What is up with the people in Ohio?

cHeeZeFacTory

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CNN reported almost 300,000 manufacturing jobs lost in Ohio during Bush's term. They still go for Bush. Ridiculous.
 

KLin

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the people of Ohio obviously aren't dumb enough to listen to mindless propaganda :thumbsup:.
 

kranky

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What would you have Bush (or the Congress) do to stop the loss of manufacturing jobs?
 

Ryan

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Just goes to prove that people are smart enough to realize that the Economy is not controlled by a president.
 

Tylanner

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After considering Kerry's "new" reputation built on things he SAYS he will do, OHIO'ans picked the smarter man.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: cHeeZeFacTory
CNN reported almost 300,000 manufacturing jobs lost in Ohio

You say that like it's a new thing. The phrase "Rust Belt" came into being for a reason.
 

assemblage

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People don't want to learn and understand the forces of free marketplaces and the global economy let alone basic economic theory. It's easier to blame Bush.
 

cHeeZeFacTory

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Originally posted by: kranky
What would you have Bush (or the Congress) do to stop the loss of manufacturing jobs?

Well, i have no idea, but if I lived there, I'll take the chance w/ Kerry. They already saw what Bush did, I guess they like sitting at home and collecting unemployment checks.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: cHeeZeFacTory
Originally posted by: kranky
What would you have Bush (or the Congress) do to stop the loss of manufacturing jobs?

Well, i have no idea, but if I lived there, I'll take the chance w/ Kerry. They already saw what Bush did, I guess they like sitting at home and collecting unemployment checks.

If you lived there you'd understand that the loss of manufacturing jobs is nothing new.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: cHeeZeFacTory
Originally posted by: kranky
What would you have Bush (or the Congress) do to stop the loss of manufacturing jobs?

Well, i have no idea, but if I lived there, I'll take the chance w/ Kerry. They already saw what Bush did, I guess they like sitting at home and collecting unemployment checks.

I guess you like sitting at home posting tripe on the internet...
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: cHeeZeFacTory
Originally posted by: kranky
What would you have Bush (or the Congress) do to stop the loss of manufacturing jobs?

Well, i have no idea, but if I lived there, I'll take the chance w/ Kerry. They already saw what Bush did, I guess they like sitting at home and collecting unemployment checks.

And you probably blame Bush for the Internet bubble that bursted.

 

Hammer

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maybe they don't blame all their troubles on the president like some people here do.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: cHeeZeFacTory
Originally posted by: kranky
What would you have Bush (or the Congress) do to stop the loss of manufacturing jobs?

Well, i have no idea, but if I lived there, I'll take the chance w/ Kerry. They already saw what Bush did, I guess they like sitting at home and collecting unemployment checks.
And you probably blame Bush for the Internet bubble that bursted.
Yup...also the economic downturn that came as a result of 9/11

I think what the left doesn't understand is that red staters don't vote solely on economic issues
 

Svnla

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A President can't stop the forces of economic. Even Kerry said that he can't stop the job losses.

Do the math, if you are a business owner and you have to pick and chose between paying $5.15/hr (lowest salary for a U.S. worker) versus around $1 or $2 PER DAY for a worker in a Third World country. No brainer there.

Like I always said, continue to update your skills and knowlege and be adapt to changes or your life will be touch in the GLOBAL economy.
 
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Originally posted by: assemblage
People don't want to learn and understand the forces of free marketplaces and the global economy let alone basic economic theory. It's easier to blame Bush.

And you seem to need to learn about said topics.

Outsopurcing, reduced taxes and free trade along with making it easy for mexicans to work in the US is good how?

The US dollar is crumbling is good? (Just look at hte Euro vs Dollar if you don't beleive me).

Not all Bushes fault but he is a contributing factor.
 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: KLin
the people of Ohio obviously aren't dumb enough to listen to mindless propaganda :thumbsup:.



Truth. The President has nothing to do with the economy.
 
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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: cHeeZeFacTory
Originally posted by: kranky
What would you have Bush (or the Congress) do to stop the loss of manufacturing jobs?

Well, i have no idea, but if I lived there, I'll take the chance w/ Kerry. They already saw what Bush did, I guess they like sitting at home and collecting unemployment checks.
And you probably blame Bush for the Internet bubble that bursted.
Yup...also the economic downturn that came as a result of 9/11

I think what the left doesn't understand is that red staters don't vote solely on economic issues

9/11 didn't cause the economic downturn. That was already bad enough. 9/11 just made stock levels go to where they should be anyays much faster.
 
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Originally posted by: Svnla
A President can't stop the forces of economic. Even Kerry said that he can't stop the job losses.

Do the math, if you are a business owner and you have to pick and chose between paying $5.15/hr (lowest salary for a U.S. worker) versus around $1 or $2 PER DAY for a worker in a Third World country. No brainer there.

Like I always said, continue to update your skills and knowlege and be adapt to changes or your life will be touch in the GLOBAL economy.

1) FREE TRADE!
2) Bushes policy
3) is a factor

Why not tarriff imported steel? How hard would that be?

 

Genx87

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9/11 didn't cause the economic downturn. That was already bad enough. 9/11 just made stock levels go to where they should be anyays much faster.

Wow, did I just read that?

 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

1) FREE TRADE!
2) Bushes policy
3) is a factor

Why not tarriff imported steel? How hard would that be?
Bonehead! I'm from Ohio, and have ignorant coworkers spewing the same idiotic crap as you. Not only is Kerry for free trade, same as Bush, but so was Clinton, Dole, and Bush Sr. The ONLY candidate against free trade was Ross Perot, who was dead set against NAFTA. All others, including Kerry, agree with keeping NAFTA and belonging to the WTO. Any qualms with either of those entities is shared by both candidates.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Yes, they (as a majority) picked Bush who won the Majority vote in America... what would have been hilarious is if Ohio actually went to Kerry by a slim margin and Bush had won the ptopular vote by 3.3 million and the majority of the popular vote, yes that would have been a good thing to happen...
 
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