What Linux Rules

[Idoxash]

What would be the overall better Linux OS ( SuSE Linux 8.1, Mandrake Linux 9.0, Redhat 8.0, or is there some other Linux? ) After looking at specks I notice that mdk 9.0 seems to have more uptodate componects ...

Just to say as a user of the older Mandrake Linux 8.1 ( that ver sucked ) I don't feel so well about going with 9.0 so what you ppl/s things, eh?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

hm? what about our things?

 

[TheOmegaCode]

From what I understand, RedHat has surpassed Mandrake when it comes to being user friendly, which means it's the most like Windows now!

 

[n0cmonkey]

The clear and undisputed winner is:
RedHat, Mandrake, Slackware, SuSE, Debian, Gentoo, etc. Try them all, do a search on this subject, and please explain what makes people ask this increadibly dull and over asked question day after day.

 

[mpitts]

I prefer Redhat. I have been using it since 5.2 and it has always been my favorite distro.

 

[Ynog]

I have used different distributions of linux and tend to lean towards Redhat.
However I learned Redhat first so there is slight bias there.

I work on machines that use Redhat 7.0, 7.2 and 7.3. I like all of those.
Though the further you get away from a .0 verision the less bugs you
run into. Though the bugs I ran into with 7.0 were not that bothersome.

I haven't used 8.0 so I wouldn't know what is like, but I do have a machine
at home that I am thinking of putting it on.

Any one is better than Windows. I think alot of it comes down to personal
preferance.

 

[PowerMacG5]

I would personally say try to learn the harder distros first. Like Slackware, Gentoo, etc... I say this because I started with an easy to learn distro, and learned squat. Then when I switched over to slackware, it opened my eyes to the power of linux. If you start with a harder to learn distro, you are forced to learn shell commands, and do not get used to GUI interfaces. I am currently running Slackware 8.1 (eagerly awaiting 9.0) in runlevel 3 (skrew X-Windows) as a router. But I would definitely say try a harder to learn distro first. Two websites that might help:
LinuxNewbie.org - Forums for n00b's, help, etc...
The Linux Documentation Project - Contains HOWTO's for most aspects of Linux use

 

[Nothinman]

Debian.

 

[countSchemula]

Try a few.

I use SuSE for both servers without X Windows and for a little desktop use with X/KDE.

If high speed you can get RedHat for free to give it a spin.

Debian seems very popular with geeks, but I've never tried it.

Whatever you do, buy a copy of the distro you go with. It's a pretty easy way to make a positive impact on the linux scene.

 

[Abzstrak]

just start trying them, when you just learning the OS it wont really matter, if you dont want to get scared off then load redhat or mandrake... if your braver than I'd suggest debain or gentoo, I personally will never turn back from Gentoo.... well... unless something better comes out ;-)

 

[BeauJangles]

Just recently a few friends and I installed Gentoo on a computer at our school. Very nice, I like it a lot

 

[oniq]

Personally, I'm a Gentoo fanatic. I've tried a lot of distributions, and if it wasn't for Gentoo, I don't think I would have kept Linux on my laptop. It has been the only distribution that I have gotten EVERYTHING to work, without a hitch. I used to have trouble compiling things because some library was missing and then when I downloaded the library, it wouldn't compile. I don't have that problem with Gentoo, I just emerge whatever, and in minutes I have a compiled version of the program for MY pc, optimizations and all. Its a little more difficult than many other distributions, but learning it gives you a lot more power over the operating system.

 

[Chatterjee]

screw learning the harder distros. if you want to get productive, get red hat 8.0 and install that.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Chatterjee
screw learning the harder distros. if you want to get productive, get red hat 8.0 and install that.

Productive for me may mean something different than it does for you

Anyhow, Im installing RedHat 7.3 right now for work (yes, I know its late, I get to wake up in a few hours :/). Hopefully I wont have any *MORE* problems with the installation of the system and the software I need. Hopefully tcpdump and the rest of the NECESSARY programs are installed for me.

 

[Soybomb]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Chatterjee
screw learning the harder distros. if you want to get productive, get red hat 8.0 and install that.

Productive for me may mean something different than it does for you

Anyhow, Im installing RedHat 7.3 right now for work (yes, I know its late, I get to wake up in a few hours :/). Hopefully I wont have any *MORE* problems with the installation of the system and the software I need. Hopefully tcpdump and the rest of the NECESSARY programs are installed for me.

bsd to redhat? scary sounding....

 

[Soybomb]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Chatterjee
screw learning the harder distros. if you want to get productive, get red hat 8.0 and install that.

Productive for me may mean something different than it does for you

Anyhow, Im installing RedHat 7.3 right now for work (yes, I know its late, I get to wake up in a few hours :/). Hopefully I wont have any *MORE* problems with the installation of the system and the software I need. Hopefully tcpdump and the rest of the NECESSARY programs are installed for me.

bsd to redhat? scary sounding....

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Soybomb

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Chatterjee
screw learning the harder distros. if you want to get productive, get red hat 8.0 and install that.

Productive for me may mean something different than it does for you

Anyhow, Im installing RedHat 7.3 right now for work (yes, I know its late, I get to wake up in a few hours :/). Hopefully I wont have any *MORE* problems with the installation of the system and the software I need. Hopefully tcpdump and the rest of the NECESSARY programs are installed for me.

bsd to redhat? scary sounding....

The software should work on redhat. I dont feel like hacking it to work on OpenBSD tonight.

EDIT: And I only recommend RH 7.3 for those people that have viscious masochistic streaks. The install sucks. The requirement of isos sucks. The burning of cds sucks. RedHat blows big hairy goats. If you own stock in redhat, sell it now, its the worse OS/distro I have ever used. The people that support this company should be quartered.

 

[Nothinman]

bsd to redhat? scary sounding....

If you want support for somethings it's a must. I run Debian on everything I can, but RedHat at work because it's necessary. Big companies still won't even admit that Debian or *BSD exist.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

bsd to redhat? scary sounding....

If you want support for somethings it's a must. I run Debian on everything I can, but RedHat at work because it's necessary. Big companies still won't even admit that Debian or *BSD exist.

It would have been faster, easier, and more efficient for me to have started with Debian. RedHat's installer sucks. This isnt exactly sanctioned, so we dont ened support or anything, but I may be giving my mental health care provider a call later.

Note to everyone: my previous comments about RH (except the installer being a big POS) are me letting off some steam. I do not want hte RedHat fans to be quaartered. Flogged maybe, quartered definitely not.

 

[Bremen]

Tell them to grep windows, that should at least convince them BSD exists. Although to be serious I can't imagine FreeBSD is that unknown considering it powers some of the largest web/ftp sites in the world (if not the largest).

 

[Nothinman]

Tell them to grep windows, that should at least convince them BSD exists. Although to be serious I can't imagine FreeBSD is that unknown considering it powers some of the largest web/ftp sites in the world (if not the largest).

I didn't mean they literally don't know it exists, I mean they don't support it in any fashion. You see companies supporting RedHat, SuSe, etc (hell HP even uses Debian internally as their official distro) but not a peep about FreeBSD, let a lone Open or Net.

 

[GonzoDaGr8]

And I only recommend RH 7.3 for those people that have viscious masochistic streaks. The install sucks. The requirement of isos sucks. The burning of cds sucks.

I agree..I never ever got RH 7.x running. Corel and SuSE came and saved me from the evil RH.

RedHat blows big hairy goats.

LMAO on that one

 

[superjohnny]

I got Suse 8.0 today and I'm going to give that a try. I have tried RedHat before and it drove me nuts. I dunno why I uninstalled Mandrake, it was really easy to set up. I'm going to give Suse a try then Mandrake if that sucks.

linuxnewbie.org is great, thanks for the linkage

 

[Bremen]

(hell HP even uses Debian internally as their official distro) but not a peep about FreeBSD, let a lone Open or Net.

No wonder HP is losing money ;0)

As for BSD I think part of the reason is Linux is sexier. Besides, would you support OpenBSD? Theo is not exactly the type of person corporates get cozy with ;0) NetBSD would probably be a nightmare to support given the number of architectures involved (or at least the percieved risk would be too great). OpenBSD also has HW specs for very nearly every piece of hardware they're interested in. So as a result the BSDs all write their own drivers (or use each others) without ever making a flap about it (except when someone lets Theo out of his cage). This brings us back to linux is sexier. If they supported FreeBSD who'd care. Administrators would probably trust the free and open drivers already included. But they can make a big marchitecture push with linux support. Witness all the desktop users who NEED the nvidia drivers. I don't get it personally, the nv xfree driver works fine for me. Besides the nvidia driver kept crashing my computer...

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Bremen

(hell HP even uses Debian internally as their official distro) but not a peep about FreeBSD, let a lone Open or Net.

No wonder HP is losing money ;0)

As for BSD I think part of the reason is Linux is sexier. Besides, would you support OpenBSD? Theo is not exactly the type of person corporates get cozy with ;0) NetBSD would probably be a nightmare to support given the number of architectures involved (or at least the percieved risk would be too great). OpenBSD also has HW specs for very nearly every piece of hardware they're interested in. So as a result the BSDs all write their own drivers (or use each others) without ever making a flap about it (except when someone lets Theo out of his cage). This brings us back to linux is sexier. If they supported FreeBSD who'd care. Administrators would probably trust the free and open drivers already included. But they can make a big marchitecture push with linux support. Witness all the desktop users who NEED the nvidia drivers. I don't get it personally, the nv xfree driver works fine for me. Besides the nvidia driver kept crashing my computer...

The only support needed is documentation as far as hardware stuff goes. Look at the bad publicity Sun is getting right now because they are playing favorites and being hypocritical bastards