What is up with smaller new cases not having 5.25" drive bays?

Jumpem

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I have also been reading about people specifically looking for cases without them.

Are these users planning to have an external optical drive on hand for when it is needed?

I was interested in the upcoming Corsair Carbide Air 240, but it does not have a space for an optical drive.
 

Imp

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You can get an external optical drive for barely $30:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Portab...dp/B00DBV28TG/

And my motherboard from late 2009 supposedly allows you to boot (i.e. install OS) from a USB optical drive. Makes sense. I barely use my DVD drive anymore. Games come from Steam, lot of other software is downloadable now, and apparently, even Windows 8 can be downloaded and set up to boot from a USB stick.

I was going to get rid of my internal DVD to clear the cable clutter (1 power, 1 signal), but just wanted the convenience of the internal -- no having to hook up the external. On the other hand, it's barely ever used.
 

Carson Dyle

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The last two PCs I built have no need for an optical drive. I have an external USB drive for when I need it on these computers. I think I've used it twice in three years.

My main desktop PC still has an internal optical drive, but the only thing it's used for is ripping CDs.
 

T_Yamamoto

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Most users don't have a need for CD drives.

I have one in my main system to burn CDs for the car.
 

Jumpem

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I still have reason to use an optical drive a few times each year. New games, Turbo Tax, occasional disc of photos from a photographer. I also keep meaning to get a BD-R for incremental backups.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I always get a bit anxious when some piece of hardware is sliding into obsolescence, and I'd grown comfortable using that hardware to make operating-system and software installations.

And the older one gets, the greater the anxiety.

Felt uncomfortable when retail systems appeared without floppy drives, and I was building a new system and scrounging around for one to install.

OK. Don't really need floppy then.

Is there a possibility to mod one of these compact cases to fit a "thin" optical drive in somewhere?
 

easp

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I always get a bit anxious when some piece of hardware is sliding into obsolescence, and I'd grown comfortable using that hardware to make operating-system and software installations.

And the older one gets, the greater the anxiety.

I am 40+ and I embrace the disappearance of 5.25" optical drive bays with the firey zeal of a young convert. I am disgusted that the CoolerMaster Elite 130 case that I got as part of an AM1 bundle is so bloated with unnecessary accommodations of full size ATX PSUs and 5.25" external bays (but It'll be OK if I ever build another game machine).

As the venerable Carson Dyle said, their are plenty of cases with 5.25" bays. Don't begrudge us those that aren't encumbered by support for optical drives.

Is there a possibility to mod one of these compact cases to fit a "thin" optical drive in somewhere?

Two words, my friend: duct tape!
 

Qwertilot

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As above, the principal downside/motivation for not including them is the space. They really are quite big things relative to a small case. Solid too, so not great for air flow etc.

There's also I guess a slightly vacous fashion style thing going on Leave them out and you can get a very nice, smooth look to the front panel.

They do also seem to be somewhat prone to breaking down before the other stuff in the computer. Can't actually figure out how to remove my current (broken) one without totally dismantling everything else first, so I haven't bothered.
 

Insomniator

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Haven't used my optical drive in a few years. Motherboards boot from USB, so there goes my only possible need for one.
 

vbuggy

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Some cases have mounts specifically for laptop form factor drives. Otherwise it's USB. Let's face it, Steam / Origin / etc have killed off opticals, I'm all for new interpretations of the case doing away with ODD's on a gaming rig. On a general productivity rig - maybe not so much.
 

Red Squirrel

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I like having a sata cdrom drive for installing the OS at very least. With USB you never know, some motherboards don't handle it well or some drives me require drivers to be loaded etc... pain in the ass dealing with that if you are installing an OS. Though with newer stuff it seems to work fine 99% of the time with USB.

I RARLY use the cdrom drive though, on servers I don't bother with one anymore, I typically install the OS through IPMI.
 
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My main rig has a slimline optical, and I use it very rarely, mostly for ripping DVDs. None of my other machines have optical drives.
 

Cerb

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I ended up installing an internal optical drive purely for cable management, to have a place where out of the way cables wouldn't fall into the rest of the case, but without tying them up.

I've been using external ODDs since I got eSATA. Today, USB3 can do the job just as well.
 

vbuggy

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... or if you don't have crap monitors, you can of course hang them off the screen instead.
 

Aikouka

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I have a Blu-ray drive attached for ripping (my) discs. In fact, I got a CD this morning, and proceeded to rip it. CDs -- I know that sounds like crazy, arcane technology, but it was $5 cheaper to buy the CD used off Amazon than pay for the MP3 album.

EDIT:

I have tried to use my drive as an external, but the problem that I ran into is that it required an external power source, which I found to be too much of a hassle. I have a really large case (Corsair Obsidian 900D), which has no problem accommodating the lightly-used drive.
 

Piano Man

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I have also been reading about people specifically looking for cases without them.

Are these users planning to have an external optical drive on hand for when it is needed?

I was interested in the upcoming Corsair Carbide Air 240, but it does not have a space for an optical drive.

The Silverstone Temjin TJ08-E has smaller dimensions than the Corsair yet has two 5.25" drive bays.

Take a look at my sig to see what I stuffed into it.
 

wintermute000

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I would gladly trade all 3x 5.25 bays" in my Corsair 330R for 3.5/2.5: bays.
Ditto with my Silverstone TJ08.
They're only good for hotswap caddies.
I haven't used a CD/DVD in 3 years....
 

Mantrid-Drone

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I do think the need for a case with three 5.25" bays should have long gone and the space freed up for other purposes. But I still have use, real and potential, for a RW OD. Who on earth wants to faff around with an external OD, particularly when, whatever the future, there should always be plenty enough space in a desktop case to incorporate one or even two?

A Blu-Ray RW drive is the obvious choice and surely something almost everyone would find useful even if they have a dedicated player. I have a largish collection of CDs I want to rip to HDD but I'd point out that doesn't suddenly remove the need for the CDs themselves. You still have to own them to keep it legal (at least in the UK) and if you have the discs it would be stupid not to keep the capability to play them.

I'm sure there must millions of people out there with cars fitted with CD players rather than MP3s and might want to burn backup copies for that.

If you're into retro gaming and emulators installing stuff from disc is usually unavoidable particularly if you want to stay on the right side of the copyright laws. Then there are anti-virus and OS rescue discs which aren't going to be
affected by the things that could stop you using a USB device or rescue partition.

I have other, admittedly niche, uses for both reading and writing stuff to disc but most of all I would point out that a physical storage medium is still the safest way to keep anything long term. Old photos, important documents.......whatever, all of which can go in an instant if stored electronically, are safest on disc.

Discs of all types are undoubtedly becoming less important than they once were. That will continue over the next 10 years but, I hope, plateau out rather than completely disappear. At present it is still very useful, relevant technology and I for one won't be following the sheep who think that cloud and flash memory storage is all they need.
 
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The reason I could see missing 5.25" bays is that they're useful for other things. All those bay converters for 3.5" hot swap, 2.5" hotswap, fan controllers, audio interfaces, storage drawers...

*humph*
 

JoshGuru7

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Why is it a big deal if a few cases do not have 5.25" bays? You still have access to the rest of the cases; it will be years until the 5.25" is phased out entirely. If we were talking about the last 5.25" cases disappearing then I could see the cause for concern but product diversity is a very good thing in the interim. The Node 804 already exists as a dual chambered mATX case with an optical drive (slot load).

Regarding the Air 240 specifically it should be obvious that Corsair is pushing their LINK software over an external fan controller.
 
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Remobz

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I must one of the few here that still FULLY utilizes an optical drive. I have never booted ANYTHING off a USB3 yet. Only use my flash drives to store data files (movies, pictures, date etc.).

I guess I am really behind the times now
 

bunnyfubbles

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discs are going the way of the floppy

OS installs from much faster USB, everything else installs from downloads to the OS, and in the extremely rare instances that I still need a ROM drive, there's USB ROM drives for that.
 

Carson Dyle

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discs are going the way of the floppy

OS installs from much faster USB, everything else installs from downloads to the OS, and in the extremely rare instances that I still need a ROM drive, there's USB ROM drives for that.

Except that movies and music are still sold on optical discs. Unless you rip discs and store the movies and music on a hard drive, an HTPC will still need an optical drive. And if you rip a lot of DVDs or CDs, then an internal drive is a bit neater and more convenient than an external.
 
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