What is it about humans that makes some of us think shooting an animal with a gun is brave or noble or tough

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: acole1

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Dean

Originally posted by: dahunan
If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Remember that the next time you eat a steak, those steer's were a very easy take.

Do you have an issue with people fishing also?

I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Ever seen a deer attack someone? They are hardly lacking in ability to defend themselvs, provided the chance.

It has happened many times where the hunter will shoot the deer and go to collect it, but it isn't entirely dead and fights back with flailing antlers and hooves... not something I would want to be around.

Fishing must also be bad if hunting is. Fish have NO way of defending themselves... so if you were a REAL fisherman you would dive in the river and catch it in your mouth! (LMAO) People pose with fish too FYI.

I could also claim that people who spend all their time building computers are enormous idiots too. I mean, how stupid is it to build a computer when you can just go online and have one shipping to you, and you don't have to do any work! Or why in the world would anyone play computer games... not like they are hard! Those people are just wasting their lives every time they play a computer game. How manly is that, the computer can't even do what it wants and fight back. It just sits there taking inputs!

Hunting and fishing take skill, patience, and knowledge. Including the knowledge that we are at the top of the food chain.

BTW, I don't think a football knows it's in a sport either.

^^ did the deer go into the city and start attacking humans or did it attack the man who shot it -- you deserve dumbest fvcking reply of the day

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Indeed. Cattle farmers don't go to the abatoirs and pose with the cow after it has had a bullet or bolt put through it's head. it's the machismo or macho attitude of those creeps that is truly pathetic. there is sad & revolting about the way those turds are posing with the beautiful animals they have senselessly slaughtered, acting as if they are "big men" for having used high powered weaponry to take down a defenceless animal.

You have no clue. "Senselessly slaughtered"? What do you think happends to these animals with no hunters? There would be no land for them and they would die of disease or starvation.

Out of all of the different types of animals that are hunted, which are the over-populated?

This isnt a smart a$$ question, I'm actually curious to know.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Indeed. Cattle farmers don't go to the abatoirs and pose with the cow after it has had a bullet or bolt put through it's head. it's the machismo or macho attitude of those creeps that is truly pathetic. there is sad & revolting about the way those turds are posing with the beautiful animals they have senselessly slaughtered, acting as if they are "big men" for having used high powered weaponry to take down a defenceless animal.

You have no clue. "Senselessly slaughtered"? What do you think happends to these animals with no hunters? There would be no land for them and they would die of disease or starvation.

Out of all of the different types of animals that are hunted, which are the over-populated?

This isnt a smart a$$ question, I'm actually curious to know.

in some areas deer are way over-populated. they are even hireing hunters to come in and thin it out.

there was a big argument recently because the elk (i think) population in one of the protected parks was very sick. there was to many of them and not enough food. then some got sick etc.

so they had some hunters come in and think it out. many idiots got mad and wanted the hunters out of the perserve. even though that would kill off the herd.

lets see if i can find the articles heh

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Indeed. Cattle farmers don't go to the abatoirs and pose with the cow after it has had a bullet or bolt put through it's head. it's the machismo or macho attitude of those creeps that is truly pathetic. there is sad & revolting about the way those turds are posing with the beautiful animals they have senselessly slaughtered, acting as if they are "big men" for having used high powered weaponry to take down a defenceless animal.

You have no clue. "Senselessly slaughtered"? What do you think happends to these animals with no hunters? There would be no land for them and they would die of disease or starvation.

Out of all of the different types of animals that are hunted, which are the over-populated?

This isnt a smart a$$ question, I'm actually curious to know.

White-tail deer are the biggest group. Many places, usually closed to all hunting, will open to managed hunts just to thin herds.

 

[BlancoNino]

Here is what hunting is.

Lots of preparations...warm clothes, food, skimpy tent, ammunition, guns, etc all loaded into a truck.

Long drive up to the mountains.

Very long, slow hike through the woods...often times going days without seeing anything to shoot...being extremely cold and patient.

Finally seeing an animal to shoot after days of waiting in the freezing cold and taking careful aim and preparation to shoot it...chances are...you'll miss if it's a long ways away and you'll be screwed. But if you hit it...man that must feel good. I know I'd have a sense of accomplishment.

Do you guys even bother to think about the whole hunting process?

 

[acole1]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: acole1

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Dean

Originally posted by: dahunan
If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Remember that the next time you eat a steak, those steer's were a very easy take.

Do you have an issue with people fishing also?

I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Ever seen a deer attack someone? They are hardly lacking in ability to defend themselvs, provided the chance.

It has happened many times where the hunter will shoot the deer and go to collect it, but it isn't entirely dead and fights back with flailing antlers and hooves... not something I would want to be around.

Fishing must also be bad if hunting is. Fish have NO way of defending themselves... so if you were a REAL fisherman you would dive in the river and catch it in your mouth! (LMAO) People pose with fish too FYI.

I could also claim that people who spend all their time building computers are enormous idiots too. I mean, how stupid is it to build a computer when you can just go online and have one shipping to you, and you don't have to do any work! Or why in the world would anyone play computer games... not like they are hard! Those people are just wasting their lives every time they play a computer game. How manly is that, the computer can't even do what it wants and fight back. It just sits there taking inputs!

Hunting and fishing take skill, patience, and knowledge. Including the knowledge that we are at the top of the food chain.

BTW, I don't think a football knows it's in a sport either.

^^ did the deer go into the city and start attacking humans or did it attack the man who shot it -- you deserve dumbest fvcking reply of the day

THANK YOU! I always wanted that award!!

Now you deserve the award of $500 so you can go to your local county college and take a class in reading comprehension!

People shoot deer for sport, not for defense.

My point was only that deer are not defenseless. They are not aggressive, but they can defend themselves when provoked.

 

[Maxspeed996]

because hunting bear with a "switch" is stupid phrase.

 

[acole1]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Here is what hunting is.

Lots of preparations...warm clothes, food, skimpy tent, ammunition, guns, etc all loaded into a truck.

Long drive up to the mountains.

Very long, slow hike through the woods...often times going days without seeing anything to shoot...being extremely cold and patient.

Finally seeing an animal to shoot after days of waiting in the freezing cold and taking careful aim and preparation to shoot it...chances are...you'll miss if it's a long ways away and you'll be screwed. But if you hit it...man that must feel good. I know I'd have a sense of accomplishment.

Do you guys even bother to think about the whole hunting process?

QFT

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
when the world goes to crap and there is no food in a stores , don't go looking for help from a hunter, they'll remember this thread

we might run out of bullets shortly thereafter

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Here is what hunting is.

Lots of preparations...warm clothes, food, skimpy tent, ammunition, guns, etc all loaded into a truck.

Long drive up to the mountains.

Very long, slow hike through the woods...often times going days without seeing anything to shoot...being extremely cold and patient.

Finally seeing an animal to shoot after days of waiting in the freezing cold and taking careful aim and preparation to shoot it...chances are...you'll miss if it's a long ways away and you'll be screwed. But if you hit it...man that must feel good. I know I'd have a sense of accomplishment.

Do you guys even bother to think about the whole hunting process?

You forgot the next steps.. pose with the animal you just shot as though you killed it out of bravery or self defense .. or EVEN killed it out of absolute necessity?

I think a man could be proud of making a hard decision and killing animals because we have destroyed the habitat for their normal predators.. but to pose with a dead animals body? and we thought native americans were savages??

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: FoBoT
when the world goes to crap and there is no food in a stores , don't go looking for help from a hunter, they'll remember this thread

we might run out of bullets shortly thereafter

thats fine.

with my bow and arrow's i will still get what is needed.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: acole1
My point was only that deer are not defenseless. They are not aggressive, but they can defend themselves when provoked.

For all practical purposes, deer ARE defenseless against a high-powered rifle.

Maybe if these creeps were hunting deer with just a sharp knife or spear, you might have a point.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: acole1

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: acole1

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Dean

Originally posted by: dahunan
If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Remember that the next time you eat a steak, those steer's were a very easy take.

Do you have an issue with people fishing also?

I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Ever seen a deer attack someone? They are hardly lacking in ability to defend themselvs, provided the chance.

It has happened many times where the hunter will shoot the deer and go to collect it, but it isn't entirely dead and fights back with flailing antlers and hooves... not something I would want to be around.

Fishing must also be bad if hunting is. Fish have NO way of defending themselves... so if you were a REAL fisherman you would dive in the river and catch it in your mouth! (LMAO) People pose with fish too FYI.

I could also claim that people who spend all their time building computers are enormous idiots too. I mean, how stupid is it to build a computer when you can just go online and have one shipping to you, and you don't have to do any work! Or why in the world would anyone play computer games... not like they are hard! Those people are just wasting their lives every time they play a computer game. How manly is that, the computer can't even do what it wants and fight back. It just sits there taking inputs!

Hunting and fishing take skill, patience, and knowledge. Including the knowledge that we are at the top of the food chain.

BTW, I don't think a football knows it's in a sport either.

^^ did the deer go into the city and start attacking humans or did it attack the man who shot it -- you deserve dumbest fvcking reply of the day

THANK YOU! I always wanted that award!!

Now you deserve the award of $500 so you can go to your local county college and take a class in reading comprehension!

People shoot deer for sport, not for defense.

My point was only that deer are not defenseless. They are not aggressive, but they can defend themselves when provoked.

Deer ARE DEFENSELSS AGAINST HIGH POWERED RIFLES or do you disagree with that?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Why do the lions keep killing the poor zebras? Or why do bobcats keep killing those poor little rabbits!? They are no match since those bobcats have big teeth and claws. They're a lot stronger too. Those lions are 'piss weak' because they hunt in groups and target young or weaker zebras. 5 lions against one old zebra? Piss weak.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: acole1
My point was only that deer are not defenseless. They are not aggressive, but they can defend themselves when provoked.

For all practical purposes, deer ARE defenseless against a high-powered rifle.

Maybe if these creeps were hunting deer with just a sharp knife or spear, you might have a point.

took the words right out of my mouth

I wonder how many of these kids grew up thinking that shooting squirrels and birds and leaving them on the ground dead was something cool?

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Here is what hunting is.

Lots of preparations...warm clothes, food, skimpy tent, ammunition, guns, etc all loaded into a truck.

Long drive up to the mountains.

Very long, slow hike through the woods...often times going days without seeing anything to shoot...being extremely cold and patient.

Finally seeing an animal to shoot after days of waiting in the freezing cold and taking careful aim and preparation to shoot it...chances are...you'll miss if it's a long ways away and you'll be screwed. But if you hit it...man that must feel good. I know I'd have a sense of accomplishment.

Do you guys even bother to think about the whole hunting process?

You forgot the next steps.. pose with the animal you just shot as though you killed it out of bravery or self defense .. or EVEN killed it out of absolute necessity?

I think a man could be proud of making a hard decision and killing animals because we have destroyed the habitat for their normal predators.. but to pose with a dead animals body? and we thought native americans were savages??

No, I'm saying people pose with that animal because of all the hard work they put into it. It may not sound like hard work to you, but I challenge YOU to go try and hunt. I challenege you to see if you understand where to go, what to wear, how to be patient and how to keep focus while you get ONE SHOT at a long distance to kill a deer. All that is hard work and people wait all year for the experience...so how in the world could you blame them for posing with it because of all the hard work? It has nothing to do with killing it out of bravery or self-defense...purely hard work.

 

[Dean]

I don't believe in the photo's either, or any sort of trophy. I hunted for one reason.

The love of eating Deer meat. It is tastier than anything out there.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Why do the lions keep killing the poor zebras? Or why do bobcats keep killing those poor little rabbits!? They are no match since those bobcats have big teeth and claws. They're a lot stronger too. Those lions are 'piss weak' because they hunt in groups and target young or weaker zebras. 5 lions against one old zebra? Piss weak.

Are you an animal?

Do those animals have MCDonalds or Black Angus or Qdoba :laugh:

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Here is what hunting is.

Lots of preparations...warm clothes, food, skimpy tent, ammunition, guns, etc all loaded into a truck.

Long drive up to the mountains.

Very long, slow hike through the woods...often times going days without seeing anything to shoot...being extremely cold and patient.

Finally seeing an animal to shoot after days of waiting in the freezing cold and taking careful aim and preparation to shoot it...chances are...you'll miss if it's a long ways away and you'll be screwed. But if you hit it...man that must feel good. I know I'd have a sense of accomplishment.

Do you guys even bother to think about the whole hunting process?

You forgot the next steps.. pose with the animal you just shot as though you killed it out of bravery or self defense .. or EVEN killed it out of absolute necessity?

I think a man could be proud of making a hard decision and killing animals because we have destroyed the habitat for their normal predators.. but to pose with a dead animals body? and we thought native americans were savages??

i tit a necessity? actually yes. ignore the fact that 1-2 deer will feed my family a few months. ignoring the fact many hunters give extra to food shelters etc.

IF you do not keep the herd thinned it will kill the herd. so yes hunting is a necessity.

the poseing for pictures? yes and no. while i do think its silly i understand why.

I am against hunting for the thrill of killing. there are some hunters that will kill one for the rack.

one guy last year cut the head off a huge buck and left the rest to rot. a few of us told the owner of the property about it (it was private land) and they told the guy to never come back. word also got around and he won't be hunting on many private places around here.

many hunters hunt for the meat. and what delicious meat it is..

 

[SlowSpyder]

Do those animals have MCDonalds or Black Angus or Qdoba

So your arguement is hunting is evil because the animals don't have fair odds, but eating meat from a slaughterhouse is ok because the cows have fair odds?

 

[acole1]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: acole1

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: acole1

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Dean

Originally posted by: dahunan
If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Remember that the next time you eat a steak, those steer's were a very easy take.

Do you have an issue with people fishing also?

I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Ever seen a deer attack someone? They are hardly lacking in ability to defend themselvs, provided the chance.

It has happened many times where the hunter will shoot the deer and go to collect it, but it isn't entirely dead and fights back with flailing antlers and hooves... not something I would want to be around.

Fishing must also be bad if hunting is. Fish have NO way of defending themselves... so if you were a REAL fisherman you would dive in the river and catch it in your mouth! (LMAO) People pose with fish too FYI.

I could also claim that people who spend all their time building computers are enormous idiots too. I mean, how stupid is it to build a computer when you can just go online and have one shipping to you, and you don't have to do any work! Or why in the world would anyone play computer games... not like they are hard! Those people are just wasting their lives every time they play a computer game. How manly is that, the computer can't even do what it wants and fight back. It just sits there taking inputs!

Hunting and fishing take skill, patience, and knowledge. Including the knowledge that we are at the top of the food chain.

BTW, I don't think a football knows it's in a sport either.

^^ did the deer go into the city and start attacking humans or did it attack the man who shot it -- you deserve dumbest fvcking reply of the day

THANK YOU! I always wanted that award!!

Now you deserve the award of $500 so you can go to your local county college and take a class in reading comprehension!

People shoot deer for sport, not for defense.

My point was only that deer are not defenseless. They are not aggressive, but they can defend themselves when provoked.

Deer ARE DEFENSELSS AGAINST HIGH POWERED RIFLES or do you disagree with that?

You can shoot it without it attacking you, but there is still a measure of danger when you go collect it.

What is wrong with shooting and animal that can't defend itself anyways?

Also, you might not realize that there is more to hunting than just the kill.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: acole1

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Dean

Originally posted by: dahunan
If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Remember that the next time you eat a steak, those steer's were a very easy take.

Do you have an issue with people fishing also?

I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Ever seen a deer attack someone? They are hardly lacking in ability to defend themselvs, provided the chance.

It has happened many times where the hunter will shoot the deer and go to collect it, but it isn't entirely dead and fights back with flailing antlers and hooves... not something I would want to be around.

Fishing must also be bad if hunting is. Fish have NO way of defending themselves... so if you were a REAL fisherman you would dive in the river and catch it in your mouth! (LMAO) People pose with fish too FYI.

I could also claim that people who spend all their time building computers are enormous idiots too. I mean, how stupid is it to build a computer when you can just go online and have one shipping to you, and you don't have to do any work! Or why in the world would anyone play computer games... not like they are hard! Those people are just wasting their lives every time they play a computer game. How manly is that, the computer can't even do what it wants and fight back. It just sits there taking inputs!

Hunting and fishing take skill, patience, and knowledge. Including the knowledge that we are at the top of the food chain.

BTW, I don't think a football knows it's in a sport either.

Fish are too small of animals to be significant in this argument

 

[K1052]

I'm for anything that reduces the deer population. Their natural preadators are gone.

One of the reasons I used to drive a truck was that the area I lived in was infested with deer and hitting one was merely a matter of time. GMC Sierra 2, Deer 0.

 

[BoomerD]

ROFL! Years back, I was on a big construction job in Wyoming, and they had to bus people into the jobsite, due to a lack of housing in the area. One night, the bus hit a big Bull elk. This Texas ironworker got off the bus and straddled that elk, saying he was planning to cut it's throat and throw in in the luggage compartment under the bus, and said "we gonna eat elk for dinner tonite boys"...about that time, the elk woke up, jumped up, and kicked the crap outta that ironworker, breaking several bones, and generally pwning him before trotting off and jumping over the fence, not to be seen again...so...we thru HIM in the luggage compartment for the ride into town, so he didn't bleed all over "our bus"...That was the "livest" dead elk I've ever seen...

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

I concur.

If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

I just came back to the computer early because I realized I let my anger get to me regarding the idiotic replies from Phoenix86 and yllus...

I apologize for labeling anyone other than them as idiots.. They don't know anything about me other than this thread and felt it within their rights to call me a sissy..


I would have no problem with killing someone to defend myself = sissy?

I would kill an animal if I had to do it in order to survive.. = sissy?

No, you making a big deal about hunting and people taking pride in things they enjoy makes you a sissy. I bet there are things you take pride in I wouldn't understand, but I wouldn't call you out on it. Your time to do with as you please.

Keep pounding away keyboard warrior.

BTW, are you a vegan, or are you a total hypocrite too?