what is minimum upgrade from Pentium III needed to gain vast improvement in performance

[klyap]

hi,

what is like the minimum upgrade from Pentium III needed if I want to gain vast improvement in performance on my PC?

thanks!

 

[Spikesoldier]

how fast is your pentium III?

 

[CaptnKirk]

That was a cold reply Tex, to a fellow Texan. Here are two that are even colder:

1) minimum upgrade for the P-III is fill the case with concrete, and use it as a door-stop.
2) anyones discarded commodore 64.

No, seriously - What is your rig, and where do you want it to go. You are limited by what box-factory computers will accept, and may just have to do a salvage job with the best of what you've got. SIMMS are out DIMMS are in. ISA ia out PCI is in. The new P-4's are kickers, but the Mobo & CPU are costly. AMD Pals (XP1600+) with a decent Mobo can be had for under $120, but you may need a PWR SPLY. Your RAM may not play up on a new Mobo, so you're gonna need DDR. You might just want to build a new system, and LAN slave your P-III to it on a network ( eg: Dial-up 56K V.92 & NIC to link the two )

Revenge is a dish best served cold - Kahn
I am not a crook - Nixon
I am - dubya

 

[BuddyAtBzboyz]

Yeah just get a decent motheboard and cheap athlon chip for a good price. Upgrading to ddr would be nice but its really costly right now. I would use the sdr you have for now (meaning get a board tha supports ddr and sdr like the ECS K7S5A) then get ddr when the prices go back down.

 

[shathal]

In addition / recap of the question's that have been asked, here's some more:

1: What you got (has been asked) at the moment?
2: How much cash you got to spend exactly?
3: What do you want to do with it (gaming / use it for the XP fishtank-screensaver, etc.)?

4: How much "noticable" increase do you want?

I.e.: DO you really want a Radeon 9700 Pro 256 MB with the soon-to-come 2.8 GHz P4's? Or will something less do the trick?

You can get a "noticable" increase by "simply" getting yourself a "new" system with top-of-the-range components (be it Athlon or P4), the question is - WHAT do you WANT? What do you NEED? How much money can you afford to SPEND?

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- Shathal.

 

[Acanthus]

if you are sticking with intel you would want a 2.0a or faster CPU, and DDR to see increased speed across the board. Its about a $370 upgrade after september 1st

if you are willing to go AMD an athlon 2000+ with an Nforce 2 motherboard (coming soon) and 2x256MB of DDR will be AWESOME price-perfomance.

 

[dude]

I wouldn't hold my breath with the nforce2. For now, get a cheap AMD XP board and cpu and use whatever old components you can salvage. You might make do with your old power supply, but if not, just order one if it doesn't get the job done. If it's flaky, just underclock your processor until the new power supply comes in.

Check out pricewatch.com The athlon xp processor prices have dropped significantly on some higher end chips. Maybe that's your target?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Word of caution here: If this unit is one of the 'Box-faxtory' computers (Dell,IBM,COW,Etc.) there is some equipment like the power supply or mother moart that do not just swap out. You can add a PCI or obsolete ISA board to upgrade some components, but you can't just go the local Fry's or Comp or Beast and get a motherboard that will work. Some you can replace the Pwr Sply & some you can't. They want you locked to buying from them at their prices, and sometimes just want to sell you a new unit without going the less expensive upgrade route. WHAT SYSTEM ARE YOU WORKIN WITH ! You may have to get a case and just salvage drives & spare parts.

 

[apoppin]

Don't you just love it when someone posts a question and then doesn't bother to check the answers or reply to the questions?

Well, letsee . . . the Maximum PIII is 1.0Ghz . . . therefore a (minimum priced) P4 1.6A O/C'd to 2.2-2.4 Ghz will give a "vast" improvement in performance (and for cheap, too).

EDIT: Was this a trick question? What did I win?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

EDIT: Was this a trick question? What did I win?

You get a cookie......happy?

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: apoppin
Don't you just love it when someone posts a question and then doesn't bother to check the answers or reply to the questions?

Well, letsee . . . the Maximum PIII is 1.0Ghz . . . therefore a (minimum priced) P4 1.6A O/C'd to 2.2-2.4 Ghz will give a "vast" improvement in performance (and for cheap, too).

EDIT: Was this a trick question? What did I win?

Exactly what I did in my last upgrade, with minimal costs.

Now my OC'd 1.6A is doing 2.1, no problems whatsoever. FAST, FAST, FAST!

 

[ShinSa]

I think this guy forgot about his post.

O wells. Heres my input.

You can get a Xp1600, KT266A board, PNY 256 MB ddr and a GC68 for around 200bux.

This is the most bang for bux alternative and will parrallel any P4 upgrade costing near $300-$400.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ShinSa
I think this guy forgot about his post.

How do you forget when you get an answer only 4 minutes later?
He was only active 2 days and the above was his last post.

You can get a Xp1600, KT266A board, PNY 256 MB ddr and a GC68 for around 200bux.
This is the most bang for bux alternative and will parrallel any P4 upgrade costing near $300-$400.

And a O/C'd 1.6 P4 will beat the heck out of an XP1600, performancewise.


EDIT: Thanks for the cookie.

EDITED: Choice of 3 italicized words so as not to "offend" our "sensitive" members.

 

[ShinSa]

Lets not start another AMD/INTEL war thread but I never said the XP1600+ wasnt overclockable.

Infact that's why I specifically recommended that chip in the first place.

apoppin, do you have something against me??

I never said anything to offend anyone and neither should you.

your disparaging remarks are less than interesting.

If you had a bad day at work, go kick your dog.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ShinSa
Lets not start another AMD/INTEL war thread but I never said the XP1600+ wasnt overclockable.
Infact that's why I specifically recommended that chip in the first place.
apoppin, do you have something against me??
I never said anything to offend anyone and neither should you.
your disparaging remarks are less than interesting.
If you had a bad day at work, go kick your dog.

Oooh, someone is sensitive. Letsee what YOU said to get a well-deserved response:

This is the most bang for bux alternative and will parrallel any P4 upgrade costing near $300-$400.

The XP1600 is (currently) nowhere near as o/c'lockable as the P4 1.6Ghz (2.4Ghz in many instances) and therefore is not necessarily the "most bang for bux".

If you were offended by my choice of words, well then I am sorry to offend your sensitive nature . . . since I do not know you and could not have anything "against" you.

I did not realize that my "disparaging remarks" would be so offensive to an AMD fan. The fact of the matter is - CURRENTLY - the 1.6A P4 is the most O/C'able CPU - no "war" here - even former AMD fanboys have admittedly gone over/back to the "dark side" to take advantage of this.

Go beat your own dog.

 

[ShinSa]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: ShinSa
Lets not start another AMD/INTEL war thread but I never said the XP1600+ wasnt overclockable.
Infact that's why I specifically recommended that chip in the first place.
apoppin, do you have something against me??
I never said anything to offend anyone and neither should you.
your disparaging remarks are less than interesting.
If you had a bad day at work, go kick your dog.

Oooh, someone is sensitive. Letsee what YOU said to get a well-deserved response:

This is the most bang for bux alternative and will parrallel any P4 upgrade costing near $300-$400.

The XP1600 is (currently) nowhere near as o/c'lockable as the P4 1.6Ghz (2.4Ghz in many instances) and therefore is not necessarily the "most bang for bux".

If you were offended by my choice of words, well then I am sorry to offend your sensitive nature . . . since I do not know you and could not have anything "against" you.

I did not realize that my "disparaging remarks" would be so offensive to an AMD fan. The fact of the matter is - CURRENTLY - the 1.6A P4 is the most O/C'able CPU - no "war" here - even former AMD fanboys have admittedly gone over/back to the "dark side" to take advantage of this.

Go beat your own dog.

apoppin, I dont care what fan you are, and I sure dont give a crap about what computer you run.

If you dont think XP1600+ is more overclockable than 1.6A, then stick with what you like.

I wish no part in your obtuse argument.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ShinSa
apoppin, I dont care what fan you are, and I sure dont give a crap about what computer you run.

If you dont think XP1600+ is more overclockable than 1.6A, then stick with what you like.

I wish no part in your obtuse argument.

You have NO argument whatsoever. The fact is the P4 1.6A is highly o/c'able; the XP1600 is minimally so. If you can show otherwise, enlighten us.

And I have neither CPU.

 

[dexvx]

Context, context!

If this guy is running a p4-450 with 64MB pc100 ram, he'd see a difference with just about any current setup.

If this guy is running a dual Tualatin at 1.6Ghz with DDR SDram, I doubt he'll see a difference with anything but the more expensive setups.

and btw, from reports from people in this and other forums, the new 1600+ XP overclock to 166FSB (2100+) rather easily.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: dexvx
Context, context!

If this guy is running a p4-450 with 64MB pc100 ram, he'd see a difference with just about any current setup.

If this guy is running a dual Tualatin at 1.6Ghz with DDR SDram, I doubt he'll see a difference with anything but the more expensive setups.

and btw, from reports from people in this and other forums, the new 1600+ XP overclock to 166FSB (2100+) rather easily.

We know about "context" - the original poster didn't reply.

I was very careful in my wording - the older XP's didn't O/C at all well and the newer ones are reporting XP2000 levels. However, that is still far short of the "better" 1.6A O/Cs to 2.4Ghz (which is where the XP2400 is finally at - and that is not "budget").

I stand by my original statement that "the O/C'd 1.6A beats the cr@p out of an O/C'd XP1600 performance wise." Not a flame - just a statement of fact that a certain AMD fanboy objected to. Too bad.