What is it with the more displacement is better mentality?

[JulesMaximus]

I had some jackoff at work ask me what size my bike was and when I told him 650cc he comes back with a puzzled look and a, "whoa, that's small" comment. Like I suddenly became less of a man because I ride a 650cc bike. He then proceeds to tell me he wants to get a bike but he's going to get a liter bike. I asked him why a liter bike? And he says, "I just like the way they look." I then asked him if he's ever ridden a motorcycle before and he tells me that he has owned quads and then tells me a story of him pulling a wheelie for 5 miles down the 15 freeway and about a friend of his who does stoppies.

Meanwhile, I ride with guys who have all sorts of different bikes from Ducati Sport Classic to a Kawasaki ZX10R to a Suzuki Bandit 1200 and I have no difficulty keeping up with any of them in the twisties on my lowly SV650...and none of them give me shit about my bike. Probably because they realize it's not about the bike but about the rider's ability.

I have another friend who just bought a ZX10R and he says that bike is scary fast, he rode an older GSXR750 prior to this. He never even gets it out of 3rd at 80mph on the freeway. It's just too much bike for street use. This is a guy I respect, unlike the douche I was talking to the other day.

Funny thing is, I've talked to a bunch of guys who ride super sports who have owned the SV and nearly all of them say they wish they never got rid of their SV. Then you see some guy show up at a track day on an SV and destroy guys riding liter bikes. It's easier to have fun pushing a smaller bike to the limit than it is to wrestle with a fast bike trying to find the limit.

I know I probably won't find much sympathy here in the garage because everyone here owns an 8.0L V10 650hp Dodge Viper.

 

[punjabiplaya]

2.3L of fury for me

anyways, just wait for him to tell about his massive crash and you win

EPEEN WARS

 

[Mike Gayner]

LOL you actually believe your SV650 is fast, huh?

 

[JulesMaximus]

2.3L of fury for me

anyways, just wait for him to tell about his massive crash and you win

EPEEN WARS

Hopefully he's signed his organ donor card. Maybe he can still do some good.

 

[JulesMaximus]

LOL you actually believe your SV650 is fast, huh?

I know...pretty gay huh?

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

What kind of track is a sv650 faster than a literbike? Literbikes today probably weigh less than your sv650. Have better suspension, brakes, aerodynamics, better riding position for the track. Even if a guy was slightly slower than you in the corners he'd more than make it up on the straights. The literbike has an equalizer you can't fuck with in the form of 100 more horsepower.

 

[JulesMaximus]

What kind of track is a sv650 faster than a literbike? Literbikes today probably weigh less than your sv650. Have better suspension, brakes, aerodynamics, better riding position for the track. Even if a guy was slightly slower than you in the corners he'd more than make it up on the straights. The literbike has an equalizer you can't fuck with in the form of 100 more horsepower.

Depends on the rider...and there's no shortage of guys who can't corner who ride literbikes.

 

[Mike Gayner]

You seem to be under the impression that you're some kind of ace racer, and every liter rider is an incompetent tool. All else being equal, you SV650 will get pissed all over by both a liter bike and a 600cc supersport. The SV650 isn't and never was a fast bike.

 

[JulesMaximus]

You seem to be under the impression that you're some kind of ace racer, and every liter rider is an incompetent tool. All else being equal, you SV650 will get pissed all over by both a liter bike and a 600cc supersport. The SV650 isn't and never was a fast bike.

It's fast enough for you old man.

 

[Mike Gayner]

Old man?

 

[JulesMaximus]

I never said my bike was fast...just that it's fast enough and in skilled hands it is easily capable of embarrassing lesser riders on better machines.

It is still faster than nearly any street legal car.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Old man?

It made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.

 

[freegeeks]

love your tags :thumbsup:

and about the sympathy thing, you have my support!!!

JulesMaximus for Moderator

 

[HAL9000]

People think bigger numbers are better.

 

[Fenixgoon]

i don't know why gayner bothers to troll you jules...

for 99% of riders, the rider will matter more than the bike. i suppose when you get to motoGP then your bike actually matters, in combination with rider ability.

 

[Mike Gayner]

I never said my bike was fast...just that it's fast enough and in skilled hands it is easily capable of embarrassing lesser riders on better machines.

It is still faster than nearly any street legal car.

Yeah but you get an equally skilled rider (and I know you're not that good - isn't this only your second bike?) and put them in a litre bike, and they will embarrass the hell out of anyone dumb enough to think their SV650 is fast.

The fact is that all else being equal, a 600cc or 1000cc sport bike will put your SV650 to shame.

 

[essasin]

Most riders couldn't push a 250cc to its limits on a track.

 

[Mike Gayner]

Most riders couldn't push a 250cc to its limits on a track.

What has pushing a bike to its limit got to do with anything? If you push a 250cc to within 80% of its limit, it's still going to be barely faster than a canter. A 1000cc bike within 50% of its limit will still pass the 250 like it's standing still.

 

[Fenixgoon]

What has pushing a bike to its limit got to do with anything? If you push a 250cc to within 80% of its limit, it's still going to be barely faster than a canter. A 1000cc bike within 50% of its limit will still pass the 250 like it's standing still.

wrong. watch peter lenz videos on youtube. he ran on a 125cc honda with 22hp (IIRC) and he absolutely crushed guys on 600s.

quit trolling, buy your 600cc racebike, and get yourself killed already.

 

[Mike Gayner]

wrong. watch peter lenz videos on youtube. he ran on a 125cc honda with 22hp (IIRC) and he absolutely crushed guys on 600s.

quit trolling, buy your 600cc racebike, and get yourself killed already.

So you're trying to prove that displacement doesn't matter by comparing a professional racer to amateurs? As I said above, all else being equal, the larger sports bikes will urinate over a SV650, period. Apparently you don't understand the term "all else being equal".

 

[BoberFett]

There's also a difference between a 650 v-twin and an 600 inline 4. Corners are all about rider skill, but on the straightaways for pure speed a twin simply can't touch a 4 cylinder.

 

[Fenixgoon]

So you're trying to prove that displacement doesn't matter by comparing a professional racer to amateurs? As I said above, all else being equal, the larger sports bikes will urinate over a SV650, period. Apparently you don't understand the term "all else being equal".

i quoted your "50% skill on a liter bike vs. 100% skill on a 250cc" to show that rider skill matters much more.

 

[Mike Gayner]

i quoted your "50% skill on a liter bike vs. 100% skill on a 250cc" to show that rider skill matters much more.

Go back and read what I wrote, this time more carefully.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Most riders couldn't push a 250cc to its limits on a track.

What has pushing a bike to its limit got to do with anything? If you push a 250cc to within 80% of its limit, it's still going to be barely faster than a canter. A 1000cc bike within 50% of its limit will still pass the 250 like it's standing still.

Go back and read what I wrote, this time more carefully.

how many quotes back shall i go?

You seem to be under the impression that you're some kind of ace racer, and every liter rider is an incompetent tool. All else being equal, you SV650 will get pissed all over by both a liter bike and a 600cc supersport. The SV650 isn't and never was a fast bike.

where did jules say he's a pro racer, mr valentino rossi jr? :roll: no shit the SV will get beaten by a race bike with identically skilled riders. because they are...*drumroll* race bikes, meant for a track. but the real world isn't like that. everyone but you seems to be acknowledging that fact.

 

[Throckmorton]

1L bikes look different from 650cc ones??