Warranty issues? That would be a solid reason to drop the boost. That wouldn't substantially affect the mpg numbers.
Why did they downgrade the engine in the 2015 Sonata to just 245 hp from the old car's 274 hp? The MPG numbers are basically the same. That can't look good from an advertising point of view, considering competitors like the Accord and Camry are packing V6s with 270+ hp AND better MPG.
Why did they downgrade the engine in the 2015 Sonata to just 245 hp from the old car's 274 hp? The MPG numbers are basically the same. That can't look good from an advertising point of view, considering competitors like the Accord and Camry are packing V6s with 270+ hp AND better MPG.
Perhaps it never had 274hp and the new number is more accurate?
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1410_2015_hyundai_sonata_sport_20t_first_test/Not too surprisingly then, the Sonata Sport 2.0T can't be expected to win many drag races against these competitors. We measured a 0-to-60 time of 8.0 seconds, which trailed even the Passat TSI Sport by 0.2 second. The Regal and Malibu did this sprint in 6.1 and 6.3 seconds and the Optima needed 7.2 seconds. Despite the added friction of all-wheel drive, the Fusion was 1.2 seconds quicker at 6.8 seconds. Even naturally aspirated competitors such as the Honda Accord Sport and Mazda6 squeak past the Sonata Sport 2.0T with a half-second and two-tenths to spare, respectively.
I'm also pretty shocked at how expensive Hyundais have gotten. They used to be a "value" brand compared to Honda/Toyota.
A 2015 Sonata Sport 2.0T with the 245HP turbo engine starts at $28,575. That's only $2k less than a better-equipped Accord EX-L V6 with 278HP. Considering that the Accord EX-L V6 is a little bit better equipped than a Sonata Sport, the real price difference is pretty much negligible.
I'm guessing they came up with a new tune to be able to provide the MPG numbers since people buying were more interested in that then the 25-30hp. It might also be a case of, under most conditions it makes 245, but when it builds boost it makes more. Hard to say.
I've actually thought the companies should be doing something like that anyway, have a pass button or something which will tell the engine to build up some boost so that when you put your foot down to actually pass you'll have it already there and can make the pass easier.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests...2015_hyundai_sonata_on_sale_today_is_the_eco/when the Vbox data was brought in for analysis, the same results appeared run after run. The 178-hp Eco was consistently faster than the 245-hp Sport 2.0T, and as expected the Sport 2.0T was consistently faster than the 185-hp Limited. That has to be an awkward conversation with a customer who's just laid down extra bucks for the topline Sonata with the red stripe on the engine cover. (Red equals fast.)
How old is the Accord? The new Sonata is quite a bit of a change compared to the previous one, so it might be they're looking for a premium for a newer car, whereas Honda having an older car is offering better deal. And then when they bring out a new one there will be a bigger price premium. Just saying as I haven't been keeping up on the Accord.
But that's also the whole point of Hyundai improving their cars, build up its reputation which will enable them to charge similar money as other brands.
But the 2015 2.0T Santa Fe is still very quick...6.6 seconds, and it weighs 400 pounds more than the 2.0T Sonata, and 700 pounds more than the 1.6T Sonata.
The Santa Fe supposedly has 264hp/269tq.
http://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/santa-fe-sport
After reading this went and test drove two Hyundai in my beautiful Buffalo weather! The 2013 Veloster would shake if I went over 45... turns out low tire pressure that the sale associate noticed but didn't think to fill it up before the test drive. Also tried a Santa Fe AWD. The Santa Fe was worse in the snow than my VW when it had summer tires on it!
It was so bad I didn't even leave the parking lot and just handed back the keys and left that dealer FAST! The sales rep was horrible at his job to be fair to Hyundai.
The funny thing is.. the next day my sisters BF let me borrow his Hyundai Sonata till my car is fixed. So far the Sonata feels like a very solid car and I might look at the newer ones. (Just at a different dealer)
After reading this went and test drove two Hyundai in my beautiful Buffalo weather! The 2013 Veloster would shake if I went over 45... turns out low tire pressure that the sale associate noticed but didn't think to fill it up before the test drive. Also tried a Santa Fe AWD. The Santa Fe was worse in the snow than my VW when it had summer tires on it!
It was so bad I didn't even leave the parking lot and just handed back the keys and left that dealer FAST! The sales rep was horrible at his job to be fair to Hyundai.
Just as a counter point to this I drove our 2013 Santa Fe in substantial snow here in the northwest and I thought it was great. I felt like it did a better job then my Lancer Evolution (all season tires on both, but the Evo tires were more performance oriented). I have also used the center differential feature and hill descent feature on the Santa Fe and they work as advertised.
Follow up to my previous point which i forgot to mention. When i was researching the tires on my 2010, it looks as though Hyundai had 2 different OEM tires on the santa fe. 1 was MUCH better in the snow then the other and it was a crapshoot which ones you got.
Why did they downgrade the engine in the 2015 Sonata to just 245 hp from the old car's 274 hp? The MPG numbers are basically the same. That can't look good from an advertising point of view, considering competitors like the Accord and Camry are packing V6s with 270+ hp AND better MPG.
Warranty issues? That would be a solid reason to drop the boost. That wouldn't substantially affect the mpg numbers.
It was so bad I didn't even leave the parking lot and just handed back the keys and left that dealer FAST! The sales rep was horrible at his job to be fair to Hyundai.
I'm also pretty shocked at how expensive Hyundais have gotten. They used to be a "value" brand compared to Honda/Toyota.
A 2015 Sonata Sport 2.0T with the 245HP turbo engine starts at $28,575. That's only $2k less than a better-equipped Accord EX-L V6 with 278HP. Considering that the Accord EX-L V6 is a little bit better equipped than a Sonata Sport, the real price difference is pretty much negligible.
Which dealer was it? (PM me if you prefer not to name them publicly)
I'm also in the Buffalo area (Williamsville), and have had two Sonatas over the last few years. Bought a 2012 SE in June 2011 on a three year lease while still living near Cincinnati. Moved to Buffalo in spring of '12, and the Sonata did well in the snow with 18-inch wheels the first year, but by the next winter the tread was quite worn down and the tires needed to be replaced. Other than routine maintenance, the car was trouble free the entire three years, and got great mileage.
Last spring I turned it in off lease and picked up a 2014 Sonata GLS w/ preferred package that added heated seats, backup camera, and a few other items that I can't recall, on another three year lease. That was from a dealer here in Buffalo, and I dealt with the internet sales manager. He knew the product well, and was fine to work with. Ended up with a zero down 12K/yr. lease for $228/month.
Yea, that's kinda huge when you also figure in that the Honda's gonna hold a much higher resale/trade-in value than the Hyundai is.