What is your #1 gripe about Science Fiction movies?

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Iron Woode

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I hate when a sci-fi movie or series combines a different types of time travel/time continuum theories.

For example,:
1.they take the one crudely based on the theory of relativity - that every change or time travel was supposed to happen and it's actual the thing that caused the original event in the first place.
2.Then they take the theory where you can actually change the future or past with two variations of creating or not creating a time paradox
I don't have anything against these theories (although I prefer the first one), but even my beloved Star Trek Next Generation etc...Enterprise, DS9, Voyager or Star Gate lacked the consistency in whichever theory they chose (look at the end of 8th theory of SG1 for example). It shows how desperately was the whole time travel/change dependable on the actual story and often used to cover the plot holes.

Plus, I love Back to the Future trilogy, but the part where Marty's older siblings are slowly vanishing from his photo or the vanishment of doctor's tombstone from a photo as he/they change the past, is pretty much one of the dumbest things in sci-fi. Something similar happened in a Star Gate movie Continuum, where things and people were disappearing in a REAL TIME as the past was changing (past changing in a real time affecting the present? the scriptwriter should get a Nobel Prize or something).

Recently, I read a book by A.C.Clarke (yeah, The Space Odyssey guy) Rendezvous with Rama and it was written in a perfectionist style with the use actual physics even as changes in the plot. I recommend the book to all who find modern sci-fi lacking logic even in the already known things. And I also recommend it to those who think that you have to turn a blind eye, when something clearly stupid and illogical happens in a sci-fi.
they always find ridiculous ways of violating laws of causality.
 

kache

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Complete lack of solidity, in both the story and the science.
Basically every SF movie or tv series focuses on drama, ignoring everything else.
 

kache

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One really annoying thing they do is the sparks storm when the spaceship is hit. Seems like nobody knows about surge protection in the future.
 

techs

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The villian always explaining to the hero how he was going to kill him giving the hero time to escape.

Oh, wait. That's every movie ever made.
 

kache

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This is my gripe with Sci-Fi movies. Just look at the thread arguing about gravity in The Avengers and how Iron Man wasn't supposed to fall back to earth through the worm hole. It's a freaking fantasy movie. You don't question the demi-god, aliens, or the guy turning into a monster when he gets mad, you question the gravity.

You don't question them because they are an arbitrary rule inserted into a normal universe...
The writers never said that IM's planet had different gravity than ours.
 

kache

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Scientists & military being unbelievably unreasoned, dare I say stupid, and unprofessional in their analysis and reactions to a phenomenon.

Yeah, everyone acts like a retard, instead of like the trained professional he's supposed to be.
Perfect example is Prometheus, with those absolutely awful scientists.
 

kache

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As has already been pointed out multiple times, movies are written by people with theater tech degrees. AKA folks who will never do anything real in their life.

And? It shouldn't be that much of a problem hiring a professional for consulting, considering the stupid budgets Hollywood movies have.
 

SMOGZINN

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What grips me is that science fiction in movies/TV is dumbed down to a action flick in space. Good science fiction should be about more then action sequences. It asks hard questions and challenges us to think. Hollywood almost always cuts the hard questions in favor of an extra explosion or two. Never can the protagonist lose, or be on the wrong side.
 

Nintendesert

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Yeah, everyone acts like a retard, instead of like the trained professional he's supposed to be.
Perfect example is Prometheus, with those absolutely awful scientists.




This is the worse part. I can't stand movies that portray the characters completely contradictory to what a person would actually do just for the sake of moving the plot.

Prometheus was a damn horrid movie.
 

shortylickens

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This is the worse part. I can't stand movies that portray the characters completely contradictory to what a person would actually do just for the sake of moving the plot.

Prometheus was a damn horrid movie.

Thats also cuz they're written by people who majored in useless things and havent done much more than write.
 

Nintendesert

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Thats also cuz they're written by people who majored in useless things and havent done much more than write.



I would argue that they haven't even written either.



But even if all they do is write, how the fuck do you go from one scene with scientists afraid of a "blip" on a life signs detector and running away to wanting to face-fuck an alien cobra?? How can the writers and directors and other Hollywood retards just not see the inconsistency there? It boggles my mind.
 

SMOGZINN

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I would argue that they haven't even written either.



But even if all they do is write, how the fuck do you go from one scene with scientists afraid of a "blip" on a life signs detector and running away to wanting to face-fuck an alien cobra?? How can the writers and directors and other Hollywood retards just not see the inconsistency there? It boggles my mind.

It is because movie scripts are written by committee more often then not. They know that the plot does not matter any at all, it is just something to help organize the film. What really matters is that you have a big action sequence every few minutes, and get at least a few big explosions that can be put in the trailer. Because in the end putting together a good trailer is all that matters.
 

Olikan

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What grips me is that science fiction in movies/TV is dumbed down to a action flick in space. Good science fiction should be about more then action sequences. It asks hard questions and challenges us to think. Hollywood almost always cuts the hard questions in favor of an extra explosion or two. Never can the protagonist lose, or be on the wrong side.

+1
 

Northern Lawn

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Recently, I read a book by A.C.Clarke (yeah, The Space Odyssey guy) Rendezvous with Rama and it was written in a perfectionist style with the use actual physics even as changes in the plot. I recommend the book to all who find modern sci-fi lacking logic even in the already known things. And I also recommend it to those who think that you have to turn a blind eye, when something clearly stupid and illogical happens in a sci-fi.

I recommend that book as well, great read. I read it two or three times.
 

jagec

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- Every button, knob, or slider on anything anywhere needs to make a sound when used.

Hey, now, that's plausible. Lots of manufacturers put shutdown sounds on their cellphones, which is a pretty stupid idea.
 

waggy

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This is the worse part. I can't stand movies that portray the characters completely contradictory to what a person would actually do just for the sake of moving the plot.

Prometheus was a damn horrid movie.

Prometheus was insane. they can send a ship to the planet but not a "rover" to examine it first? or one to examine the structures?

just a terrible movie.
 

Jeff7

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Hey, now, that's plausible. Lots of manufacturers put shutdown sounds on their cellphones, which is a pretty stupid idea.
True, and I usually immediately look for a way to disable turn-on/turn-off sounds.
I also don't see it being a good thing in an office or military type environment. A room full of people, all pushing beepy buttons. Every other day, someone's going to go nuts and start biting off any fingers he can find.




It is because movie scripts are written by committee more often then not. They know that the plot does not matter any at all, it is just something to help organize the film. What really matters is that you have a big action sequence every few minutes, and get at least a few big explosions that can be put in the trailer. Because in the end putting together a good trailer is all that matters.
And of course, there are the focus groups.
 
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