What it looks like on ground/border w/Armed unauthorized militias patrolling Texas

[Oldgamer]

I wasn't aware that the 2nd Amendment authorized trespassing and vigilantism.

It doesn't..lmao

 

[Jhhnn]

Refugees from the Bundy Ranch, apparently. I have the same questions as always-

So, uhh, how can they afford to be out there? Do they have actual jobs, or is somebody else supporting them?

 

[brycejones]

amazing that the left fears Americans defending the border more then the illegals crossing it.

LOL typical small minded michal1980 comment.

 

[michal1980]

One can be opposed to both vigilantes as well as illegal immigrants.

It's not a zero sum proposition.

The left isn't opposed to illegals. And this thread shows there true colors:

These Americans have been called terrorists, drug dealers, racists, idiots, criminals etc.

Meanwhile all the illegals, wait, undocumented Americans, crossing the border are nothing but hard working people that want a better life for themselves.


And I don't see you calling the people on the left for there views, so you statement of it not being a zero sum game is nothing but bullshit.

 

[michal1980]

LOL typical small minded michal1980 comment.

if my mind is small, the lefts must be non-existent.

 

[IronWing]

Refugees from the Bundy Ranch, apparently. I have the same questions as always-

So, uhh, how can they afford to be out there? Do they have actual jobs, or is somebody else supporting them?

Disability pays good.

 

[werepossum]

I'll agree to stopping it the day the military is sent down there to relieve them.

This. Our Border Patrol has largely been turned into Ride to Town.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Okay, well let me know when they get violent.

"You point your gun dead at him, right between his eyes, and you say, 'Get back across the border or you will be shot.'" Says one of the men with cover face."

May not take too long.

 

[Greenman]

I'm all in favor of protecting the border, but I want the Federal government doing it, not a group of unaccountable vigilantes with suspect training and motives.

I agree with that, the issue is that for whatever reason, the Federal government flat out refuses to to do the job. That pretty much leaves the border states without any options. So the citizens take over the job.

 

[norseamd]

If they wanted to that they should be popping out kids like Orthodox Jews. More than half of the babies being born since 2001 are minority, and even the decade before that (1990-2000) only about 56% of children born were white. Stopping the illegals at the border with a few small teams over a nearly 2000 mile border has a negligible effect on the flow across the border.

Do you think they are going to understand logic and reasonable thought?

 

[Orignal Earl]

I agree with that, the issue is that for whatever reason, the Federal government flat out refuses to to do the job. That pretty much leaves the border states without any options. So the citizens take over the job.

Well, there is all these guys

With over 21,000 agents, the U.S. Border Patrol is one of the largest law enforcement agencies in the United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol

 

[MrPickins]

To enforce a claim of trespass? I guess my point was, absent a sign (or a fence or something) they don't really need permission to be there, they technically aren't trespassing until someone tells them to leave. Hopefully at gunpoint

This is true, but I'd be willing to bet there are signs at the ranch entrances. I'm pretty sure that's sufficient.

 

[zinfamous]

I agree with that, the issue is that for whatever reason, the Federal government flat out refuses to to do the job. That pretty much leaves the border states without any options. So the citizens take over the job.

I still don't know why the DEA cant' be re-purposed into our primary border enforcement. Their current charge is absurd, anyway, and as the "War on Drugs" continues down this senescence, these bloaks will want something to do.

Put them on the boarder to enforce illegal narcotics importation and illegal border crossings. Stop terrorizing citizens for harmless bong hits.

 

[MrPickins]

This. Our Border Patrol has largely been turned into Ride to Town.

What I don't get is why the main border patrol checkpoint for the Lower Rio Grande Valley is ~70 miles in from the border...

http://www.cbp.gov/border-security/...grande-valley-sector-texas/falfurrias-station

 

[MrPickins]

I still don't know why the DEA cant' be re-purposed into our primary border enforcement. Their current charge is absurd, anyway, and as the "War on Drugs" continues down this senescence, these bloaks will want something to do.

Put them on the boarder to enforce illegal narcotics importation and illegal border crossings. Stop terrorizing citizens for harmless bong hits.

Because that would be logical.

 

[IronWing]

We have plenty of border patrol agents, enough to hold hands along the border. We just have a terrible strategy of defense in depth designed to fail while offering opportunities to harass citizens. If BP would get off their butts, out of their trucks, and get back to the border they would have plenty of agents to get the job done.

However, whenever they do turn the screws and cut off the labor flow the farmers, builders, and hotel lobbies* start bitching and the BP backs off.


*I say that's a joke there, a joke, get it?

 

[MrPickins]

*I say that's a joke there, a joke, get it?

I definitely heard Foghorn Leghorn there :biggrin:

 

[Ns1]

i, for one, am glad someone is willing to defend our border.

cuz that person sure as hell aint the president.

 

[Ns1]

Well, there is all these guys



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol

too bad they're busy taking care of kids in detention center

CBS5 has confirmed Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona are being pulled out of the field. Instead of arresting drug smugglers, they are doing paperwork and processing a massive wave of unaccompanied immigrant juveniles who are being housed in Nogales.

http://www.kpho.com/story/25717716/unaccompanied-immigrant-children-now-being-detained-in-arizona

 

[IronWing]

too bad they're busy taking care of kids in detention center



http://www.kpho.com/story/25717716/unaccompanied-immigrant-children-now-being-detained-in-arizona

That is their job.

 

[Ns1]

That is their job.

So I guess it's a good thing we have militia's doing the dirty work of actually protecting the border?

 

[IronWing]

So I guess it's a good thing we have militia's doing the dirty work of actually protecting the border?

Have the nutjobs had any success?

 

[squarecut1]

And I don't see you calling the people on the left for there views, so you statement of it not being a zero sum game is nothing but bullshit.

You should not look at everything in terms of left and right. Many people are neither

As for racists, they too are both on the left and right

And if these militia people out in rural Texas doing this thing has nothing to do with race, I've got a bridge to sell to you

 

[Ns1]

Have the nutjobs had any success?

don't know. good question for the border reporter.

 

[michal1980]

You should not look at everything in terms of left and right. Many people are neither

As for racists, they too are both on the left and right

And if these militia people out in rural Texas doing this thing has nothing to do with race, I've got a bridge to sell to you

Have any proof to back up your claim?

Or are you just a typical lefty who calls everyone they disagree with a racist or bigot these days.

Because if you turn everyone into a racist or bigot, you can just treat them like dirt, and not actually think about any point they might be making.