Originally posted by: Idontcare
I thought the nomenclature was Voffset...never heard/read of "Vdrop" before.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...howdoc.aspx?i=3184&p=5
Specifically referring to Voffset as Anandtech uses it in this graph: http://images.anandtech.com/re...2/transient_vdroop.jpg
Woudln't Intel have asked for Anandtech to correct their article if it was incorrect? Where does the term "Vdrop" come from?
Originally posted by: myocardia
Actually, the nomenclature is/was Vdrop. That's the term used for vdrop/Voffset by us old overclockers for many, many years now, ever since the first software that let us know we were actually experiencing it came on the scene. Intel never had a term for it, at least that we knew. I've read quite a few articles over the years that mentioned vdrop, but the one you linked is the first one I've ever seen that uses the term Voffset.
Now, like I told you a few months ago, the first time I ever saw you use the term Voffset, I actually think it's the better term, simply because it doesn't look to the reader as if the writer meant to say Vdroop. If Intel has finally decided to give the term an official name, or to publicize the name they've been using all along, that's fine with us old overclockers, although we haven't officially voted on such as of this time. That's why whenever I use the term now, I use both, so everyone understands what's being discussed, not because one is right, and the other wrong.
Originally posted by: myocardia
edit: And I would hope that Intel isn't asking the media to change their articles to suit Intel, though it wouldn't actually surprise me if that were happening. There's a reason that their nickname is spIntel.
Originally posted by: myocardia
edit #2: Of course, Intel wasn't the company who invited all of the hardware sites on the planet to an all-expenses-paid trip to Lake Tahoe, to run the three benchmarks they wanted them to run on their poor performing new processor. That was the dumbest mistake spAMD ever made, and it made all of Intel's past snafus look completely honest in comparison, at least to me.
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Well I didn't mean it like that. I meant more of the helpful AT forum members who happen to work at Intel and would also happen to be "in the know" might have dropped some helpful email/PM's to the editor/authors with some terminology assistance were the original articles to contain some "misrepresentations of the facts".
The Lake Tahoe snafu no doubt was at the root of some of the VP's heads rolling this past year. And you are right, it is yet one more "tentative" datapoint that by itself would have been easily forgiven as an error in judgement but it came with all the other datapoints that when tallied up led one to the conclusion that the K10 vs C2D situation was one of monstrous arrogance amongst the AMD executive clubhouse members.
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Originally posted by: Fistandantilis
What is the VID and what is its relationship to the processor and overclocking.
Originally posted by: arjoreich
lol... I get some kind of .02-0.5v random vdroop/ripple under idle or load, stock or overclocked... OCCT - for what it's worth - reported as much as a 0.8v max ripple on a six hour stress test... :shrug:
That being said, I haven't tried to max it out to see where she pukes but I've already got a 3.0GHz (333FSB x9) OC rock solid stable and I'm a good .4-.5v under VID still. See what I mean?
EVEREST Sensors + CoreTemp
http://i87.photobucket.com/alb...p/th_Q6600G0VID_01.png
Q6600 VID & Specs
http://i87.photobucket.com/alb...p/th_Q6600G0VID_02.png