What is the MOTHERBOARD of Choice for Northwoods?

Madcowz

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Hopefully I will be getting a 1.6A soon and will be overclocking that mother to hell and back

Until then, I must decide which motherboard to get. So what is the motherboard of choice right now? Should I get a DDR or RDRAM based chipset?
 

AndyHui

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ASUS P4B266 for huge overclocks. The new 1006 BIOS allows for voltages all the way to 2.100 volts!!
 

tony710

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i love my abit th7 II raid, havent overclocked yet but i've heard they are good at doing that too
 

Plester

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not speaking from experience, but i think there are a bunch of great p4 boards, don't forget those based on the sis645 either, cheap and fast.
 

Raiz

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I chose the Asus P4S333 over the P4B266 because:
1. It was cheaper (afterall, I am only a poor NCSU student)
2. It can take advantage of faster ram (officially anyways)
3. It seems to overclock just about as well as the P4B266
4. Can't think of another reason


Hope that helps
 

Errtu

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The general consensus on the boards here is that the P4B266-C is the safe bet for big overclocks.

Personlly, I would recommend the Gigabyte GA-8IXRP but numerous people have had some trouble with this board (won't reboot over 125MHz FSB with manual core voltage - I have not seen this yet on mine). Feature for feature, it is superior to any P4 DDR board out there at the moment. Another downside is the pricetag ($165). However, the ASUS boards are stripped down. So for the extra $50 you get USB 2.0, audio, Intel 10/100 LAN, and ATA-133 RAID in addition to the feature of the ASUS boards. IMO that's a good deal.
 

manko

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<< So for the extra $50 you get USB 2.0, audio, Intel 10/100 LAN, and ATA-133 RAID in addition to the feature of the ASUS boards. >>

Supposedly, there's an Asus P4B266 version, that is supposed to have all those features coming out soon (already spotted in Germany, I read somewhere). I'm holding out a few more weeks to see if this board comes out. And by then, there may be a couple more choices from other manufacturers too.
 

dbwillis

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Im uisng an Asus P4S333 with no problems, 1.6a at 138 or 144 fsb (I forget right now, it was kinda late last night)
 

Madcowz

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So I guess the general consensus would be for a DDR based chipset? Any upcoming Northwood chipsets that should be noteable?
 

Pauli

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Anyone have good success with the MSI 845 Ultra? I just ordered the ARU variant with a 1.6A and hope that I get the FSB up to at least 133Mhz.
 

manko

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<< I'm holding out a few more weeks to see if this board comes out. And by then, there may be a couple more choices from other manufacturers too. >>

Digitmes story on new upcoming chipsets

Such as...

SiS 648: DDR400, AGP 8x, 533MHz FSB

VIA P4X333: DDR333, AGP 8x, 533MHz FSB

both due in March


 

Freshbrain

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I'm building a 1.6A system soon, I've read about that feature called turbo1 on Asus mbs that keeps PCI, AGP closest to 33/66. I was wondering if the Asus P4S333 (SIS 645) has that feature too, I'm planning to get that board, what do u think?
 

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<< ASUS P4B266 for huge overclocks. The new 1006 BIOS allows for voltages all the way to 2.100 volts!! >>



Where would one find that 1006 BIOS?
 

JellyBaby

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<< Such as...

SiS 648: DDR400, AGP 8x, 533MHz FSB

VIA P4X333: DDR333, AGP 8x, 533MHz FSB

both due in March
>>



These would only be released when 533 MHz FSB P4s come out which I believe is in May.
 

Athlon4all

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<< ASUS P4B266 for huge overclocks. The new 1006 BIOS allows for voltages all the way to 2.100 volts!! >>

That doesn't even matter. Anything higher than 1.65vcore for Northwood and other .13 micron CPU's will decrease their lifespan from years to weeks. IMO the board of choicefor Nrothwood's is Abit TH7II coupled with Samsung/Corsair PC800 RDRAM. That combo will hit at least 533fsb/PC1066, maybe even 560fsb if you get lucky with the RDRAM. Even at 533fsb+PC1066, that supreme combo will beat any P4B266 setup even those that are running at higher CPU clock than the 850 combo, 150fsb and beyond.
 

Tom

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Some opinions about the 3 main chipset options for P4s..

Rdram systems are the fastest, but it's debatable just how much faster. They are also still the most expensive, more so because of the cost of the motherboards than the cost of the memory. Also there will be new rdram boards in a couple of months that will officially support 533FSB.

i845d systems are the next most expensive and have an excellent reputation for stability and overclockability.

Sis645 systems are the least expensive and at least in a certain range of FSB are faster than the i845d boards because they have more FSB to memory clock ratios. They also are the only boards with quasi-official 533fsb support.


My feeling is that if you need to buy the ram to build your system, I'd look very hard at the rdram boards and maybe wait a few months for the newer rdram boards. If you are like me and already have some DDR memory laying around then either of the DDR systems will save some money, the Sis645 will save a bit more money than the i845d boards.


 

JellyBaby

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<< Anything higher than 1.65vcore for Northwood and other .13 micron CPU's will decrease their lifespan from years to weeks. >>

That would appear to be grossly inaccurate as many have exceeded that figure for quite some time and have had no troubles. Provided heat is managed properly there should be no harm to the chip for its useful life span.
 

Raiz

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I have to agree with Jelly. You have no fact behind your statement Athlon. I've seen many people running at 1.8V, and some even higher.
I've also been running my duron 600 at 1000MHz for over a year and a half without ever a hiccup from the system. It's run fine for me at the max voltage that my motherboard would give it. When I see more than 1 person's chip die, then I might begin to change my mind.
 

Madcowz

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I have a question. RDRAM based P4 chipsets are generally faster right? Well I hear that Rambus overclocks very poorly. That won't affect my CPU (FSB) overclock, right? Can I set the memory and CPU FSB separate? Also you guys think a DDR combo overclocked to PC2700 speeds will match or even beat a RAMBUS combo (w/ little to no memory overclock)?
 

lastig21

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I have a question. RDRAM based P4 chipsets are generally faster right? Well I hear that Rambus overclocks very poorly. That won't affect my CPU (FSB) overclock, right? Can I set the memory and CPU FSB separate? Also you guys think a DDR combo overclocked to PC2700 speeds will match or even beat a RAMBUS combo (w/ little to no memory overclock)?

From the benchmarks I've seen, the 850 chipset is faster than the ddr chipsets. Rambus is not as poor as an overclocker as was suspected. With the proper motherboard (ones with proper memory clock chips, I forget the name), rdram can easily reach 133fsb and higher. Though this is not as high as an fsb as ddr reaches, the overclocking ratio is about the same and the nearly irrelevant latency and the better technology of rdram makes it faster than ddr. If your rambus does reach a fsb limit, you can change the multiplier to lower the realized bus speed. PC 2700 should run non-overclocked PC800 rdram for its money, but its not really an important comparison because anyone willing to run their p4 @ 166 bus speeds would also be willing to overclock rdram, and from what i've seen 1066rdram beats out PC2700 ddr.
 

KenAF

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<< That doesn't even matter. Anything higher than 1.65vcore for Northwood and other .13 micron CPU's will decrease their lifespan from years to weeks. >>

This isn't true. People over on the Aceshardware and Arstechnica forums have already discussed, concluded, and confirmed that the original claim (on which your statement is based) isn't valid. Hell, even someone from Intel rebut'd the claim.
 

JJWalker

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That doesn't even matter. Anything higher than 1.65vcore for Northwood and other .13 micron CPU's will decrease their lifespan from years to weeks.

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