What is the Best OC proc for the money right now

[inveterate]

SUggestions

Not neccesarily dual core, but anything that can hit 2.4ghz above,,

 

[996GT2]

These are probably the "best"

Single Core:
Opteron 144/146

Dual Core:
Athlon X2 3800+ Manchester (2006 model)
Opteron 165/170

If money is no problem and you have phase change cooling and want to hit 4+ GHz
Athlon FX55/57/60 (with unlocked multi you can go really high)

Though these are what are considered to be the "best", pretty much all new S939 AMD desktop processors will break 2.4 GHz on a decent board. Even the 1.8 GHz 3000+ can do it without too much difficulty.

 

[inveterate]

how do i know if the x2 3800 is manchester 2006 instead of a diff year. and what will it OC to

 

[996GT2]

Well, that's the shady part. You don't know what you will get if you buy it from Newegg or Monarch, so if you really wanted one you could get one off eBay if the seller posts pics of its manufacture date
The 2006 Manchester X2s will OC very high on air cooling and low volts; on XtremeSystems' (not sure if thats the site) OC database, the 3800+ 06 models are routinely doing more than 2.7 GHz on under 1.5V.
With a good cooler (i.e. XP120 or Ninja),some luck, and a good board, you should hit 2.8 or even more on a 2006 3800+.

 

[Kakumba]

yup, extremesystems.org is a good place to check out. a few of them have hit the 4 GHz with FX series chips. and agree totally with the suggestions.

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: inveterate
how do i know if the x2 3800 is manchester 2006 instead of a diff year. and what will it OC to

if you buy a 3800+ manchester right now, you WILL get a 060X processor. X = 1-9.

newegg, zzf, monarch, mwave are all major distributors that move through stock quickly.

seemsl ike the 3800+ manchester are doing 2.8 to 3.0 on air.

the newer CACJE opterons (single core) are also good as well.

the dualcore opteron to get was the ccbwe 0550vpmw or ccb1e 0550vpmw but these are almost impossible to find these days. the 0550upmw seem to be good as well but not as consistent as the vpmw.

 

[inveterate]

can i get a link to this 2006 manchester lol "manchester sounds like gay pr0n doesn't it

 

[Mogadon]

Check out Flickerdown, Dave will probably be able to help you and you'll be able to know which stepping you're getting.

Tankguyz will tell you the stepping before you decide to buy too.

Here's an '06 X2 3800 at tankguys.

 

[TankGuys]

Just an FYI: If you're after a 144, we'll likely have a sweet deal on them starting tonight

 

[inveterate]

what will the 144/146 likely go up to.. as in have a 85% shot at

 

[Mogadon]

with a 146 and the right stepping i'd say you have an 85% chance at hitting 2.8GHz, with your mobo you'd probably wouldn't have many problems getting a 144 up there too.

 

[996GT2]

144 will probably hit up to 2.8 on air. 146 will hit 3.2 at the top end of air cooling, but 3 GHz is more likely.

 

[inveterate]

is the one sold on Tank right now the right stepping that you guys are talking about
http://www.tankguys.biz/opteron-cache-p-1420.html

 

[996GT2]

Yeah, the CACJE they have there is pretty good at OCing.

 

[inveterate]

Ok so this is the one that MIGHT hit 2.9

 

[996GT2]

Yeah, if you have a good cooler or water cooling. If you don't and want to hit 2.9, go get an TR XP120 or Scythe Ninja with a high-output Panaflo or Delta fan before you start. That way, you can push the voltages >1.6 and still keep the proc from overheating.

 

[996GT2]

Here you go, just one example form DFI forums:
2.87 GHz
I remember some Italian guy hit 3.15 on his CACJE 146 a while back

DFI LANPARTY nF4 Ultra-D - 704-2bta

AMD Opteron 146 CACJE 0603FPMW

2x1GB Mushkin Black (uccc)

EVGA 7800GT 256MB, 505/1170

Maxtor 160GB IDE hdd

Sony DVD Burner

OCZ PowerStream OCZ520ADJ ATX 520W Power Supply





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Genie BIOS Settings:

FSB Bus Frequency - 287
LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio - AUTO
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - 10
PCI eXpress Frequency - 100Mhz

CPU VID StartUp Value - Autov

CPU VID Control - 1.300v
CPU VID Special Control - Above VID * 113%
LDT Voltage Control - 1.20v
Chip Set Voltage Control - 1.50v
DRAM Voltage Control - 2.50v

DRAM Configuration Settings:

DRAM Frequency Set - 180=RAM/FSB:09/10
Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable
CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 04 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 08 Bus Clocks
Row precharge time (Trp) - 03 Bus Clocks
Row Cycle time (Trc) - 07 Bus Clocks
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 16 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 01 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr) - 03 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 01 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 03 Bus Clocks
Refresh Period (Tref) - 3120 Cycles
Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - Auto
DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled

DQS Skew Control - Auto
DQS Skew Value - 0
DRAM Drive Strength - normal 3
DRAM Data Drive Strength - Level 2
Max Async Latency - Auto
DRAM Response Time - Normal
Read Preamble Time - 6.0 Nano Seconds
IdleCycle Limit - 256 Cycles
Dynamic Counter - Disable
R/W Queue Bypass - 16 x
Bypass Max - 06 x
32 Byte Granularity - Disable(4 Bursts)

 

[Mogadon]

There's plenty of examples around here of people hitting between 2.8-3GHz on air.

I imagine if I had my chip running in a lanparty or AN32 it would probably do 3GHz, as it is I can boot into windows upto around 3.1GHz, it's just not stable even at 1.65V.

 

[n7]

I'd lean toward the X2 3800+ E4 (2006 ones of course).

Usually cheaper (in Canada at least), & faster at stock if you get a bum OCer.

 

[starwars7]

what opteron 165 steppings are selling right now?

 

[VERTIGGO]

mine is ccb1e 0550 vpmw, but i got it in Feb.

 

[starwars7]

Originally posted by: VERTIGGO
mine is ccb1e 0550 vpmw, but i got it in Feb.

Hummm, I wonder what I'll end up with. I purchased mine via zipzoom on Tuesday of last week, and its still in transit to me, so I guess I find out soon.

Hope that the new ones get a ok OC

 

[xgunnas32]

Originally posted by: 996GT2
These are probably the "best"

Single Core:
Opteron 144/146

Dual Core:
Athlon X2 3800+ Manchester (2006 model)
Opteron 165/170

If money is no problem and you have phase change cooling and want to hit 4+ GHz
Athlon FX55/57/60 (with unlocked multi you can go really high)

Though these are what are considered to be the "best", pretty much all new S939 AMD desktop processors will break 2.4 GHz on a decent board. Even the 1.8 GHz 3000+ can do it without too much difficulty.

4ghz, what are u talking about, even with phase besides multis not a problem if u know what ur doing, but the cpus u provided are pretty much correct

 

[996GT2]

Originally posted by: xgunnas32

Originally posted by: 996GT2
These are probably the "best"

Single Core:
Opteron 144/146

Dual Core:
Athlon X2 3800+ Manchester (2006 model)
Opteron 165/170

If money is no problem and you have phase change cooling and want to hit 4+ GHz
Athlon FX55/57/60 (with unlocked multi you can go really high)

Though these are what are considered to be the "best", pretty much all new S939 AMD desktop processors will break 2.4 GHz on a decent board. Even the 1.8 GHz 3000+ can do it without too much difficulty.

4ghz, what are u talking about, even with phase besides multis not a problem if u know what ur doing, but the cpus u provided are pretty much correct

I'm talking about those guys that go for the SuperPi records that set their HTT lower and set their Multipliers high to get amazing speeds with phase change or liquid nitrongen cooling...I know it's grossly impractical-meant more as a joke than anything, which is why I put the wink in

 

[inveterate]

Ummm ok,, so would u reccomend ordering from the Tank dude the opteron 146,, OR EGG or ZZF....
And what does the "IDK what this is suprise me" option do for the drag down menu,, Like is it really a suprise,, or just a joke button