What is it about humans that makes some of us think shooting an animal with a gun is brave or noble or tough

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JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: Mikey
Being proud results from the satisfaction of their excitement, and this excitement of theirs is something that pertains to their interest. We couldn't just tell you that they're proud by killing animals. A large number of people still don't believe humans are animals too. Don't forget that these animals are killed for food. They aren't just shot and left there to rot. Hunting is very popular in the south, but as far as I can remember since I lived there, most people don't kill more then they really need.

I AM NOT A MONKEY *THROWS FECES AT MIKEY*

/SOUTH PARK GARRISON
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Have you ever hunted with a gun? Know how hard/easy it is?


Do you really think my question is knocking the skills of the hunter?

I think I said it before.. shoot a moving plate and then pose with the fragments..

eat the meat.. please.. just don't think you should pose with the dead animal that had no chance to fight back.. how hard is it to understand

I'll take that as a no, and no.

Hunting isn't just about hitting a moving target at 200 yards, it's mostly about HUNTING to find the target. That's where the "hunt" part comes from. You can spend hours, no DAYS in a tree blind and see a couple deer. You may not have a clean shot on them either. You can also stand near a feeder and pick them off, but whatever...

They are taking pride in something they spent time, money, effort, practice, and training on. How hard is that to understand?
 

dahunan

Lifer
Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

I concur.

If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..
 

Dean

Platinum Member
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: dahunan
If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Remember that the next time you eat a steak, those steer's were a very easy take.

Do you have an issue with people fishing also?



 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

I concur.

If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

only if they leave the meat to rott i would agree.


but if someone takes the meat to eat then that is good (well not the deer). Deer meat is some of the best stuf to eat. it is healthy and low on fat.

not to mention for the health of the heard many of the deer do need to be killed. they have very few natural preditors and hunting helps.

i hope i get to go hunting this year. i really want to make some jerky and sausage. but don't think i will be able to
 

krunchykrome

Lifer
Dec 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: Dean
Originally posted by: dahunan
If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Remember that the next time you eat a steak, those steer's were a very easy take.

Do you have an issue with people fishing also?

I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Here in Wisconsin the deer population is so out of control that if hunters did not harvest a portion of the animals even more would die from starvation then if there was no hunting. I think it's more humane to put a bullet through a deer's heart then let it die over weeks/months from starvation.

Also, you know a deer out in the woods has a much better chance then a cow at the slaughterhouse.

 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

I concur.

If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Oh, get over yourself already. Do you realize how asinine your argument is? You might as well argue that green is the prettiest color and anyone that favors blue must be an idiot.

No, the real idiot here is you.
 

dahunan

Lifer
Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

If I had to defend myself I would easily kill you without regret..

IF I had to kill an animal to survive I would do it


 

dahunan

Lifer
Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

I concur.

If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

I just came back to the computer early because I realized I let my anger get to me regarding the idiotic replies from Phoenix86 and yllus...

I apologize for labeling anyone other than them as idiots.. They don't know anything about me other than this thread and felt it within their rights to call me a sissy..


I would have no problem with killing someone to defend myself = sissy?

I would kill an animal if I had to do it in order to survive.. = sissy?



 

BAMAVOO

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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I am sure those same guys are saying, look at that guy waste all his time with that computer. Look at all the energy he is wasting.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

If I had to defend myself I would easily kill you without regret..

IF I had to kill an animal to survive I would do it

wow, get over yourself. you seem very ignorant about hunting. i'm a city slicker who's never hunted and very squeamish about blood/etc. and i think garth gave very good information and argument countering your initial post.
 

dahunan

Lifer
Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

I concur.

If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Oh, get over yourself already. Do you realize how asinine your argument is? You might as well argue that green is the prettiest color and anyone that favors blue must be an idiot.

No, the real idiot here is you.


You, sir, are trying to make the argument something it isn't..

What is it that you really have a problem with in my post?


 

piddlefoot

Senior member
May 11, 2005
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Hunting in a modern world, with things like dairy farms and beef ranches, and places like kentucky chicken with there own chicken farms, meh, the idea of having to hunt for your food in that sence is gone, you dont need to, there is no NEED for it.
l dont understand how some one can believe they have achieved a hunting with skill with a gun, ppfftt, anyone been to africa, theres tribesman in africa that take on lions with a 40 cm lump of wood as there tool or weapon, THATS HUNTING SKILL, you pussies with your guns and compound bows are nothing more that piss weak and skilless.
And oh how brave it is to shoot a deer, defenceless, piss weak bastards, go hunt a us marshal, something on par with a gun, or join the army, animal hunting is piss weak.
And a thing of the past for our modern day survival.
Project farward 100 years, how many animals are there left after you brainless redneck hunters have killed everything off, doesnt make all that much sence, and if mother nature could talk, wouldnt she have a tale to tell.
Ashamed is what we should be, to scare our own planet to the degree we have, utter ignorance is our sin.
Hunters that shoot animals are in my opinion, are piss weak.
 

aidanjm

Lifer
Aug 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Indeed. Cattle farmers don't go to the abattoirs and pose with the cow after it has had a bullet or bolt put through it's head. it's the machismo or macho attitude of those creeps that is truly pathetic. there is something sad & revolting about the way those turds are posing with the beautiful animals they have senselessly slaughtered, acting as if they are "big men" for having used high powered weaponry to take down a defenseless animal.
 

dahunan

Lifer
Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

If I had to defend myself I would easily kill you without regret..

IF I had to kill an animal to survive I would do it

wow, get over yourself. you seem very ignorant about hunting. i'm a city slicker who's never hunted and very squeamish about blood/etc. and i think garth gave very good information and argument countering your initial post.


I just don't think hunters should boast about killing an animal that was far outmatched.. it would almost be like bringing a gun into the ocatgon :laugh:
 

slsmnaz

Diamond Member
Mar 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.

Indeed. Cattle farmers don't go to the abatoirs and pose with the cow after it has had a bullet or bolt put through it's head. it's the machismo or macho attitude of those creeps that is truly pathetic. there is sad & revolting about the way those turds are posing with the beautiful animals they have senselessly slaughtered, acting as if they are "big men" for having used high powered weaponry to take down a defenceless animal.

You have no clue. "Senselessly slaughtered"? What do you think happends to these animals with no hunters? There would be no land for them and they would die of disease or starvation.
 

acole1

Golden Member
Sep 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Dean
Originally posted by: dahunan
If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

Remember that the next time you eat a steak, those steer's were a very easy take.

Do you have an issue with people fishing also?

I dont think he has an issue with killing animals for food. But when hunting for food is different than hunting for sport. I doubt people pose with cows before they slaughter them for steak.


Ever seen a deer attack someone? They are hardly lacking in ability to defend themselvs, provided the chance.

It has happened many times where the hunter will shoot the deer and go to collect it, but it isn't entirely dead and fights back with flailing antlers and hooves... not something I would want to be around.

Fishing must also be bad if hunting is. Fish have NO way of defending themselves... so if you were a REAL fisherman you would dive in the river and catch it in your mouth! (LMAO) People pose with fish too FYI.

I could also claim that people who spend all their time building computers are enormous idiots too. I mean, how stupid is it to build a computer when you can just go online and have one shipping to you, and you don't have to do any work! Or why in the world would anyone play computer games... not like they are hard! Those people are just wasting their lives every time they play a computer game. How manly is that, the computer can't even do what it wants and fight back. It just sits there taking inputs!

Hunting and fishing take skill, patience, and knowledge. Including the knowledge that we are at the top of the food chain.

BTW, I don't think a football knows it's in a sport either.
 

z42

Senior member
Apr 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Have you ever hunted with a gun? Know how hard/easy it is?


Do you really think my question is knocking the skills of the hunter?

I think I said it before.. shoot a moving plate and then pose with the fragments..

eat the meat.. please.. just don't think you should pose with the dead animal that had no chance to fight back.. how hard is it to understand

Im with you DaHunan

I get what DaHunan is saying. I'm surprised that apparently only 4-5 of us have known a guy who thinks he is more "manly" because he kills animals. I eat plenty of meat, and have hunted and killed animals. I did not take any pictures of the trip, or of what I killed. What's the point? Why would I take a picture of a dead animal unless something memorable happened (like the guy knifing the bear)?

I don't take pictures of the meat section of the grocery store, and I don't think that guys who work in a slaughterhouse are more "manly" than anyone else.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: piddlefoot
Hunting in a modern world, with things like dairy farms and beef ranches, and places like kentucky chicken with there own chicken farms, meh, the idea of having to hunt for your food in that sence is gone, you dont need to, there is no NEED for it.
l dont understand how some one can believe they have achieved a hunting with skill with a gun, ppfftt, anyone been to africa, theres tribesman in africa that take on lions with a 40 cm lump of wood as there tool or weapon, THATS HUNTING SKILL, you pussies with your guns and compound bows are nothing more that piss weak and skilless.
And oh how brave it is to shoot a deer, defenceless, piss weak bastards, go hunt a us marshal, something on par with a gun, or join the army, animal hunting is piss weak.
And a thing of the past for our modern day survival.
Project farward 100 years, how many animals are there left after you brainless redneck hunters have killed everything off, doesnt make all that much sence, and if mother nature could talk, wouldnt she have a tale to tell.
Ashamed is what we should be, to scare our own planet to the degree we have, utter ignorance is our sin.
Hunters that shoot animals are in my opinion, are piss weak.

hahahah you are an idiot.

do a search on Chronic Wasting Disease and deer. without hunting it woiuld wipe out the whole heard.

deer do not have enough natural hunters to keep the heard down. with that and the fact we have MORE deer around then ever it leads to a dead heard.

hunters are not going to wipe out any animal. no fishers on the other hand..
 

aidanjm

Lifer
Aug 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: yllus
You really are an enormous sissy.

I concur.

If you spend that much time on killing an animal that cannot defend itself then you are an enormous idiot

Have a good life..

I just came back to the computer early because I realized I let my anger get to me regarding the idiotic replies from Phoenix86 and yllus...

I apologize for labeling anyone other than them as idiots.. They don't know anything about me other than this thread and felt it within their rights to call me a sissy..


I would have no problem with killing someone to defend myself = sissy?

I would kill an animal if I had to do it in order to survive.. = sissy?

the sad thing is people like illyus and those embarrassing retards in the photos (at the web site you linked to) probably see themselves as fine examples of masculinity for having slaughtered those magnificent animals. Perhaps they see their high powered rifles as extensions of their own, no doubt inadequate, penises. is there a word to describe guys who have such a warped idea of what constitutes masculine behavior, that they turn into complete c0ck-heads?
 
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