What is religion.

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

uhh Science is about discovering the truth where as Religion is about making up it's own truth.

No, true religion is about discovering the truth. The truth about existence, about purpose, about human nature. Science is very useful, but it cannot delve into the human mind (the brain, yes, but mind =/= brain), nor philosophies of life.

You are right that some religions and teachings are about making stuff up, but that applies to science, as well. You think that every single thing ever taught in science over the millenia has been true? You don't even have to look that far back to see how many bogus and disproven theories have come and gone.

This is insanity, really. What evidence have you given that shows the mind is something more than simple brain activity? Or better yet, if you want to get into the philosophical bullshit of the argument, what makes us humans and our minds something more, while ants and rats are not?

Have you ever heard the phrase "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"?

Ideas are fine, but that's not what religion is built on. It's built on bullshit fairytales, stories and fear, and then used to control people. When ideas become backed up by evidence and then form theories, they are then in the realm of science and cannot be easily abused, and will change based on new evidence and discoveries. ANY time an idea that perhaps was even once ridiculed gains traction through findings and evidence, it is then scientific to investigate said idea. Science can and will, given time, give you the answers you seek. Religion will not, faith will not, belief will not, and philosophy will not.

*disgust*

There is no truth in religion, only "Truth" with a capital "T", which is an illegitimate word. There is only facts and fiction, we just need to figure out the facts and stop having faith in fiction.

Some of the stories are relevant. Ie the Good Samaritan. But is this a real story? The moral of the story is good, but the story never actually took place. It is Fiction

Religion = Fiction

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
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Wtf?
Edit: explain your point better?

While you're waiting for clarification, this might help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman

wow that article hurts my brain. Could you put it in layman terms?

/Stupid academic babble = strawman?

Nope. You really need to work through it on your own. Having a firm grasp on this will enhance your experience here on atforums since this strawman tactic is used quite often. Many people aren't even aware they're using it. After several readings, it will start to become clear to you and you'll feel better about having worked through it yourself rather than someone else doing the work for you. If a word is unfamiliar, look it up. The fallacies of relevance at the bottom are quite interesting also. If one is perplexing, skip it and try another. Don't be put off by the unfamiliar terminology. They're describing stuff, some of which, I bet you already know.

Don't dis it - conquer it.

 

[Sea Moose]

I try my best to get my message across, i am a dumb tradesman, sorry if i dont understand all the english delivery thingos.

 

[Sea Moose]

Is anyone gonna defend poor ole religion?