What income do you need to consider purchasing a $10k watch? $100k car?

nexus5rocks

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Probably better phrased as disposable income needed due to adjustments for CoL and personal spending habits, but annual salary is something most people can more easily relate to.

Lets assume all necessities are covered including retirement savings.

At a salary of $100k/year, having $1.5k disposable income a month, you can mathematically afford it but it wouldn't feel like the wisest purchase.
 

zinfamous

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You need the amount of cash it takes to buy those things straight up without loans, and to not put yourself in debt with other cost of living expenses. Say you don't plan to save any money for a year, and you only spend 30k/year living, then you need to pull in $140k after taxes in one year.

Or save for x years to make those purchases.
 

brainhulk

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pffft...everybody knows only real ballers buy M3's. The Ultimate Driving Machine
 

aigomorla

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You need the amount of cash it takes to buy those things straight up without loans, and to not put yourself in debt with other cost of living expenses. Say you don't plan to save any money for a year, and you only spend 30k/year living, then you need to pull in $140k after taxes in one year.

Or save for x years to make those purchases.

actually no zin... the car can be a tax write off.
So either u pay the government the money in taxes or your write it off and enjoy a fat ride with money that u would of had to give to the government.

i would never buy either of those things. way too expensive for no real benefit.

Again, depending on income and profession, the car can be a tax write off.
 

purbeast0

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If I was pulling in 400k a year I think at that point I'd consider a 100k car. But then again once you hit a certain amount of money, where everything above it is extra play money, maybe I would get one if I was making more.

I bought a $30k car when I was at like $110k and that is almost 25% of my annual pay at the time. So I'm kind of going along the lines of 100k being 25% of 400k. If I was making $400k though I'd have a lot of expensive toys probably, but would use it more to take exotic vacations regularly.

At that point I think I could easily afford a $10k watch and just not care about spending it on a watch. Although I am not really into watches so that would be very hard for me to do probably.
 

nexus5rocks

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If I was pulling in 400k a year I think at that point I'd consider a 100k car. But then again once you hit a certain amount of money, where everything above it is extra play money, maybe I would get one if I was making more.

I bought a $30k car when I was at like $110k and that is almost 25% of my annual pay at the time. So I'm kind of going along the lines of 100k being 25% of 400k. If I was making $400k though I'd have a lot of expensive toys probably, but would use it more to take exotic vacations regularly.

At that point I think I could easily afford a $10k watch and just not care about spending it on a watch. Although I am not really into watches so that would be very hard for me to do probably.

The watch is more "affordable" than the car, but its price point is many times that of the average watch, where as a $100k car is only 3x more expensive than the average car.
There is also a much more noticeable difference in a $100k car compared to an Accord in terms of performance, quality, comfort, etc. whereas a $1k watch will tell time just as well as a $10k watch.

The only thing a watch has going for it is that it will retain value better (depending on the watch) and it can be passed down to your children.
 

madoka

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The only thing a watch has going for it is that it will retain value better (depending on the watch) and it can be passed down to your children.

I'm pretty sure that my Rolexes have increased in value over the past 15 years. But I find them to be completely useless as I don't like to wear watches or any jewelry.

i would never buy either of those things. way too expensive for no real benefit.

In the end, I tend to agree with this. I think in the past four years since I bought it, I've put 13,000 miles on my GTR and in the past 15 years, I wore a Rolex twice.
 
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OverVolt

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You actually don't need income, you need investments. Where buying something like that is just your dividend check for the quarter. Saw someone post a dividend check for $151,000 and change on RKOI once. You could buy an Aston Martin and have plenty left.

Say you had $10mil in cash and you get a 6% ROI in the stock market. Thats $600k for doing nothing. Support yourself with work and invest on the side. Those are the types who afford such things. Businessmen can afford stuff like that when you sell a business. You can have 3-4 sub shop stores and sell one for $200k because its the worst one and still make $5k/month improving the other two.

Whole other world of money out there man.
 

Eug

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If I was pulling in 400k a year I think at that point I'd consider a 100k car. But then again once you hit a certain amount of money, where everything above it is extra play money, maybe I would get one if I was making more.
I wouldn't.

I bought a $30k car when I was at like $110k and that is almost 25% of my annual pay at the time. So I'm kind of going along the lines of 100k being 25% of 400k. If I was making $400k though I'd have a lot of expensive toys probably, but would use it more to take exotic vacations regularly.
It's really not the same thing. Note also that you're being taxed way more at $400000, but it's not even that. For a lot of people, once you get to a certain level, it's just a matter of diminishing returns. A $5000 car will suck. A $15000 car might suck. A $30000 car might be a nice family car, but nothing special. A $60000 might be a very nice luxury car, but a $100000 car might just be a luxury car with a bigger engine and a few more bells and whistles. For many people with that kind of money, the extra $40000 just isn't worth it. Not everyone making a of money like spending it frivolously. Or if the do want to drop a lot of cash on something, they might choose something else instead, like 5-star vacations.

At that point I think I could easily afford a $10k watch and just not care about spending it on a watch. Although I am not really into watches so that would be very hard for me to do probably.
Exactly. You're not into watches, so that kind of expense would seem kinda stupid to you. Maybe if you were a real hardcore car guy, then $100000 would make sense to you, but a LOT of people who make that kind of coin just aren't into cars that much. I don't salivate at the latest sports cars myself, and US$100000 is almost twice as much as what I'd consider spending on a car.

Many people I know at my workplace are in the US$250000-500000 income range or more. A few of them do indeed have $100000 cars. In fact, one has a US$175000 car, and he spent 5-figures on his laser headlamps alone. However, it's interesting to see the range of different cars owned by people working there in this income range. Several of them drive Dodge Caravans or Toyota Camrys. I've even seen an 8 year-old beige Toyota Corolla or two. Personally, even if I won two million dollars tomorrow, I wouldn't spend my $100000 on a car. I'd probably keep my current Prius Plug-in (which I bought used) for a few years, and then buy another hybrid with all wheel drive or something like that. BTW, we just bought a Toyota RAV4 Limited Hybrid AWD (for the wife). We looked at the Lexus NX300h and the Lexus RX450h but just didn't feel they were worth it. I just spec'd out a Lexus RX450h right now with the luxury features I'd consider, it comes out to just over $60000. If I won two million bux tomorrow, maybe I'd get that. BTW, out of that group of high income people it seems that $100000 on a car is really the exception. A lot of them have $50000-$60000 luxury cars, though. It seems like if you look at it like a bell curve, the peak is somewhere around $50000, with some people spending $30000 and some people spending $70000, but very few spending $100000. That said it's not an evenly distributed bell curve, because there are way more people in that income group driving old Toyotas worth maybe $15000 now than people who own brand new $135000 cars.

Also, I won't even spend $100 on a watch these days, because I think it's pointless. Maybe I'd spend $15 on a Mickey Mouse watch though, just for fun, or perhaps even $40 if it kept good time.

OTOH, I own four computers and two tablets for myself, for no good reason. (That's not counting the several other computers we have around the house.) I really only need two computers and 1 tablet. And I'll spend CAD$1000 on a damn phone.
 
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OverVolt

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The watch is more "affordable" than the car, but its price point is many times that of the average watch, where as a $100k car is only 3x more expensive than the average car.
There is also a much more noticeable difference in a $100k car compared to an Accord in terms of performance, quality, comfort, etc. whereas a $1k watch will tell time just as well as a $10k watch.

The only thing a watch has going for it is that it will retain value better (depending on the watch) and it can be passed down to your children.
Well yea, Warren Buffet drives a 2005 Cadillac or something like that but its really just because on paper a car is a depreciating asset. Anything you put into a car is a waste. Transportation costs are sunk costs. So he has a 2005 Cadillac and probably has a company jet. Where as alot of faux rich drop like $100k on a BMW and still have to drive a 25 year old Buick in retirement because they done fucked up their assets. Anybody actually looking to grow their wealth isn't going to take gains and plow it into a car. Watches more or less hold their value at least. So you get some use out of it and can always sell it to raise cash should you need to.

I've always thought cars were a huge waste other than size/safety/usage.
 

RichieZ

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i have what new was a 100K+ car (991 911S that I bought CPO for 30% off at 1.5 years old) however its because I enjoy it and take it to the track. my daily driver is a prius b/c its cheap reliable and gets good mileage.

my salary isn't very high for the bay area, most of my money comes from investing well and startup equity (only counting liquid equity). i have no net debt (mortgage but can pay off anytime), paid cash for the car and still feel kind of bad about it sometimes.

watches though i don't understand.
 
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DigDog

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Mourinho was pictured once sporting a Casio watch from the 80s

currently on sale at Argos for about a fiver.
 

werepossum

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The only way I'd ever spend $100k on a car is for something collectible, and I'd never consider a $10k watch. But it would take a certain level of wealth to consider either, not just income.
 

Eug

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Mourinho was pictured once sporting a Casio watch from the 80s

currently on sale at Argos for about a fiver.
One of my colleagues makes CAD$350000 a year and he still wears one like that. And he doesn't even own a car AFAIK. He takes the bus. Or if he does own a car I've never seen him use it. And his computer is a 6 year-old Pentium dual-core.

And it most likely keeps better time than most Rolexes. I remember reading an article back in the 80s about an actor. I think it was Steve Martin but I'm not sure. The reporter knew he had a Rolex or two but noticed the actor was wearing a Seiko worth "just" a couple of hundred dollars so the reporter asked why. The answer was simple. The Seiko seemed fine as a watch and kept better time than his Rolex.
 

TallBill

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I would have almost no interest in purchasing either. My income would have to be six digits for sure but I still wouldn't want either. I'd prefer not to drive anywhere. 100k is a lot of Uber rides.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I make six figures, live in an area with one of the lowest CoLs in the US, have zero debt outside a mortgage, have large savings, and I drive a 15 year-old beater. I have to replace that car soon but I'm sure I'll end up with something cheap and reliable.
 

Eug

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I spent $3000 to cater a party but wouldn't want to do that too often.

I couldn't fathom being some 20 year-old with a shit-paying job demanding dad pay for a $30000 wedding. I'd rather have 10 $3000 parties with friends.
 
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