What is your VID on coretemp on Q6600 G0 stepping only

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Nanobaud

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I have 1.225 and can also run stable (24hr Prime95) 333x9 at that voltage.

Haven't got around to trying anything higher yet, that's sufficient to make me feel good about getting the $200 Q6600 instead of waiting for a $350+ Q9450.

 

Drsignguy

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I was also wondering if it makes a differance ( probably not ) if you bought as OEM or Retail? I got mine as OEM.


Edit: would be strange to see if how many were purchased with higher VID through OEM
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Idontcare
That's a crazy amount of Vdroop. What mobo you using?

I had a DS3L go bad on me, the Vdroop went crazy high like yours. I RMA'ed it and it turned out to have a blown VRM (?) or such, one of those components that sits near the socket and would be under the passive heatsink if it weren't a budget board like the DS3L.

That's with my GA-P35C-DS3R. It actually only has .015-.020v of vdroop, IIRC. It just has the worst vdrop (what you call voffset) of any board I've ever seen.

try my IP35-E Id be lucky if i saw .0#

Also my 680i when it was about to die had a vdroop of .2! LOL.

Died about a week later. But yeah wasnt nice setting 1.5V in bios to have it boot @ stock.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: Drsignguy
I was also wondering if it makes a differance ( probably not ) if you bought as OEM or Retail? I got mine as OEM.


Edit: would be strange to see if how many were purchased with higher VID through OEM

All mine listed in my post above are OEM. VID ranges from 1.2625 - 1.2875.
 

v8envy

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Xeon 3210, G0 stepping. DS3L board, G.Skill RAM. Bought early Feb @ clubit.

3.125 VID. Left it at 1.325v BIOS, 1.22 or so load. Got it stable at 373 x 8, and possibly 374 x 8. But it won't even post at 400x7 or 400x6 (and yes, I verified RAM was 1:1, PCIe locked, RAM passes memtest86 at 900mhz+ with a higher multiplier). Cranked voltage as high as 1.41 BIOS, absolutely zero difference.

Load temps were low 60ish at 3ghz using the stock thermal goop and heatsink.

Got my E2180 to 3.33 ghz on a similar platform (also DS3L board, HPrebate RAM) so I'm pretty sure it's not just me being an idiot.
 

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VID 1.2875v
Abit P35-E
Just had time to OC last night:
3.420ghz 9*380 1.38VID vdrop 1.36 per cpuz
prime95 stable 4 hours so far max temp seen so far 58c
going to try for 3.6ghz next if I can stay below 65c as I think GO spec is 71c max
 

johnsonbrewer

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In the poll at 1.2125 G0 that I picked up last night at MC in KC! Haven't started OC yet, still trying to get Vista to boot. XP ( in dual boot ) booted right up and its already reactivated.

This VID is according to Coretemp, correct?
 

flexy

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1.44V 3537mhz, about the same on VTT voltage. My batch L741 Q6600 does NOT go any higher. 3537 OCCT stable (!), just 20mhz more and its extremely unstable, BSODs left and right. Maybe with 1.6V Vcore (Of course i wont go higher than 1.45-1.48)
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: johnsonbrewer
This VID is according to Coretemp, correct?

Correct. There are 6 VID's, but the one that Coretemp reports when your system is idle is the one we are interested in (to my understanding, Mark please confirm or deny this for everyone to understand)
 

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: johnsonbrewer
This VID is according to Coretemp, correct?

Correct. There are 6 VID's, but the one that Coretemp reports when your system is idle is the one we are interested in (to my understanding, Mark please confirm or deny this for everyone to understand)

I'm assuming that the VID of the chip is something that is "burned" onto it when it is tested? It is an absolute number and does not change, correct? But Coretemp definitely shows VID @ 1.2125 so I'm hoping for good things.
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: Markfw900
1.2 added ! Boy are you lucky !!!!!

I know Intel specs say VID as low as 0.85V is possible...can you imagine getting such a gem? There is probably a grand total of zero of them in existance at that VID...but such is what makes for good dreams!

no... id probably kill it. lol

A chip that good, i have no comment for. I would seriously think id kill it from having too much fun with it.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: johnsonbrewer
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: johnsonbrewer
This VID is according to Coretemp, correct?

Correct. There are 6 VID's, but the one that Coretemp reports when your system is idle is the one we are interested in (to my understanding, Mark please confirm or deny this for everyone to understand)

I'm assuming that the VID of the chip is something that is "burned" onto it when it is tested? It is an absolute number and does not change, correct? But Coretemp definitely shows VID @ 1.2125 so I'm hoping for good things.

What I meant was there are 6 VID's programmed into each chip, according to Intel's datasheets.

Each VID corresponds to a particular power-state. This is how the mobo knows what voltage to set the chip to when changing power states, it reads the various VID's.

The question here is which of the 6 VID's on each of our chips is the one we all want to report and compare?

My belief is that we all want to compare the paricular VID that Coretemp reports when system is idle.

I would not be surprised if this number (the one Coretemp reports) changes should you disable/enable powersavings options in your BIOS as you could potentially change-up which VID coretemp thinks is the one you are interested in seeing. (i.e. what CPU-z calls the "max VID" if you do a txt file dump)
 

markymoo

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I am using G0 65mm quad Kentsfield on a P5B Deluxe. Any VID between 1.35 and 1.40 is stable for me at 3.4. temps 23C idle on water. no matter what i do i cant get it stable at 3.6. it gets less stable the more i go over 1.4. I am at least pleased this board get it this high when i notice others are struggling on newer boards. My 1000 memory is still running under spec at 960 but in real life use this is no loss. I am also air cooling the motherboard and ram. So it isn't the temperature or the memory thats holding it back. I think its the motherboard older chipset not working well with the quad and being stressed with no native support.

For this G0 quad more is certainly not better. I do believe it be stable at 3.6 on a newer chipset board.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: markymoo
I am using G0 65mm quad Kentsfield on a P5B Deluxe. Any VID between 1.35 and 1.40 is stable for me at 3.4. temps 23C idle on water. no matter what i do i cant get it stable at 3.6. it gets less stable the more i go over 1.4. I am at least pleased this board get it this high when i notice others are struggling on newer boards. My 1000 memory is still running under spec at 960 but in real life use this is no loss. I am also air cooling the motherboard and ram. So it isn't the temperature or the memory thats holding it back. I think its the motherboard older chipset not working well with the quad and being stressed with no native support.

For this G0 quad more is certainly not better. I do believe it be stable at 3.6 on a newer chipset board.

Maybe confusing VID with Vcore? VID is like "stock Vcore", use Coretemp to see what your VID is for your chip. While you can change your Vcore, you shouldn't be able to change your VID.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: markymoo
I am using G0 65mm quad Kentsfield on a P5B Deluxe. Any VID between 1.35 and 1.40 is stable for me at 3.4. temps 23C idle on water. no matter what i do i cant get it stable at 3.6. it gets less stable the more i go over 1.4. I am at least pleased this board get it this high when i notice others are struggling on newer boards. My 1000 memory is still running under spec at 960 but in real life use this is no loss. I am also air cooling the motherboard and ram. So it isn't the temperature or the memory thats holding it back. I think its the motherboard older chipset not working well with the quad and being stressed with no native support.

For this G0 quad more is certainly not better. I do believe it be stable at 3.6 on a newer chipset board.

Based on the problems I have with my P5K vanilla, I can;t get it stable at anything above stock ! 3 ghz works a while, still trying to get something above stock. The same motherboard with a B3 stepping had the same problem, and I moved it to a DQ6, and now its happy @ 3320.

I hate my P5K !
 

taihuia13

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A have go 65mm quad kentsfield. vid 1.250 . At 3.420 load 1.296, idle 1.33 in bios its 1.375
just over ten hours prime at moment still going.
 

Drsignguy

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I have noticed that in some Screen shots that I have seen from time to time that the VID changes in coretemp to what you set the VID to in Bios? Am I correct here or am I just seeing things! Here is why I ask, no matter what voltage I set In the bios, the VID reading in coretemp is always the stock temp of my CPU and never changes. Oh, and to add, I have seen this also in speedfan. Reason is for this question is that I cant really get a good reading from what the VID is @ overclock and @ idol and what the vdroop is @ load?
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: Drsignguy
I have noticed that in some Screen shots that I have seen from time to time that the VID changes in coretemp to what you set the VID to in Bios? Am I correct here or am I just seeing things! Here is why I ask, no matter what voltage I set In the bios, the VID reading in coretemp is always the stock temp of my CPU and never changes. Oh, and to add, I have seen this also in speedfan. Reason is for this question is that I cant really get a good reading from what the VID is @ overclock and @ idol and what the vdroop is @ load?

VID is not something you "set" in the BIOS. It is not a settable parameter other than with the equipment Intel uses to set it at the factory. (to my knowledge)

You set the Vcore in the Bios. If you don't change the Vcore setting in the Bios then the Bios ought to set Vcore to the VID.
 

markymoo

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@Idontcare
yes hehe first time using a quad and can report the VID is 1.3000.

@Markfw900
the older chipsets to make compatible with G0 was a needed update bios. this gets them working but it still makes them poor overclockers. the board not optimised for this chip but in my case this quad is cooking my board and maybe this is what happens to older chipsets on quads with just a bios update. i will try watercooling the NB - something i never had to do on dual core, and putting ram heatsinks on the mosfets. i blowing a fan at my third party NB cooler and am stable at 3.4 but with no fan it wont boot into windows. this is probably why 1.4 -1.5 vcore is too much for it all. also when on the edge my raid 1 is always having to rebuild itself even when pci locked at 100 and 33. i think i still not be better off with a new quad as it sure is the board.
 

Martimus

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Idontcare
That's a crazy amount of Vdroop. What mobo you using?

I had a DS3L go bad on me, the Vdroop went crazy high like yours. I RMA'ed it and it turned out to have a blown VRM (?) or such, one of those components that sits near the socket and would be under the passive heatsink if it weren't a budget board like the DS3L.

That's with my GA-P35C-DS3R. It actually only has .015-.020v of vdroop, IIRC. It just has the worst vdrop (what you call voffset) of any board I've ever seen.

I thought the nomenclature was Voffset...never heard/read of "Vdrop" before.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...howdoc.aspx?i=3184&p=5

Specifically referring to Voffset as Anandtech uses it in this graph: http://images.anandtech.com/re...2/transient_vdroop.jpg

Woudln't Intel have asked for Anandtech to correct their article if it was incorrect? Where does the term "Vdrop" come from?

Vdrop and Voffset can be synonymous. It is all jargon anyway. I used the term Vdrop or Voffset when measing the voltage drop caused by the Voltage ripple in the filters I was testing. I have never heard the term Vdroop unless it was about Computers though.
 

elal30

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Asus p5k-e wi/fi - bios 1006 - GO stepping
Q6600@2.4 (auto in bios)1.1200v - load:1.1600v
Q6600@3.0 (manually set)1.2000v - load:1.1680v (enabled calibration)
Q6600@3.6 (auto in bios)1.3000v - load: 1.2600v
Q6600@4.0 Had to set above 1.4v to get into windows a few times, general instability, prime failed, tried a bit of everything in bios. Not done yet.
 

TheNorm

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My new Q6600 G0 .. VID 1.2625 v .. Batch L743 , dated 3/13/08 .. idle vcore is 1.24, load vcore is 1.214 @ stock .. Very good chip, prime95 stable at 333x9 at stock voltage. Currently running at 3.4 (378x9) @ + .1v .. 1.3625 .. idle vcore reads 1.336-1.344 .. 100% prime95 load vcore 1.312 v .. Running a MSI p6n Platinum board, 650i .. idle temps avg about 43C and load temps are about 52C .. I am using a thermaltake typhoon VX .. My board is a bit odd as far as voltage settings for vcore, it's choices are + .125 increments.. IE + .05v + .075v + .1v etc .. Which in the end I guess is better if you know your cpu's vcore. I went right to a + .1 vcore bump, since I knew I had the room voltage and temp wise.. I just got this a few days ago, so I'm going to slowly increase the FSB from here and see when I get a BSOD then I'll raise the voltage some more and see where I end up at mhz wise, so far it's handling 3.4 like a champ, and I'm pretty sure I could lower the voltage at this speed.. I will see how it does and report back if people are interested.. This chip definitely feels like it has more room yet.. All readings with coretemp & cpu-z and prime95 for load ...

My previous chip was a e6600 which I ran at 3.4ghz (378x9) that needed 1.5v and ran at 60C full load..
 
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