What is the fuss about the Athlon 1.4Ghz?

[multipasser]

I wanna buy a new system. I understand 1.4 athlon is lighting fast and cheap.But when i buy a new kt266a mobo like the VIA one and get me a 'cheap' 1.4Ghz athlon. What is the future upgradability!! NONE.. Because AMD wont go higher than 1.6, 1.7 with this CORE i think.. Or i'm I wrong?


And with Intel lowering prices and bringing out the new 478 cpu's , I'm save until 2.4Ghz 2.5Ghz or even higher.. All on 0.13 micron technology.. They even have one running at 3.5Ghz. Check anantech for info.

So why buy an ALREADY old system with no future like ATHLON.. (although its f*cking FASTTTTT and CHEAP)..
Better stick with INTEL and be able to GO much futher with the new mobo's..


Any comments plz.. I cant be right can I?
cya thanx

 

[pay]

The core will only last for a few more mhz.. but the socket will last for a while

 

[Noriaki]

The Palimino can drop into any TBird board with a BIOS update.

 

[Insane3D]

Like pay said, the Thunderbird core is just about to the end of the line, but the new Palomino cores will use the same socket. The socket probably won't change until the .13um pieces come out...

 

[waytoomuchcoffee]

Paly's should be good to past 2ghz. However, you are looking for a m/b with "upgradability" ROFL! Please tell me ANY board, Intel/Ath. or otherwise, that isn't out of date in 6 months now. Not to mention the processor changing (Hammer is now due out 1Q next year), by end of the year we will have 333Mhz DDR memory on some boards, while the "old standard" 266Mhz DDR will be out on the Nforce, but running at 2x the bandwidth... By beginning of year the 333Mhz Nforces should be out, by middle of next year 400Mhz DDR, and serial IDE that can burst data 10x faster than our measly ATA100 drives.

 

[MallowJr]

I got a 1.4 gz now...dont worry too much, i guess for apps it will help but for games i dont know THAT many games that will be made for 1.5 gz machines and above with geforce4's/etc....:disgust:

 

[multipasser]

Thanx dude's.. for the reply's..

but what is a good mobo than for an Athlon? Better wait for the new kt266A?

Are u guys sure that palemino will use same socket?? HOw high will it go?

Hammerline cpu's are due for when??

thanx cya

 

[WheelsCSM]

I agree with waytoomuchcofee, there is no such thing as a m/b with upgradability with AMD and Intel thinking about changing FSB speeds, and faster DDR coming out early next year, not to mention serial ATA. We'll all be wanting new motherboards in 5-6 months anyway.

 

[MallowJr]

If you can wait do it...but the way it is, when things are released (tired topic) something new will immediately be announced for launch within months...pick your time and snag it...don't get stuck in the waiting game...i personally snag the best hardware I can find when I upgrade though, don't want to start off slow already!

-ELmO :disgust:

 

[chuckieland]

buy a computer and watch it's value decrease day by day
just pick a point and just buy the damn thing
because some new and better will always come out torromow

 

[waytoomuchcoffee]

I realized this was coming when I wanted to upgrade a few years ago, and had to buy a new CASE and power supply of all things, to support ATX boards. At this point, I figure buy the best that is out there now (I just upgraded to a 1.4 Athlon, had too, my old system died), and I will probably have to replace practically everything next time. Hell, even the mice are coming out faster now. I found out a while back my optical mouse was "too slow", and a new 33% faster one was out. I only hope they don't get rid of the keyboard plug (and go to USB, or whatever might replace THAT), as I have an old Omnikey I dearly love.

 

[clstrfbc]

"but what is a good mobo than for an Athlon? Better wait for the new kt266A?"
Depends mosly on what you want to do with it, and how much money you wanna spend.
SiS 735 chipset has really good reviews right now, check it out at Tom's. linkyfied
The ECS K7S5A board doesnt have a lot of options for OC'ing though. But its under a eighty bucks.

 

[multipasser]

But the 478 mobo's and 478 cpu's are now based on 0.18 micron. When 0.13 micron comes out later this year they will still fit on the 478 mobo's right? But not on the 423 mobo's.

Where can i find info about the new AMD's .. palemino's!

thanx

 

[waytoomuchcoffee]

Paly's are out now (Athlon MP, or Athlon 4), at 1.2Mhz. They will be up to 1.53 first or second week of October, and move up after that.

 

[Joony]

remember waht happened to SLOT-A AThlons? well...same thing is gonna happen to socket-a chips...keeps gettin phased out with faster chips, hell, i can live with 500 mhz

 

[Rectalfier]

The Palominos, or Athlon XP will have multipliers up till 18X

 

[erub]

I remember 4-5 months ago when everybody was saying a reason to get an Athlon over a P4 was future upgradebility. Now it appears that there will be a socket converter so that you can use new processors in your P4 motherboard. And the i850 is still the leading platform for the P4 (for now). On the Socket A side, there is a chipset war going on finally - a good thing, but it means that your current motherboard will be out of date. However as others have stated, if you decide to upgrade your motherboard but keep your processor (I wouldn't do this, as switching your motherboard is usually a 5% gain and not worth the hassle for me) you can with an Athlon, your current chip will work fine. But most ppl don't bother with that and switch their motherboard at the same time as their processor, or switch their processor before they switch they motherboard

 

[waytoomuchcoffee]

A few years ago, "upgrading" your PC meant replacing your CPU. Now, the CPU is just one part that effect performance. Video card speed, video card bandwidth, memory speed, memory bandwidth, and hard drive bandwidth now all play a big role. You can "upgrade" your Athlon/P4 whatever when it gets twice as fast, but you will be losing out on all the other aspects getting 2x as fast too, and creating bottlenecks.

 

[Syborg1211]

For my friends and myself, anything over 1ghz is used just for bragging rights. I was first amongst my friends to join the ghz club, but then they started getting 1.2 ghz chips and such and I watched my cpu just seem to get slower and slower compared to what's out there. So I just bought an Epox 8k7a motherboard along with 512 mb ddr ram and am soon ordering a 1.4 ghz cpu. I expect my motherboard to last me long enough because a bio update is all I need for a Palomino to work in my motherboard. And the Palomino will go a long way. I got my i440bx chipset like 2 years ago and am still on the same motherboard so go figure! Who knows, in a year maybe I'll be back to Intel and therefore requiring a totally different type of motherboard and maybe even ram! Don't worry about the future as another 110 dollars or so for another motherboard is probably the least of your worries.

 

[TheWart]

The main reason I am such a fan of the TBird is its price, I mean it is just sooo dang cheap. On top f that, it performs EXTREMELY well against a 2GHz PIV.

 

[Napalm]

However, you are looking for a m/b with "upgradability" ROFL! Please tell me ANY board, Intel/Ath. or otherwise, that isn't out of date in 6 months

They certainly don't make them like they used to do they? I still have a motherboard carrying the best chipset ever released - the Intel BX chipset. This puppy has seen me through more than 3 years of processors - a Celeron 300A (@450), a Celeron 366 (@550), a Celeron 533 (@900), and a PIII700 (@933). I am running at more than 133MHz fsb, I can game if I want to at 60+fps with my 64Mb Radeon, and this thing is solid in Windows (still have a 3 year old install of Win98) with no crashes.

Somewhere along the line things seemed to go seriously wrong - it felt like things were moving much faster, but it also seemed like hype. There was a new processor released every couple of weeks (but the speed increment would be 5% faster than the last), there was new memory techology (but the speed difference was maybe 10%), and new motherboards (but they were out of date as soon as bug issues or bottlenecks were corrected). The whole industry seems to be based on "not quite ready for prime-time" technologies, and PR hype. Guess I am becoming old school...

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[burtrom]

I just sold off my 1.4 to someone and bought myself an Epox 8KHA with 512 MB DDR. I bought a Duron 850 which I'm running at 933. I figure I'm gonna save a few bucks and put it toward an Athlon4. In a month or 2, I'll sell of my Duron chip for cheap and drop in an Athlon4. Quick and easy.

Just a thought.

 

[waytoomuchcoffee]

<< They certainly don't make them like they used to do they? I still have a motherboard carrying the best chipset ever released - the Intel BX chipset. This puppy has seen me through more than 3 years of processors - a Celeron 300A (@450), a Celeron 366 (@550), a Celeron 533 (@900), and a PIII700 (@933).
>>



I loved that chipset. I had my BH6 for for years -- I had my Celery300@450, last year to a 533@875 or something... I would still have it if it didn't die a month or two ago. However, my benchmarks are showing about 5x faster now with my 1.4 setup, so I am not going to complain.

 

[majewski9]

The Barton will have 333mhz FSB .13micron and probaly be at 2ghz! Out jan or feb 2002! oh yeah Socket A !

 

[ToBeMe]

<< The Barton will have 333mhz FSB .13micron and probaly be at 2ghz! Out jan or feb 2002! oh yeah Socket A ! >>


Hmmm "Jan. or Feb. 2002"??????? Now, let's take a look at the latest AMD Roadmap HERE! Now correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that clearly state 2H02?????? LOL!:Q Barton will be "Kick Ass" if everything goes according to plans, but, let's not put the cart in front of the horse OK!