What is the differances between the BSDs

RedBeard0531

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There are lots of threads about the differant flavors of linux, bun none discusing the BSDs. Try to keep this positive with only negative comparasins between the BSDs. It would be good to get info on speed, stability, security, software/harware compatability, package management, ease/power of install, quality of docs, and recomended user level. feel free to include an os that is based on bsd, but doesnt have it in it's name(darwin/macOS X is the only one that comes to mind, but i no there are others).
 

LiLithTecH

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Here's my vote.

BeOS.

Running it on a Dual Pentium Pro 200 (512k cache) with 512 meg ram.

Haven't really any issues with it other then locating newer drivers for later video cards
and various controllers.

Originally installed to see what the hype was for and actually liked it.

The audio handling on the OS blows Windows away.

Recommended user level? ALMOST MINDLESS.

 

foocoding

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I've used all the BSD's, and I must say, OpenBSD is my favorite.

It's super fast, super stable, and it just feels complete. I had problems with netbsd in terms of libraries and such, it was frustrating when packages would install then not work. FreeBSD is just awesome as well, it has the largest number of packages compared to the other BSD's. Here's how I see it:

FreeBSD: Most packages, thus, most compatible software. Good for the all around user.
NetBSD: Super portable. What architecture has NetBSD NOT been ported to?
OpenBSD: Amazingly secure. Most secure OS out there (apparently).

I am building a new PC at the end of summer and my main OS will definentaly be OpenBSD.
 

n0cmonkey

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Ill cover OpenBSD and Mac OS X since those are the only two Im adminning now (also use several other BSDs which I may comment on)

OpenBSD:
speed: Very fast, softupdates has helped io speed considerably and tcp speedups are in -current
stability: I have only had a few crashes. Most were because of a bad hard drive.
security: It all depends on the admin, just like any other system.
software compatibility: Its got a relatively small ports collection, which is mostly out of date (-stable).
harware compatability: Choose good hardware, it will be supported.
package management: ports is great. The only system that compares that I have used is Debian's apt-get
ease/power of install: It is the easiest, fastest install I have ever done. 20min on fast hardware, 30 for a net install.
quality of docs: Does any open source project have good documentation? No. But OpenBSD has the best I have seen.
recomended user level: newbie to power user. It all depends on if you really want to learn or not.

Mac OS X:
speed: The gui slows it down, but the overall system is quick.
stability: Its fairly new, but there is only so much hardware it supports so drivers are usually of high quality (on PPC anyhow, I havent used x86)
security: Apple needs to release patches quicker, but Im happy over all.
software: There is plenty of free software that works (think fink), and quite a few quality closed source applications that are worthwhile (omniweb)
harware compatability: It sucks on x86. The PPC version is quite nice.
package management: fink is a copy of apt-get basically. Its not standard though. Their .pkg system is ok, but not great.
ease/power of install: 1 maybe two clicks of the mouse.
quality of docs: Havent looked.
recomended user level: newbie - power user depending on what you want to do.

These are the only ones I feel like messing with for now, it would have been nice if this was included in my *nix thread
 

Sunner

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quality of docs: Does any open source project have good documentation? No. But OpenBSD has the best I have seen.
Am I missing something?
The docs for OpenBSD(Manpages, FAQ, etc) are the best I've seen, opensource or not.
If that was some joke i didn't catch, I'll blame that on the fact that Im tired
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Sunner
quality of docs: Does any open source project have good documentation? No. But OpenBSD has the best I have seen.
Am I missing something?
The docs for OpenBSD(Manpages, FAQ, etc) are the best I've seen, opensource or not.
If that was some joke i didn't catch, I'll blame that on the fact that Im tired

I agree, they are the best Ive seen. But I still dont consider them "good." I havent seen *anything* in the tech industry really that has good documentation. Maybe Im asking for too much?

OpenBSD's documentation gets *a lot* better if you dont rely on just the webpage.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: RedBeard0531
OpenBSD - Very fast, softupdates has helped io speed considerably and tcp speedups are in -current
I haerd that it doesn support smp, is that true?

Yes. Support is being worked on, but dont expect it for a long long time. Its not a priority.
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Sunner
quality of docs: Does any open source project have good documentation? No. But OpenBSD has the best I have seen.
Am I missing something?The docs for OpenBSD(Manpages, FAQ, etc) are the best I've seen, opensource or not.If that was some joke i didn't catch, I'll blame that on the fact that Im tired
I agree, they are the best Ive seen. But I still dont consider them "good." I havent seen *anything* in the tech industry really that has good documentation. Maybe Im asking for too much? OpenBSD's documentation gets *a lot* better if you dont rely on just the webpage.

I've relied mostly on the manpages, and thanks to them, I've managed to get everything I need done relatively painlessly so far.
That's good enough for me
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Sunner
quality of docs: Does any open source project have good documentation? No. But OpenBSD has the best I have seen.
Am I missing something?The docs for OpenBSD(Manpages, FAQ, etc) are the best I've seen, opensource or not.If that was some joke i didn't catch, I'll blame that on the fact that Im tired
I agree, they are the best Ive seen. But I still dont consider them "good." I havent seen *anything* in the tech industry really that has good documentation. Maybe Im asking for too much? OpenBSD's documentation gets *a lot* better if you dont rely on just the webpage.

I've relied mostly on the manpages, and thanks to them, I've managed to get everything I need done relatively painlessly so far.
That's good enough for me

Ive used the manpages, FAQ, another OpenBSD FAQ, deadly.org, google.com/bsd, google.com/linux, and probably a bunch of other places.
 

Sunner

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Ive used the manpages, FAQ, another OpenBSD FAQ, deadly.org, google.com/bsd, google.com/linux, and probably a bunch of other places.
And let's not forget the mailinglists.
I've even managed to avoid being flamed or told to RTFM despite posting several times
 

Fish54

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I give my vote to FreeBSD-
Increadibly stable (a bsd trait in general)
Huge number of ports available...and they work
Great community support
Very active (desktop) development - Good server side stuff too, but FreeBSD is my workstation, so this is the most important.
Excellent hardware support (I know NetBSD is supposed to have the most platforms supported, but FreeBSD seems to support much more of the hardware that I use, ie ATA RAID, ATI Radeon, blah blah)
Good installer
SMP support (not important now, but I'm hoping it will be very soon )

I have to admit, my experience with NetBSD and OpenBSD are pretty limited, but every time I try to install onje of them, I realise how great FreeBSD is.

Here's a little more info for you...The BSD Family Tree
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Sunner
Ive used the manpages, FAQ, another OpenBSD FAQ, deadly.org, google.com/bsd, google.com/linux, and probably a bunch of other places.
And let's not forget the mailinglists.
I've even managed to avoid being flamed or told to RTFM despite posting several times

Ive never posted, but I try to keep up with it every other day or so on marc.theaimsgroup.com
 
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