are you the final judge of morality when it comes to sexuality in art?
Education touches on controversial topics. I had a conversation in a high school social studies class about bigotry where my teacher gave us examples using words like "lovely human" and "******." Clearly I can't say those words at work without offending someone; I'd probably get fired. But an academic setting is the perfect place to discuss controversial topics. Sure, people might get offended, but that's part of the educational process. Teaching a social studies lesson about bigotry without identifying examples of bigotry would be utterly pointless. Similarly, pretending that sex doesn't exist is an idiotic way to educate adolescents. You can't just stick your head in the sand and pretend that a 15 year old isn't going to have sexual thoughts; it's asinine. And if you assume that all it takes to open those floodgates and unleash a raging hormonal teen orgy is a single depiction of sex in a single book, you have no respect for the teenagers you're purportedly trying to protect.
You're Goddamn right I am.. Judge Jury and Executioner when it comes to what content is being fed to my kids! And it's out of respect for the fact that they ARE JUST KIDS!
This. You can find diagrams online if you need more information.Who said anything about anal? She is fully accessible from behind.
Why don't we just hand out 50 Shades of Gray to 4th graders then and call it good?
I'm not a parent yet, so maybe my views will change in a few years, but I've always thought that when I do have kids, my duty is as much to educate them and prepare them for the world as it is to protect them. And your use of the word "protect" seems odd to me in this context; we're not talking about someone attacking your children, we're talking about them being exposed to a verbal depiction of kinky foreplay and sex. Is it really "protection" to shield them from depictions of acts that make you uncomfortable? Again, I'm not a parent, but if I were confronted with a similar situation, I would hope my response would not be "YOU SHALT NOT READ THINE SMUT," but rather educating my son/daughter that such depictions are descriptive of acts that I personally find immoral. If I've done my job educating them up to that point, they should be able to understand that they might be exposed to things they, or I, don't agree with in the context of their education, and that's OK.It's jerkoffs like you that have completely given up on morality and your duty as a parent to protect your kids that propagate this problem to the point it is now accepted as the norm!.. Disgusting! And the fact that we've become so socially numb to it all is saddening.. you my friend are a shining example..
This would be physically impossible without adoption being involved. Even if I started right now, my daughter would have to get knocked up at age 3 to make this happen, and that's very unlikely; I'll be sure to teach her about contraception.Have fun being a 35YO Grandpa raising a baby again after your teenage daughter gets knocked up because they read this book and thought it would be a good idea to try. Wish HER luck for me making it through high-school and let alone college and on to a productive adult live. Not that it can't be done - but it's gonna be about 100x tougher.
I don't think you're a relic, I think you're misguided in your attempt to shield your children from any depictions of things that make you uncomfortable. Education is about confronting uncomfortable situations, not running from them. If one paragraph is all it takes for your message of "sex is immoral" to be abandoned by your children, you've failed to educate your children as to why you believe that and why they should to. That's not on the school.But ha.. fuck it, no reason to get be concerned about my kid's education.. Too easy just to look the other way. I'm a relic.. blah blah..
You're Goddamn right I am.. Judge Jury and Executioner when it comes to what content is being fed to my kids! And it's out of respect for the fact that they ARE JUST KIDS!
Where has it been said in the thread that this is necessary (incumbent) to teach in 10th grade english? First straw man.
Your assumption is that the passage itself was intended to be the educational part of the book. Another straw man argument that has yet to be put forward.
Where in the article does it state that this specific passage was read out loud? I am not aware than in 10th grade entire novels are read out loud during class time. That would take up the entire class. Reading a book out loud in class does not mean all passages are read out loud. Another straw man.
Your reading comprehension is WEAK!Your straw man game is strong.
Great idea. But why wait until she is 15 to foment this interest in her? Also be sure to cover deep throat techniques, just to add additional defense to getting pregnant.
^^ this makes no sense ^^
Here's what I know.
The school is teaching this smut to grade schoolers. I suppose you approve?
What's your angle here anyway and why are you trying to distract from the issue and make it something about me?
There is nothing immoral about sex. Grow up.
A parent has made the claim in an email that Dreaming in Cuban was assigned to everyone in one of her sons 10th-grade classes. In addition, students read the book out loud during class.
Your reading comprehension is WEAK!
First off you have no clue what common core is.
Second you are raging over a little sex passage in a book that is being to teach 10th graders.
This isn't anything special or new to them, it won't be but something that might help keep them interested for a page or two.
Nice, take an innocent statement that I plan to educate my daughter about sex (or at least supplement my wife with the process) and make it sound as if I'm going to train her to love anal. Sounds about right.Great idea. But why wait until she is 15 to foment this interest in her? Also be sure to cover deep throat techniques, just to add additional defense to getting pregnant.
Apparently common core has removed huck Finn and surely that is in part due to use of nigg3r, so we replace that with rough sex. Sounds about right.
OP has discovered what happens when discussing the particulars of raising kids with people who have more experience with porn than child rearing. The results are not terribly surprising I suppose.
LOL.. figured that was coming.. So smutty literature from the 10th grade English class sensationalizing anal sex and bondage equates to "discussing sexuality" with your daughter?
Why don't we just hand out 50 Shades of Gray to 4th graders then and call it good?
Oh, and does it really matter which outlet decided to pick up the story and run with it? I suppose it would only be credible if it was being covered by the Young Turks or the Daily Kos?
Original article came from here:
http://eagnews.org/10th-grade-class-reads-erotic-novel-recommended-by-common-core-proponents/
It's definitely not possible that they read the entire book out loud during class.
Nice, take an innocent statement that I plan to educate my daughter about sex (or at least supplement my wife with the process) and make it sound as if I'm going to train her to love anal. Sounds about right.
If you want kids to learn BDSM the right way, DON'T USE 50 Shades of Gray!!! There's much better material out there! At least make them read "Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns".
Maybe they did, maybe they didn't? I wasn't there.. were you? I have the claim of the parent mentioned in the article to extrapolate from same as you.
To say it's definitely no possible? We read To Kill A Mockingbird out loud in class - the entire book with each students taking a different passage when I was in school. Not possible? As in absolutely beyond the pale of anything that is possible? I say nay.
(you'll pardon me if my sarcasm meter is broken)
I'm not talking about Common Core, the pluses or minuses if it's use. I'm not claiming to be an expert on the topic and I didn't come here to pretend I was. All I mentioned was an anecdotal link between one said literary novel and the fact it shows up on the recommended reading list of... which is mentioned in the original article. My own words were in fact that the topic "involved Common Core".
Jesus.. you're seriously so far out of your tree that you can't put that much together for yourself?
Yes, yes I am. Bravo sir.
According to whom exactly? You explicitly know this to be an undisputed matter of fact for each and every child how?...
Once again you show to have no understanding what common core actually is.
It's really sad in this country that sex is so looked down upon, especially while we don't care about death, killing, torture,...
Sex is marginalised. In the Republic it is only an animal appetite, not a personal affection [225] leading to lifelong exclusive commitment. And family affection is universalised behind a veil of ignorance. Sex is an instinct we happen to have, and one which we need on occasion to gratify in order to secure the continuance of the species.
WTF.. seriously dude? Isn't that what "teachers" are hired do? TEACH?
Not MY assumption... But good job of attacking something completely out of context that was a direct response to....
Originally Posted by dank69 View Post
LOL anal? Clearly your sex education is lacking as well.
And even if it was about anal, so what? Do you think many 10th graders don't know what anal os?
A parent has made the claim in an email that Dreaming in Cuban was assigned to everyone in one of her sons 10th-grade classes. In addition, students read the book out loud during class.
Your reading comprehension is WEAK!