This is what I posted in another group, with what I think is seriously wrong with the Radeon. If anyone can dispute this I like to know.
"Rather than blowing an artery over this, why not just return your AIW and get another card?"
This card was purchased in advance and given to me three weeks later, and by the time I installed it and found this out, the return policy had expired. But don't get me wrong the Gaming aspect of it is what I wanted and for that I'll keep it. If I would have know I would have gotten a Radeon pure, It's just that for the hard earn money we paid for the AIW we should have gotten a card that works with what's out there now and not try to implement some mumbo jumbo DirectShow crap that doesn't work with anything or at least include both DirectShow and VfW WDM until this crap is settled.
My point is that selling this card as a capture card compared to it's predecessor the AIW-128 is very misleading by ATI and by every website that has reviewed this card. Lot's of users are frustrated and confused as to what they though this card could do as a capture card and what they thought they were getting, and like me are getting stuck with the 30/day no return policy.
>"ATI is providing more compliance with the WDM architecture than Hauppauge's VFW drivers do."
More compliance ??? compliance with who and what... The only company to follow this is ATI, you can't capture nothing except with ATI's own software (and Ulead which is included) because they are the only ones implementing DirectShow. Why not comply with what out there now, like WME 7, CuSeeme, VirtualDub direct capture ect.. why not just make it easy, all they had todo was to include a VfW WDM model like they did for the AIW-128.
The truth of the matter is that Microsoft through others are trying to implement strict control over what we can and cannot capture through the use of DirectShow. Directshow will eventually be able to detect copyright material and macrovision material but right now directshow is full of bugs and can't interpret the macrovision correctly and of course we who have paid big money for the cards are the ones that have to endure this. Microsoft is on an anti-piracy kick and are trying to implement directshow as part of their anti-piracy plan. If DirectShow support only would have been clearly visible on the AIW-Radeon box it would have stayed nicely on the shelf. But they're trying implement this backdoor torjan horse approach to directshow onto the unsuspecting video card buying public and that's what I don't like. It's only once we have had it for a while that we start to ask questions and say ... HEY
It's funny that Microsoft want's others to comply with the DirectShow when they themselves can't even implement DirectShow in their own software, WHY because no-one would use it and that's what they're affraid of. They though for sure that all capture cards would have this trojan horse DirectShow implemented but guess what, no-one wants it. So now ATI got stuck holding the DirectShow bag and Microsoft doesn't have the audacity to release software with directshow because they know just how much of a riot feedback they will get from the public, and specially when they are still fighting the DOJ anti-trust suit.
Let the video card buying public know exactly what they're getting and not getting and let them decide if they should buy it or if it stays on the shelf. If they won't tell them I will.
"Rather than blowing an artery over this, why not just return your AIW and get another card?"
This card was purchased in advance and given to me three weeks later, and by the time I installed it and found this out, the return policy had expired. But don't get me wrong the Gaming aspect of it is what I wanted and for that I'll keep it. If I would have know I would have gotten a Radeon pure, It's just that for the hard earn money we paid for the AIW we should have gotten a card that works with what's out there now and not try to implement some mumbo jumbo DirectShow crap that doesn't work with anything or at least include both DirectShow and VfW WDM until this crap is settled.
My point is that selling this card as a capture card compared to it's predecessor the AIW-128 is very misleading by ATI and by every website that has reviewed this card. Lot's of users are frustrated and confused as to what they though this card could do as a capture card and what they thought they were getting, and like me are getting stuck with the 30/day no return policy.
>"ATI is providing more compliance with the WDM architecture than Hauppauge's VFW drivers do."
More compliance ??? compliance with who and what... The only company to follow this is ATI, you can't capture nothing except with ATI's own software (and Ulead which is included) because they are the only ones implementing DirectShow. Why not comply with what out there now, like WME 7, CuSeeme, VirtualDub direct capture ect.. why not just make it easy, all they had todo was to include a VfW WDM model like they did for the AIW-128.
The truth of the matter is that Microsoft through others are trying to implement strict control over what we can and cannot capture through the use of DirectShow. Directshow will eventually be able to detect copyright material and macrovision material but right now directshow is full of bugs and can't interpret the macrovision correctly and of course we who have paid big money for the cards are the ones that have to endure this. Microsoft is on an anti-piracy kick and are trying to implement directshow as part of their anti-piracy plan. If DirectShow support only would have been clearly visible on the AIW-Radeon box it would have stayed nicely on the shelf. But they're trying implement this backdoor torjan horse approach to directshow onto the unsuspecting video card buying public and that's what I don't like. It's only once we have had it for a while that we start to ask questions and say ... HEY
It's funny that Microsoft want's others to comply with the DirectShow when they themselves can't even implement DirectShow in their own software, WHY because no-one would use it and that's what they're affraid of. They though for sure that all capture cards would have this trojan horse DirectShow implemented but guess what, no-one wants it. So now ATI got stuck holding the DirectShow bag and Microsoft doesn't have the audacity to release software with directshow because they know just how much of a riot feedback they will get from the public, and specially when they are still fighting the DOJ anti-trust suit.
Let the video card buying public know exactly what they're getting and not getting and let them decide if they should buy it or if it stays on the shelf. If they won't tell them I will.