What motherboards have Non-Z overclocking enabled for Pentium 3258?

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lolwatpear

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Pretty sure voltage was the limiting factor in my situation, after testing the G3258 in the H81-DS2V I threw it in a Z87 board (with a BIOS update, of course) and it did a glory run at 4.9 at some godawful voltage.

Oh, here it is:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36544430&postcount=116

Amazingly, temps were not an issue even at almost 1.5V with the relatively cheap and common Hyper 212 Evo.

Nice. Yeah, I wish gigabyte didn't limit it to 1.2V.
 

chubbyfatazn

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ASRock H81M-HDS (Micro ATX): OC to 4.5 Ghz at 1.3 volts, see post #19.

Another +1 for this board.

I didn't actually attempt any overclocking (casual build for a friend), but I went into the OC menu and confirmed that the settings were there and able to be changed.

This was after I flashed to BIOS v1.90. Board was paired with an i5 4690k, but I can't see why a G3258 wouldn't work as well.

Note that in my case the board didn't recognize Devil's Canyon with the v1.60 BIOS it came with, even though Asrock's site says it does. So you might need to grab a cheap chip to flash or order a new BIOS chip from Asrock.
 

jrichrds

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I guess I'll go through everything I did incase others are curious. I have the Gigabyte B85M-DS3H and updated to the f6 bios (not sure it make a difference;1 stick of 4gb ram,no video card, 750W Rosewill 80+ gold PSU). I increased the multiplier by 1 until I crashed using the LinX stress test (10min) at 38. I then increased the voltage from 1.1 to 1.2 in .01 increments, and when I hit the 1.2V wall I incrementally increased the vcore offset until CPU-Z read the core voltage as 1.3. Then I downgraded to the f5 bios and did almost the same thing. No matter what I did the results were the same; stable using a 10 min LinX stress test at 3.7MHz, crashing when I moved it to 3.8MHz. I finally accepted my fate and moved my multiplier down to 36 and set the voltage to 1.1.

One quirk I found is the vcore level tends to stick. Whenever I would 'load optimized defaults' the multiplier would go to 32 but the vcore would stay at 1.2 (according to CPU-Z). I would have to change the vcore to 1.185, then 1.17, then 1.155 and so on if I wanted to change the vcore back to 1.1. So maybe I got a dog of a chip or maybe a dog of a motherboard.

I have the same Gigabyte board on f6 bios, and did not realize I could take the vcore even higher than 1.2v. Thanks for pointing that out...have to go find where that vcore offset setting is.

I have my G3258 at 4.3Ghz @ 1.2v (voltage set to AUTO, which tops out at 1.2v). Also at AUTO, the Uncore tops out at 4.0Ghz with a ring voltage of 1.075v.

Have you tried manually setting your Uncore multiplier to 32 to make sure that isn't what's preventing you from overocking more? If it is, you can increase your ring voltage to be able to take the Uncore multiplier higher.
 

archimed

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Aug 31, 2014
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Anybodies know if it's possible to overclock the G3258 on MSI H81i (mini itx) motherboard ?

Thanks
 

crashtech

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It would be great if we could predict which non-Z motherboards supported OCing, but we can't. If you don't see the motherboard you want to know about in the OP, we probably don't know if it will OC. Once you find out if a non listed board OCs, please help others by posting your results!
 

bigdmcc

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Sep 3, 2014
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I guess I'll go through everything I did incase others are curious. I have the Gigabyte B85M-DS3H and updated to the f6 bios (not sure it make a difference;1 stick of 4gb ram,no video card, 750W Rosewill 80+ gold PSU). I increased the multiplier by 1 until I crashed using the LinX stress test (10min) at 38. I then increased the voltage from 1.1 to 1.2 in .01 increments, and when I hit the 1.2V wall I incrementally increased the vcore offset until CPU-Z read the core voltage as 1.3. Then I downgraded to the f5 bios and did almost the same thing. No matter what I did the results were the same; stable using a 10 min LinX stress test at 3.7MHz, crashing when I moved it to 3.8MHz. I finally accepted my fate and moved my multiplier down to 36 and set the voltage to 1.1.

One quirk I found is the vcore level tends to stick. Whenever I would 'load optimized defaults' the multiplier would go to 32 but the vcore would stay at 1.2 (according to CPU-Z). I would have to change the vcore to 1.185, then 1.17, then 1.155 and so on if I wanted to change the vcore back to 1.1. So maybe I got a dog of a chip or maybe a dog of a motherboard.

I'm in pretty much the same boat. ASUS B85M-E. 3.7GHz stable stressing. Running it at 3.8Ghz now, doesn't crash in normal use/gaming. Doesn't get above ~70 degrees. Can you tell me how you use that offset tool to me its a bit confusing. Are you in the + or -? I found that no matter what I set the core voltage to, it wouldn't get hot. Even went up to 1.375 and the thing wouldn't get hot.. So I was able to set the VCCIN at 1.8v, it's called SVIN control or something like that, I set the SVIN Override to 1.8v and the chip got hot and responded a bit to higher Vcore settings. I can now boot Windows at 4.0 Ghz but BSOD's as soon as you open a stress test or get into a game.

I've tried locking the Uncore, Raising UNcore voltage and leaving it auto, using XMP, using Auto for Ram.. I'm no expert clocker and there's plenty of power settings in the BIOS (2001 version) to mess with yet. So any tips as to what else to try?

Cliffs 3.7 - 3.8 Ghz stable G3258 on ASUS B85M-E. 2x4GB Gskill Ripjaws 1600Mhz RAM.
 

d4a2n0k

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Just got an ASUS H97I-Plus with G3258 to mess around with. Im able to change the multiplier in the bios and CPU-Z shows x8-x40 but it still only clocks to 3.2Ghz with Intel Burn Test. I am using the latest 2202 bios. Any ideas?

Quoting myself here but wanted to follow-up to help out others. I was unable to overclock the G3258 on the ASUS H97I-Plus. The BIOS was updated 2 releases ago to show overclocking support for the G3258 but it would not work for me with the latest BIOS. This is my 6th ASUS board since UEFI came out so I am very familiar with overclocking on ASUS. I returned the H97I-Plus and bought a Z97I-Plus and of course using the same settings, it overclocks no problem.
 

s8nlovesme

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Feb 2, 2005
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I am so not impressed witn my G3258/GIGABYTE GA-B85M-DS3H combo. Voltage locked at 1.2 aside. I cant even boot into windows at 3.9ghz 1.2volts. If i bump it down to 3.8 @ 1.2v I can run prime with temps in the low 70's on stock air cooling.
 

crashtech

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I think some G3258s might be duds. I got one that doesn't want to go past 3.9 at any voltage.
 

bigdmcc

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Sep 3, 2014
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Quoting myself here but wanted to follow-up to help out others. I was unable to overclock the G3258 on the ASUS H97I-Plus. The BIOS was updated 2 releases ago to show overclocking support for the G3258 but it would not work for me with the latest BIOS. This is my 6th ASUS board since UEFI came out so I am very familiar with overclocking on ASUS. I returned the H97I-Plus and bought a Z97I-Plus and of course using the same settings, it overclocks no problem.

Did you try other bios versions? I ended up having to go back a few versions to allow it on mine. I read something that about a year ago you could overclock, then they took it away, and now just recently you can overclock again. Anyways sounds like you figured it out either way...
 

bigdmcc

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Sep 3, 2014
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I think some G3258s might be duds. I got one that doesn't want to go past 3.9 at any voltage.

I hope you're wrong but you may be correct. I'm really starting to believe that inferior power phasing on these H and B chipset boards is the cause.

IN MY OPINION, to push one of these chips, or any processor really, towards its' limits you need rock solid steady voltage. I know it reads steady in most monitoring softwares etc, but only 4 phases leaves a massive amount of time for fluctuation when we're talking about how much goes on inside a cpu in one second.

I am no expert and most of my opinions are formed based off dealing with much less sensitive electronics, but if I run a drill press on a single 60hz phase vs a 3 60hz phases, and the difference is enormous on how stable and accurate the tool performs, I can't imagine the worlds of difference it makes in something as precise as a cpu. I've done a bit more extensive work with power phasing than drill motors that's just a good example.
 

bigdmcc

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Sep 3, 2014
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I am so not impressed witn my G3258/GIGABYTE GA-B85M-DS3H combo. Voltage locked at 1.2 aside. I cant even boot into windows at 3.9ghz 1.2volts. If i bump it down to 3.8 @ 1.2v I can run prime with temps in the low 70's on stock air cooling.

Seems to be about average for the rest of us with B85 boards. I just don't think they can provide stable voltage to support these higher frequencies we are asking for. Have you altered your voltage input settings at all? Doing so got me from 3.6 stable to 3.8, maybe you could run 4.0!!! Meanwhile everyone with a Z chipset is running 4.4 without scouring forums!
 

s8nlovesme

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Feb 2, 2005
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I havent tried yet. I mainly built this chaepie rig so my daughter could play minecraft without alsways using her mothers laptop. Right now I have the G3258 running at 3.8. I have 8 gigs of ram, ssd and a 560ti. Was really hoping to push more cycles out of this rig.
 

bigdmcc

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Sep 3, 2014
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I havent tried yet. I mainly built this chaepie rig so my daughter could play minecraft without alsways using her mothers laptop. Right now I have the G3258 running at 3.8. I have 8 gigs of ram, ssd and a 560ti. Was really hoping to push more cycles out of this rig.

Well it should definitely run minecraft! I agree I was hoping to set mine at ~4.2Ghz and forget about it. Oh well newegg accepts returns..... a few extra bucks for a mobo is definitely worth it( I say this now...)
 

s8nlovesme

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Feb 2, 2005
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Well I finally got up to 4.2 on air last night with 1.2v (G3258/GIGABYTE GA-B85M-DS3H). Was able to run prime overnight. My only question is, in order to do this I had to drop my unicore down to 32, so by doing this, am I negating any effects of the overclock by running a lower unicore?
 

bigdmcc

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Sep 3, 2014
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Well I finally got up to 4.2 on air last night with 1.2v (G3258/GIGABYTE GA-B85M-DS3H). Was able to run prime overnight. My only question is, in order to do this I had to drop my unicore down to 32, so by doing this, am I negating any effects of the overclock by running a lower unicore?

Interesting. I locked mine at 32 and nothing changed. You have any other settings changed? Vcore at 1.2, cache locked at 32, and what else if anything? Ram all still stock, running xmp, what ram you got? I'm just trying to find what's different between us and the z chip guys running 4.5+ and some of them under 1.2v.

Still tons of settings in my BIOS untouched mainly because I don't know quite enough about them to tinker.


Sorry can't answer your question. You could do some benchmarking focused on what you're going to use the pc for, maybe bump the cache multiplier up a bit as you go, and compare results, etc.
 

stridervm

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Sep 8, 2014
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Hi, I just registered to inform you of the overclocking results in the G3258 with a low budget motherboard.

So here are the results :
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e95/stridervm/G3258_zpsddb35031.png

It's using an Asus H81M-D using the latest BIOS and the CPU is running @4.2 Ghz w/1.15v on the CPU.

Edit : Latest I'm running is now @4.3Ghz still at 1.15v on the CPU. (Sudden reboot on 4.4Ghz while in Prime.)

Currently running Prime95 on two threads for about 10 minutes now. But since temps are now 70c. It's probably the highest OC I will be comfortable with. I have a Coolmaster Vortex. Is such temps expected? Is anyone in this thread using only the Stock Intel Heatsink/Fan? Are your temps similar or higher?
 
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VirtualLarry

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Well, my first G3258 / H81M-DS2V combo, I got to 3.9Ghz, just by changing CPU ratio.

If I set it to 40, it won't boot, goes into boot recovery. (Nice, I don't have to clear CMOS.)

Board seems limited to 1.2v, even when I set the CPU VCore to "Normal", and then set Offset to "+.100", it still shows 1.2v vcore in monitoring, when I reboot and go back into BIOS.

The good news is, I am able to get HDMI audio with the driver posted on the Gigabyte.com web site, out of this board's DVI port, using an ATI/AMD DVI-to-HDMI adaptor ($5 shipped on ebay).
 

bigdmcc

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Sep 3, 2014
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I can boot at 4.0 but that was after I changed the Voltage INput. Set it at 1.8 and I can boot 4.2, just creashes when you do anything. 3.8 stable I'll live with it for now.
 

Grationic

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Sep 12, 2014
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I was able to overclock the g3258 by changing the cpu multiplier using the hover over and type trick. I am still testing the limits but I'm running into an issue. In CPU-Z my Core Voltage is showing at .152V, even when not overclocked. I know this can't be right, anyone have any idea why its showing this?

http://imgur.com/1Lza1sL

Based on this website http://www.reviewstudio.net/1877-in...review-the-cheapest-overclocking/overclocking and the 1.152 voltage, could the system be dropping the 1 to make it into 0.152?
 
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Geekstere

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Sep 14, 2014
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Hello there , i'm from france and i need to know if this CPU is better than the AMD Athlon 750K after overclock .

Wich of these CPU is better for gaming (like BF4 / GTA IV, NFS MW )
It will be coupled to AMD R9 270 and an Asus H81m C

Many thanks for a reply

Sorry for my bad english
 
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