Custom installers are still going to be the ones doing those kind of difficult jobs. That Cat-5 cable still needs to go someplace.
People being able to put electronics where it used to be difficult (outside, ceiling/top corner of a room, bathrooms, etc). No longer a worry to have a power cable there as well.
Since HDMI is just DVI + digital sound, I could understand if people weren't fussed about DVI vs HDMI . . . but I don't know how folks can live with VGA.
Doubt anyone could tell the difference in a real world setting.your graphics drivers may allow for overscan/underscan adjustments
HDMI is far superior to VGA
Doubt anyone could tell the difference in a real world setting.
Nope.
HDMI is limited to certain resolutions.
Try getting 1:1 pixel mapping over HDMI at 1366x768. Not going to happen.
screw connectors on the back of a thin tv, not practical
better it pop out than your tv fall over as well.
No, WildW is right, those two are identical, same signal and same pins, I've said a couple times here that you can even get audio out through DVI if the GPU detects an approved DVI->HDMI adapter. If the monitor supports 1366x768, video card will send it over HDMI, just as it can over DVI. It's the TVs that usually only support 720p or 1080p over HDMI, but this is not a fault of HDMI nor the source. GPU won't send native 1366x768 if TV/monitor tells it it can't (or doesn't want to) support that mode over that particular connector.Nope.
HDMI is limited to certain resolutions.
Try getting 1:1 pixel mapping over HDMI at 1366x768. Not going to happen.
Nope.
HDMI is limited to certain resolutions.
Try getting 1:1 pixel mapping over HDMI at 1366x768. Not going to happen.
Do I have to correct your misinformation in every thread?
HDMI does support 1:1 pixel mapping at 1366x768 just fine. It depends on your display's EDID data.
HDMI does in fact suck ass. The connectors are flimsy. The cables are thick and unbendable for any decent length run. There must be something about the protocol because syncing issues are extremely common over HDMI. A 90 degree adapter between the 25' cable and my projector and the image sparkles and cuts out. It's completely unwatchable.
Bring on HDBaseT. The sooner HDMI dies a horrible death the better off the home theater crowd will be. Audio and video over cheap-ass cat 5e? I'll take ten.
You're right. I should have bought a $300 25' cable from Monster. Or maybe they could have a designed a protocol that keeps a quality signal over long distances without needing cables made from unicorn hair and leprechaun farts. A cheap-ass Cat5 cable can be custom cut and crimped for <$5.You're buying crappy cables or something. Half of your complaints are definitely dependent on what cable you buy (quality of the connectors, flexibility), and I'm going to guess the rest might be as well. The issues you describe sound like either a cheap cable that is not properly spec'ed or else your setup.
I can also confirm this, works fine on my HTPC, ATI 4830 HDMI out to a 32" Sony LCD TV 1366 x 768.
Also, to the person that said HDMI isn't any better than VGA because you can get VGA cables molded with digital audio cables, um, you can't get that with support for lossless surround formats, the only way you get that is with HDMI.
You're right. I should have bought a $300 25' cable from Monster. Or maybe they could have a designed a protocol that keeps a quality signal over long distances without needing cables made from unicorn hair and leprechaun farts. A cheap-ass Cat5 cable can be custom cut and crimped for <$5.
As for my setup, plug one end of the cable into the Blu-ray player, the other into the projector. What's wrong there? Maybe the Blu-ray player has a weak transmitter. I still need to buy a decent receiver.
I agree HDMI is a godsend compared to prior video cables. It brought quite a bit to the table with integraded audio and high bandwidth. I'm just saying there are a few issues that would have been solved with some foresight.
I didn't say it wasn't better, i said it didn't meet the stated "far better" than hdmi.
You're right. I should have bought a $300 25' cable from Monster. Or maybe they could have a designed a protocol that keeps a quality signal over long distances without needing cables made from unicorn hair and leprechaun farts. A cheap-ass Cat5 cable can be custom cut and crimped for <$5.
As for my setup, plug one end of the cable into the Blu-ray player, the other into the projector. What's wrong there? Maybe the Blu-ray player has a weak transmitter. I still need to buy a decent receiver.
I agree HDMI is a godsend compared to prior video cables. It brought quite a bit to the table with integraded audio and high bandwidth. I'm just saying there are a few issues that would have been solved with some foresight.
You just trolling or what?Might work sometimes, might not work.I can also confirm this, works fine on my HTPC, ATI 4830 HDMI out to a 32" Sony LCD TV 1366 x 768.
Its not part of the HDMI standard so you are really rolling the dice compared to VGA or DVI which doesn't have defined standard resolutions.
1. Cheap-ass cat5 cables are <100mbps. HDMI is 10.2gbps. A factor of 100 kind of makes a difference...You're right. I should have bought a $300 25' cable from Monster. Or maybe they could have a designed a protocol that keeps a quality signal over long distances without needing cables made from unicorn hair and leprechaun farts. A cheap-ass Cat5 cable can be custom cut and crimped for <$5.
quoted for posterity and fool of the year 2011So what were they thinking when they made HDMI. The resolution is worse than VGA/DVI and the scaling sucks. HDMI and computers don't seem to get along very well. Other than sound, what is the advantage? Sharp edges like text, look crappy in HDMI and the image does not fit the screen. Why did they re-invent the wheel and get it wrong? HDCP is another issue. This past weekend I went to the trouble of installing an HDMI video card in my HTPC and the one movie that I have that is HDCP does not benefit at all from 1080 resolution. Actually, I have found that the new releases are almost as good in DVD as they are in BD. Yeah if you are 3 ft from the screen you can see some difference but sitting on the couch it is really hard to tell. Tonight I went back to VGA interface on the computer when I found out I could not see the borders in windows.
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