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Scarpozzi

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The inside of the place is always decorated like a hotel lobby...all ornate. They have decent bread and lots of Cheesecake variety. That attracts people who want atmosphere and carbs. As far as the rest of it goes, you're basically taking the same chances you do with any chain restaurant. I personally don't like CF because prices are too high and there are typically other places I'd rather eat nearby since they tend to build CF in the middle of busy/trendy areas...
 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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It's not an AT specific hate, there's just a couple very vocal haters here. Just like how vegetarians will let you know they're vegetarians... chipotle haters always seem to have to work how much they hate chipotle when they can. Just like this one, and I wasn't at all surprised who said they hated chipotle first.
There was a really good local burrito place where I went to college. They would take all the meat and veggies you wanted in your burrito and toss them on the grill before wrapping them up. They had a few signature sauces that were spicy, amazing and won a lot of awards....but alas, since it was a small business with one owner, it didn't last.

What kills me about Chipotle is that they had some problems in their supply chain sourcing that hurt their image. That's really sad because you know that isn't something anyone wants. It could happen to any company(and typically does) when they are sourcing food from so many places that's not frozen or processed. The few times I've eaten at Chipotle, it was good and I enjoyed it. Around here though, there aren't any locations and I've only got a few competitors to choose from.

A few years back, 3 people in the town I lived in died because they ate at a national seafood chain. I have no doubt there was some kind of refrigeration issue to blame for their deaths. Stuff happens. It's a risk we all take when we eat in restaurants.
 

Loop2kil

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Mar 28, 2004
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Basically if the wait for a table and service is going to be this long I will never return which was the case the time I frequented a CF. I want to be in and out of ALL dining experiences within an hour or an hour and half. Any longer than that and it's a waste of time, it's just food not an event I want to never end.

We tend to go to ethnic based restaurants (Mexican, Thai, Japanese) more often because the service is better and faster. We are usually in and out in under an hour and lets me get on with my day.
 

kstu

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Feb 23, 2004
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They have some shrimp sandwich that comes in at almost 2700 mg sodium.
 

ioni

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Aug 3, 2009
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Not a big cheesecake fan so can't judge their quality there.
You're wrong. Well, sort of. I thought I didn't like cheesecake either, but their variations are amazing. They also have amazing non-cheesecake cake. Food's pretty good too. Fried mac&cheese balls are awesome.
 
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ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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They have some shrimp sandwich that comes in at almost 2700 mg sodium.

So? Single package of instant ramen noodle like Shin Ramyun has over 2300 mg sodium. And many people eat two packs at a time. How often are you eating the shrimp sandwich? Millions of asians eat instant ramen almost everyday with no ill effect.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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ill never understand the Chipolte hate on here.

I Yelp Chipotle's in my area and half of them have 100+ reviews with 2 1/2 star average. And the rest max at 3 stars. Outside of Buffalo Wild Wings I can't think of a worse place to eat. At least BWW has beer.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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There's an inverse proportionality between hot waitresses and food quality. The hotter the waitresses the worse the food.



Because Chipotle sucks. Fast food Mexican should be fast, spicy and cheap. Chiptole isn't any of those things, it's rice and beans with delusions of grandeur.

Don't know what you're smoking, but Chipotle is always fast. Considering how there is often a rather deep line, nearly every one I go through is fast and efficient.
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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Had a few gift cards there once and went to go eat. Had a steak. It sucked. Would never pay my own money for it.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I think in general I am flummoxed by the popularity of pretty must most large sit-down chain restaurants out there. They generally all suck. There is a tipping point at where you have too many restaurants and have to sacrifice quality for consistency, and then you fuck it all up. It's probably easier in fast casual places. I mean shake shack has it down pat and they have a number of locations. I like Jersey Mike's subs also, but have only been to three of their joints. Even though Shake Shack is better, I always had a good experience at an In n Out when I traveled to the west coast.

Once in a while I guess you may crave crap. I still have a soft spot in my heart every few months for a few soft taco supremes at Taco Bell. But around me to go to a sit down restaurant there are too many other options than to go to a TGIF, Olive Garden, Cheesecake Factory, Outback, Red Lobster or what have you. I haven't been to one of those in many many years, except once or twice when a date out in the burbs requested we meet at one of those places. For drinks, not dinner.
 

zinfamous

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So? Single package of instant ramen noodle like Shin Ramyun has over 2300 mg sodium. And many people eat two packs at a time. How often are you eating the shrimp sandwich? Millions of asians eat instant ramen almost everyday with no ill effect.

Eh, not really. Have you ever heard of TOFI? It means Thin-on-the-Outside, Fat-on-the-Inside. Basically describes one of our more unheralded world health crises of diets that tend to render the consumer just as unhealthy as a visibly overweight diabetic.

Granted, This probably isn't about salt, but I've read that typical Asian diets that are overloaded with empty and useless rice and noodles (starchy sugars) in nearly every meal, multiple times per day, tends to claim an unbalanced share of TOFI victims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFI
 

MustISO

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Way back when it was pretty good. If you happen to have a well run store then it can be pretty good. There's a lot of generic food on the menu but for a chain they can do a decent job on some dishes. My in-laws like it so we eat there since our meals are free. Two of the stores near us have gone way down hill but one is still pretty good. Haven't had a dessert there in probably 3 or 4 years but I see plenty of people who eat a massive slice of cheesecake after downing a 2400 calorie meal.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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have gone a few times to Cheesecake Factory.
Only time I have been there when it was busy, was on Mothers day.

Otherwise, I've taken my woman there and her mom and more or less we get in with no line or no wait.

Food is ok, not great, not bad.
The cheesecakes are good.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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ill never understand the Chipolte hate on here.
Because it just doesn't taste good. I'd love take it if it was even more expensive but actually good. Everything they have is very bland which is why you never see Chipotle in the the 'hood near real Mexican places. It's always in nicer areas with people that like bland foods.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I think in general I am flummoxed by the popularity of pretty must most large sit-down chain restaurants out there. They generally all suck. There is a tipping point at where you have too many restaurants and have to sacrifice quality for consistency, and then you fuck it all up. It's probably easier in fast casual places. I mean shake shack has it down pat and they have a number of locations. I like Jersey Mike's subs also, but have only been to three of their joints. Even though Shake Shack is better, I always had a good experience at an In n Out when I traveled to the west coast.

Once in a while I guess you may crave crap. I still have a soft spot in my heart every few months for a few soft taco supremes at Taco Bell. But around me to go to a sit down restaurant there are too many other options than to go to a TGIF, Olive Garden, Cheesecake Factory, Outback, Red Lobster or what have you. I haven't been to one of those in many many years, except once or twice when a date out in the burbs requested we meet at one of those places. For drinks, not dinner.

Well, here's the thing:

--dependability from faceless mall to faceless mall when traveling
--family

We have a very popular model in this country when it comes to dining and shopping: we want the exact same experience in city x that we had in city c. No matter how much we claim otherwise, we like to know what we are getting into when visiting new and strange places. There is much to be said about trying new and unusual things, but there is also risk involved of having a terrible experience. If you ate at Cheesecake Factory in your hometown of St Paul a few times and deemed it, at least, satisfactory, then there is a high chance that, when traveling to some other town over a weekend and confronted with unknown choices and cheesecake factory, you will probably choose Cheesecake Factory, because you at least know that you won't be disappointed. This is why all of our stores and restaurants are the same. We like to feel that we are somewhere else, even when we aren't.

Also, all of these places are generally family friendly as they tolerate such diners, and have kid-friendly options on their menus. When you have kids in tow, that prefer bland and boring crap, and can typically be loud and obnoxious, you gravitate towards such places that will make the experience the most tolerable for you. Small cafe or fancy restaurants generally aren't family friendly.
 

ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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Eh, not really. Have you ever heard of TOFI? It means Thin-on-the-Outside, Fat-on-the-Inside. Basically describes one of our more unheralded world health crises of diets that tend to render the consumer just as unhealthy as a visibly overweight diabetic.

Granted, This probably isn't about salt, but I've read that typical Asian diets that are overloaded with empty and useless rice and noodles (starchy sugars) in nearly every meal, multiple times per day, tends to claim an unbalanced share of TOFI victims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFI

My mom spent a week in hospital ICU and almost died last year because of hyponatremia. I never knew how important sodium was to the body. I'm a fan of eating whatever you like. Life is short.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Because it just doesn't taste good. I'd love take it if it was even more expensive but actually good. Everything they have is very bland which is why you never see Chipotle in the the 'hood near real Mexican places. It's always in nicer areas with people that like bland foods.

Hate to break this to you, but traditional Mexican food--especially the cheap stuff you find in "the hood," is famously bland. I'm sorry, but a real burrito that is nothing but fried meat, cheese, and beans is not something that is ever going to be brimming over with complex flavor. Or you guys are just lying to yourselves for no good reason.
 
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AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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Because it just doesn't taste good. I'd love take it if it was even more expensive but actually good. Everything they have is very bland which is why you never see Chipotle in the the 'hood near real Mexican places. It's always in nicer areas with people that like bland foods.

I got food poisoning twice from Chipotle so that's my reason for not going there again.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Because it just doesn't taste good. I'd love take it if it was even more expensive but actually good. Everything they have is very bland which is why you never see Chipotle in the the 'hood near real Mexican places. It's always in nicer areas with people that like bland foods.

i like it and i live in Denver with world class mexican food joints all over the place. When travel for work to the South-East or Chicago, im always asked if i like mexican i should go to "X" just down the road.... i did that advice once in North Carolina and it was terrible. talk about bland.

i find it funny when people in other states always recommend a mexican joint.
 

Stopsignhank

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Mar 1, 2014
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Hell I will admit it, I like the food at Cheesecake Factory. I won't wait an hour for it, but yeah I like it.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Well, here's the thing:

--dependability from faceless mall to faceless mall when traveling
--family

We have a very popular model in this country when it comes to dining and shopping: we want the exact same experience in city x that we had in city c. No matter how much we claim otherwise, we like to know what we are getting into when visiting new and strange places. There is much to be said about trying new and unusual things, but there is also risk involved of having a terrible experience. If you ate at Cheesecake Factory in your hometown of St Paul a few times and deemed it, at least, satisfactory, then there is a high chance that, when traveling to some other town over a weekend and confronted with unknown choices and cheesecake factory, you will probably choose Cheesecake Factory, because you at least know that you won't be disappointed. This is why all of our stores and restaurants are the same. We like to feel that we are somewhere else, even when we aren't.

Also, all of these places are generally family friendly as they tolerate such diners, and have kid-friendly options on their menus. When you have kids in tow, that prefer bland and boring crap, and can typically be loud and obnoxious, you gravitate towards such places that will make the experience the most tolerable for you. Small cafe or fancy restaurants generally aren't family friendly.

I appreciate the consistency thing which is why I referenced it, but why settle for something consistently mediocre or bad when you could possibly eat something good or great. Consistency is fine if it's very good, but not when it isn't. If you lived in the right area, try something new or different - you may have some misses but you'll have plenty of hits as well. I'm not saying trying a new restaurant out everytime you venture out - although you could do that here in NYC - but experiment. Try different dishes when you go to new places the next time you go back.

I get the kid-friendly thing, there is a very good restaurant close to my sisters I've been to but she is loathe to go as they are totally not kid friendly. But vote with your dollars and see if that local restaurant changes its tune. If not, move on, there are other options.

Brand recognition is a big deal, in this country and others. I was just a teenager but I really loved seafood but really wanted to go to Red Lobster. What the fuck did I know about Red Lobster, except that its brand had been implanted into my brain. The food sucked big time. Never been back since.

Support small business, eat out at a local restaurant.
 
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