What...me worry?

gar3555

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Worried

Doesn't look good. Why start getting worried...there is still time. More importantly why broadcast your worries?
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Obama out witted Hillary.
Not an easy thing to do in the least.
We have not yet had ONE debate, not to mention
a one-on-one with Palin.

Me think-est there are a few more twists left in the plot.

I wouldn?t cash in my chips just yet...
 

nageov3t

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when you lose and lose and lose, I think you start getting paranoid about bump in the night.
 

Stoneburner

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There really is no reason to worry UNTIL the debates. Obama still has the upper hand as i've explained numerous times. People are getting wrapped in media narrative and national polls.
 

rockyct

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Since locking up the nomination, Obama pretty much had a slight lead the whole time. Some thought he would coast into the white house without any bumps along the way. I'd rather the Obama camp get their act together now than in a month.
 

sportage

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Yeah when it comes to hard core issues, we haven?t seen the one on one yet.
We will in the debates.

The Mccain ticket has been making a lot of off the wall misleading statements, and
not even the press has really held them accountable, or took issue.
But guess what.... Obama will. Joe will.
Then we will see how serious voters, men and women, are about this election.

This is an election... remember what that is?
 

StageLeft

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I admit my armor of certainty is cracking, but my worry is more grand than this election; I truly am worried more than previously I was worried about the future of the country as a whole and the competency of the voting populous. And no hyperbole on this, either. As misanthropic as I am, it does have limits and previously they told me that after 8 years of Bush people would be starving for the antithesis of this terrible rule. And yet here we are with two months left and the race is essentially in a dead heat.
 

Thump553

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Jun 2, 2000
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The worry is natural. Look what happened in 2000-Dems won the overall popular vote and a sizeable chunk of the country (and probably history) thinks they won Florida too-if it was counted fairly-but it all came down to a 5-4 Supreme Court vote.

2004 -lost again, out manuvered by Rove and the swift boaters.

We seen our country slide downhill for eight straight years, becoming incredibly milataristic and run by a fringe religious minority.

Bush doing everything he can to bind the next President to continue his failed policies after the election, no matter who wins. Like trying to negotiate a treaty equivalent with Iraq, but one that doesn't require Senate approval. Thank God the Iraqi government stood up to him. Taking over FNMA and Freddie Mac, but essentially leaving the conservatorship on hold until 2009. Trying to ram through EPA regs to gut the agency's power. Etc. Etc.

I'd say there's plenty for Democrats-and all sane thinking Americans-to worry about until after the election is done, sealed and counted. That is unless we want our country to go the way of Great Britain, and be a has been world power.
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I admit my armor of certainty is cracking, but my worry is more grand than this election; I truly am worried more than previously I was worried about the future of the country as a whole and the competency of the voting populous. And no hyperbole on this, either. As misanthropic as I am, it does have limits and previously they told me that after 8 years of Bush people would be starving for the antithesis of this terrible rule. And yet here we are with two months left and the race is essentially in a dead heat.

Take a look at the poll on CNN.com:

Which do you think other people consider most heavily when casting their votes?

Current results:

What the issues are 33% 61782
Who the candidate is 67% 124899
Total Votes: 186681


And who decides whether the debate is about people or issues? THE MEDIA!

Disgusting.
 

sportage

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Everything is in a weird hazy like limbo until the debates get going.
You'll see shifts towards Mccain because he picked a woman.
Shifts towards Obama because Mccain picked an unknown woman.
Polls, arguments, lipstick...
But until the debates get going, either side can claim anything.
Which comes down to nothing concrete.

Right now I'm more concerned about that black hole forming above my house



 

sportage

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To add, I bet many don't even realize the Oct 7 Obama/Mccain debate will be in a town hall meeting format. THATS what Mccain has always wanted.
This is what I'm waiting for.
 

Moonbeam

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The Republican party is dying. They are the party of the past, the retrograde vine hugging Neanderthal, the insular religious fringe who cling to exclusivity. They are being replaced by the global human who identifies with no race or country, folk who don't get the religious joke. A mighty wave is coming.
 

mshan

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I just looked up the governor of Colorado, New Mexico, and Iowa, and they are all Democrats.

Hopefully that means Obama will at least get a fair shake in terms of not having a victory stolen by voter suppression, etc.

If he can defend Michigan and Pennsylvania, that should give him 273 electoral votes (269 if NH goes McLame, but should still translate into an Obama victory with a Democratic Congress).

 

Double Trouble

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I admit my armor of certainty is cracking, but my worry is more grand than this election; I truly am worried more than previously I was worried about the future of the country as a whole and the competency of the voting populous. And no hyperbole on this, either. As misanthropic as I am, it does have limits and previously they told me that after 8 years of Bush people would be starving for the antithesis of this terrible rule. And yet here we are with two months left and the race is essentially in a dead heat.

Well said. I don't like Bush in the least, nor do I want to see more of the same, but the landscape has changed (democratic congress), and the reality is that the democrats did not present me with a realistic alternative. McCain is the better choice for the simple matter that a democratic congress with a republican president willing to veto spending bills is better for the country than a democratic congress with a democratic president who will have much pressure on him to not veto anything. Having a congress and white house in the same party hands is disastrous, as the Bush era should have taught us.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Who said McCain will veto spending bills? You fucking moron he voted with Bush 90% of the time and wants to CONTINUE ALL OF BUSH'S ECONOMIC POLICIES. Fuck you are double stupid.
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Republican party is dying. They are the party of the past, the retrograde vine hugging Neanderthal, the insular religious fringe who cling to exclusivity. They are being replaced by the global human who identifies with no race or country, folk who don't get the religious joke. A mighty wave is coming.


Sorry; the country is not filled with hippies.
 

quest55720

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It gives me hope for this country that they are rejecting Obama/Pelosi. I fear for this country if Pelosi becomes the defacto president. Obama will just be a rubber stamp signing into law any crazy thing Pelosi wants with her super majority. To bad the dems did not nominate a moderate who would stand up to the crazy left like Pelosi. A vote for Obama is a vote for 10 dollar fuel and shitty medicare level medical coverage for everyone at the cost of a new tax that will double the tax bill of the working class on up.
 
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I admit my armor of certainty is cracking, but my worry is more grand than this election; I truly am worried more than previously I was worried about the future of the country as a whole and the competency of the voting populous. And no hyperbole on this, either. As misanthropic as I am, it does have limits and previously they told me that after 8 years of Bush people would be starving for the antithesis of this terrible rule. And yet here we are with two months left and the race is essentially in a dead heat.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

I'm not worried about Obama losing, I'm worried about what kind of country we live in that the race is so close. Clinging to God and Guns indeed.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Republican party is dying. They are the party of the past, the retrograde vine hugging Neanderthal, the insular religious fringe who cling to exclusivity. They are being replaced by the global human who identifies with no race or country, folk who don't get the religious joke. A mighty wave is coming.


Sorry; the country is not filled with hippies.

I seen a few pheasants in the valley the other day though.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Republican party is dying. They are the party of the past, the retrograde vine hugging Neanderthal, the insular religious fringe who cling to exclusivity. They are being replaced by the global human who identifies with no race or country, folk who don't get the religious joke. A mighty wave is coming.

Are you a globalist, Moonbeam?
 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Republican party is dying. They are the party of the past, the retrograde vine hugging Neanderthal, the insular religious fringe who cling to exclusivity. They are being replaced by the global human who identifies with no race or country, folk who don't get the religious joke. A mighty wave is coming.
It's this kind of elitist rhetoric that is killing the Democrats. I want Obama to win but when idiiots like you are speaking up, it's difficult to reach that goal. Stow your wingnut sensibilities until after the election if you want Obama to have a chance.
 

OrByte

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democrats are always wringing their hands.

And after the last couple of elections I can't blame them

there is stil alot left of this game to be played.
 

sportage

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All the tv & news talk is on Palin, pigs and lipstick.
What is so unjust is that every word uttered on anything other than the real issues that
concern Americans, is a word wasting the American publics time.

I'll say it again...
Every single word spent on nonsense is a word wasting the publics time.
And time is running out...
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Double Trouble
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I admit my armor of certainty is cracking, but my worry is more grand than this election; I truly am worried more than previously I was worried about the future of the country as a whole and the competency of the voting populous. And no hyperbole on this, either. As misanthropic as I am, it does have limits and previously they told me that after 8 years of Bush people would be starving for the antithesis of this terrible rule. And yet here we are with two months left and the race is essentially in a dead heat.

Well said. I don't like Bush in the least, nor do I want to see more of the same, but the landscape has changed (democratic congress), and the reality is that the democrats did not present me with a realistic alternative. McCain is the better choice for the simple matter that a democratic congress with a republican president willing to veto spending bills is better for the country than a democratic congress with a democratic president who will have much pressure on him to not veto anything. Having a congress and white house in the same party hands is disastrous, as the Bush era should have taught us.

Republicans are not democrats, and having both in the same hands of Republicans is not the same as having both in the same hands as Democrats.

You are mistaken to think otherwise IMO - some of the best and most important things passed in the last century were only passed because of both branches being in the hands of Democrats with a super-majority. What bad came of that? I can see little but the Vietnam War and that had at least as strong backing from the Republicans.

Don't equate them by listing it as same-party versus split-party - pay attention to WHICH party it is.

If you dojn't think that McCain is a huge menace as president with a democratic Congress, you're wrong IMO, starting with how Bush has gotten most of what he wants the last 2 years, like Telephone Spying amnesty *the democratic nominee paid the political price of breaking a promise to oppose*, and McCain will get Supreme Court appointments it appears shifting the radical members to a clear majority.

We need an all-democrat government to clean up the problems.|

What are you so worried about? The Republican lies of 'tax and spend democrats'?

At the height of democratic power in the LBJ great society, it was the last time we balanced the budget until the late 1990's, while Reagan started huge deficits that Bush brought back after Clinton - and when the government went all-democrat under Clinton, it immediately started *reducing* the big Republican deficits.

Are you going to pay attention to the facts?
 
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