What motherboards have Non-Z overclocking enabled for Pentium 3258?

[smokarz]

The G3258 is a decent chip run at stock for the purposes you list, just saying....

If you really want to OC, take a look at post #1 and the boards listed. If you are more inclined, read through the entire thread for hints on OC'ing this chip... it's not as easy as you might think because you are typically using a board not intended to OC on... the problem I'm having right now with my Gigabyte H81M-H board.

And, as always... your results may vary. :sneaky:

Please pardon my ignorance, since I am completely new to this.

But, isn't OC just a matter of changing the voltage and multiplier in the Bios settings?

If I am incorrect, please enlighten me.

 

[Dan-H]

If anyone out there is familiar with the Gigabyte BIOS and can lend a hand, I'd appreciate it!

It is a different board, but my guess is the BIOS is similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LazZv1FIwQ

I used it to OC my MALAY labeled G3258 to 4.2 Ghz at 1.2Volt on the Gigabyte B85 DS3H.

It was running a little hot with the stock cooler running prime95 so I backed it off to 4.0.

It is now running Linux (Ubunto 14.04 LTS) and runs cool and stable at 4.0Ghz with the stock cooler. Even running "stress c 2" max temps are low-mid 60C.

good luck with yours.

 

[Charlie98]

Please pardon my ignorance, since I am completely new to this.

But, isn't OC just a matter of changing the voltage and multiplier in the Bios settings?

If I am incorrect, please enlighten me.

It can be, and often is. The problem, as I have experienced, are boards that are not built to overclock (Z-chipsets, i.e: Z97) very often can't deliver enough voltage to ensure a stable overclock... it is more than just cranking up the Vcore (voltage to core) and bumping up the CPU multiplier, in some cases the boards are not designed to deliver adequate voltage to maintain a stable overclock.

Personally, if you are new to overclocking, the G3258 and a non-Z chipset is not the place to start. As I mentioned... the G3258 is a reasonable chip to start with for basic PC needs... no need to OC. If you insist on OC'ing, I would probably pick an ASRock or Asus motherboard, simply because Gigabyte restricts the core voltage (etc) too much.

 

[crashtech]

I think many are beginning with the G3258 because it is cheap. But what we have found is that some of them just won't do what is being widely claimed, e.g. "4.5GHz easily."

But even a G3258 that might only do 3.8GHz for $70 would be better than a G3250 that will only do 3.2GHz for $72.

 

[jelsomyno]

sadly it appeared that 4.2 ghz that i wrote about before is not stable, i had to lower it to 3.9. i guess it happens because i do not adjust voltages, only ratio.

 

[VirtualLarry]

in some cases the boards are not designed to deliver adequate voltage to maintain a stable overclock.

You can say that again. I just noticed, when I was in the BIOS today, on my G3258 / GA-H81M-DS2V rig, that the VRIN voltage was being reported as 1.72v. Isn't that supposed to be 1.8v? It was set on "AUTO", and vcore is set to 1.2v (the max the board supports).

Anyways, it appears to be pretty-much stable at 3.8Ghz, but I wasn't stable at 3.9, and wouldn't boot at 4.0.

 

[Charlie98]

You can say that again. I just noticed, when I was in the BIOS today, on my G3258 / GA-H81M-DS2V rig, that the VRIN voltage was being reported as 1.72v. Isn't that supposed to be 1.8v? It was set on "AUTO", and vcore is set to 1.2v (the max the board supports).

Anyways, it appears to be pretty-much stable at 3.8Ghz, but I wasn't stable at 3.9, and wouldn't boot at 4.0.

Larry, our boards are very smiliar, and our results are almost the same...

I was not able to get Vrin over 1.7v... bump it to 1.701v and it defaults back to AUTO.

You might want to try leaving Vrin where it is and lowering Vcore... because I don't think the board can take delivering 1.20v Vcore and delivering power everywhere else. I'm stable at 1.17v Vcore with the Vrin maxed at 1.7v @ 3.8GHz. Not great but I think it's pretty good considering the board/chip combo.

 

[Feedel_Casthrow]

Overclocked G3258 on MSI H81M-P33 4.7GHz 1.26V

Temps stay nicely under 70C under 100% load stress testing with prime95 and IntelBurnTest, and 30C idle. Here's a CPUz screenshot. Not sure why the voltage doesn't show up properly, but it always shows that number no matter what I set the Vcore to.

EDIT: Realized this board goes to 1.35V and not just 1.3V like I initially thought. Played around with 4.8GHz and arrived at this overclock. Stable so far after testing with IntelBurnTest for 40 minutes with 4GB of RAM. Vcore set at 1.34V, uncore frequency is 4.1Ghz and 1.1 Vuncore.

 

[Raal]

I've managed to reach 4.5 ghz on an Asrock H81M-ITX @ 1.4v. Will post screenshots tomorrow

 

[StrangerGuy]

I hope you're wrong but you may be correct. I'm really starting to believe that inferior power phasing on these H and B chipset boards is the cause.

IN MY OPINION, to push one of these chips, or any processor really, towards its' limits you need rock solid steady voltage. I know it reads steady in most monitoring softwares etc, but only 4 phases leaves a massive amount of time for fluctuation when we're talking about how much goes on inside a cpu in one second.

I am no expert and most of my opinions are formed based off dealing with much less sensitive electronics, but if I run a drill press on a single 60hz phase vs a 3 60hz phases, and the difference is enormous on how stable and accurate the tool performs, I can't imagine the worlds of difference it makes in something as precise as a cpu. I've done a bit more extensive work with power phasing than drill motors that's just a good example.

The fact that every mobo maker has a H81 mobo that officially supports a 4790K makes your argument moot.

How about G3528 aren't binned well as a whole to start with, because the 4790K only needs 1.1V for 4.2GHz. Heck, some of the peeps here can't even break 4GHz with a dual core at 1.2V.

 

[podbor]

OC on MSI H81-P33 (ATX)

Intel G3258 @ 4.0Ghz AutoV, Raijintek Themis
Intel G3258 @ 4.2Ghz AutoV, Raijintek Themis
Intel G3258 @ 4.3Ghz 1.200V, Raijintek Themis
Intel G3258 @ 4,4Ghz 1.268V, Raijintek Themis

I didnt go further cause mine core voltage would be too high for me to go up and stay at 4,5Ghz, it would be like 1.3V to be stable and its too much I think. That was my goal, but I needed to stay down at 4,4Ghz.
I tested it with prime95 with BLEND option for 1,5h, temp was max 68C, stable at 59-62C.

 

[Reddyner]

Motherboard : H81M-C
BIOS version : 2202
CPU : G3258 (stock cooler)
RAM : 1x CRUCIAL 4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9,

Hello, i need some help. I can´t manage to OC the G3258 on my H81M-C. It always reboots right when the windows logo should start to appear, no matter what settings I set in my BIOS, either the voltage or the clock ratio. Even with 33 clock ratio, it reboots right before the windows logo. I´ve set the Boot Performance to Turbo mode as someone here mentioned, but it is still the same. My goal is to reach at least 3.8 ghz ovecrlock. Please, do you have any suggestions? Oh, and I´m a bit newb to OCing.

 

[hudane]

I Can get 3.8Ghz @ 1.150v stable
In Asrock H81M-VG4 R2.0
And 74c max in prime95 stress test
Intel stock cooler

And why i can't manage to get more than 4.0ghz even when the vcore increased to 1.25v it always bsod if i oced more than 4.0 ghz.

And sorry for my bad english

 

[Flapdrol1337]

Motherboard : H81M-C
BIOS version : 2202
CPU : G3258 (stock cooler)
RAM : 1x CRUCIAL 4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9,

Hello, i need some help. I can´t manage to OC the G3258 on my H81M-C. It always reboots right when the windows logo should start to appear, no matter what settings I set in my BIOS, either the voltage or the clock ratio. Even with 33 clock ratio, it reboots right before the windows logo. I´ve set the Boot Performance to Turbo mode as someone here mentioned, but it is still the same. My goal is to reach at least 3.8 ghz ovecrlock. Please, do you have any suggestions? Oh, and I´m a bit newb to OCing.

strange, are there any presets? and is the bios version the latest?

 

[cyborg1024]

Quoting myself here but wanted to follow-up to help out others. I was unable to overclock the G3258 on the ASUS H97I-Plus. The BIOS was updated 2 releases ago to show overclocking support for the G3258 but it would not work for me with the latest BIOS. This is my 6th ASUS board since UEFI came out so I am very familiar with overclocking on ASUS. I returned the H97I-Plus and bought a Z97I-Plus and of course using the same settings, it overclocks no problem.

This Chip will overclock using turbo feature on the H97i-Plus which can be verified by bench mark tests >> I had the same issue and contacted ASUS. Apparently what you can affect on this board is the Turbo speed (max Ratio) Windows will still report it as 3200, however ASUS AI suite and other utilities that can display the turbo value will show the correct speed. Using ALL CPU Meter will even work if you select display turbo clock speed and load the additional plug in required. You can verify with the Intel Burn in test that its running faster as well by the shorter duration to complete and Re-Running Windows Assessment will yield a higher score. So for this board when you change the max multiplier it will clock up to that speed under load. If you set 38X100 it will ramp up to 3.8GHz, I do not recommend going above 4.3GHz with stock cooling. I hit 90C in the Intel test so Im getting a better cooler to handle the over clock, I dropped down to 4GHz and I'm in the 60C range as measured with Core temp. Also since C stepping is engaged it runs much cooler when not under full torture load. Hope this helps!

 

[Charlie98]

Motherboard : H81M-C
BIOS version : 2202
CPU : G3258 (stock cooler)
RAM : 1x CRUCIAL 4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9,

Hello, i need some help. I can´t manage to OC the G3258 on my H81M-C. It always reboots right when the windows logo should start to appear, no matter what settings I set in my BIOS, either the voltage or the clock ratio. Even with 33 clock ratio, it reboots right before the windows logo. I´ve set the Boot Performance to Turbo mode as someone here mentioned, but it is still the same. My goal is to reach at least 3.8 ghz ovecrlock. Please, do you have any suggestions? Oh, and I´m a bit newb to OCing.

It looks like your BIOS is current enough. Have you reset the CMOS and just tried booting at stock clocks and settings? What OS are you booting into? What kind of drive?

 

[Reddyner]

It looks like your BIOS is current enough. Have you reset the CMOS and just tried booting at stock clocks and settings? What OS are you booting into? What kind of drive?

To clear it up, it´s not like I can´t boot at all, when I reset to default clocks and settings, it boots smoothly. I´m running Windows 7 Home Premium and flashed the latest BIOS.
It seems to me like there is some safety setting in BIOS (or even in my OS) that I´m missing, to prevent the system from overclock.

 

[Charlie98]

To clear it up, it´s not like I can´t boot at all, when I reset to default clocks and settings, it boots smoothly. I´m running Windows 7 Home Premium and flashed the latest BIOS.
It seems to me like there is some safety setting in BIOS (or even in my OS) that I´m missing, to prevent the system from overclock.

OK... now I understand. You will need to check and make sure you have the latest BIOS... some of them are a little late to the party with the OC gig.

First thing, and this is borne of my experience OC'ing my G3258, don't immediately pump up the voltage, leave it on auto for now, BUT, I would bump up the Vrin, to see if you can stabilize it, and work your way up in .2GHz steps. My chip did not respond well to a lot of voltage, but I've concluded part of that is the mobo and it's power delivery. YMMV.

 

[l1ttlelulu]

Hey,
is there any information about the overclocking capability of the normal ASRock H81M? I'd like to have the extra PCIe slot.

 

[chesleywan]

Just joined the forum for this thread. I'm running my G3258 on an MSI H81I and didn't see much discussion about this particular board here. I just updated the BIOS to Version 10.5 and the CPU Ratio can be cranked up to 80 without any tricks, such as mouse hovering or manual value insertions.

To be honest, I haven't overclocked in the past, but from what I've read so far, I can start with the CPU Ratio/multiplier, followed by voltage adjustments for stability. If anyone else has had experience overclocking the G3258 on this board, your help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Reddyner]

OK... now I understand. You will need to check and make sure you have the latest BIOS... some of them are a little late to the party with the OC gig.

First thing, and this is borne of my experience OC'ing my G3258, don't immediately pump up the voltage, leave it on auto for now, BUT, I would bump up the Vrin, to see if you can stabilize it, and work your way up in .2GHz steps. My chip did not respond well to a lot of voltage, but I've concluded part of that is the mobo and it's power delivery. YMMV.

I did some research on other sites and found this. Something is blocking the turbo mode or the turbo mode doesn´t work at all!! I have the option in BIOS, but it does nothing, if I set it on Enabled or Disabled, it still reboots at the windows logo screen (when I increase the multiplier - tried to increase every voltage option, disabled/enabled every function like EIST, C1E).
Then I ran across the program called ThrottleStop and it confirms my my speculations. It has an option to increase the multiplier in Windows. When I put the multiplier to 40, the CPU-Z shows my current core speed at 3200 MHZ. BUT the multiplier in CPU-Z shows this : x 32.0 (8 - 40). So my system detects that setting, but the turbo mode never applies, it just won´t run a single digit above 3200 mhz, where turbo should start. On the other hand, downclocking affects my core speed immediately without any problems.
The only thing which I didn´t try and which I´m avoiding right now is reinstalling my OS (though I really don´t know how it should solve anything).
Of course there is a possibilty I have a faulty board right from the start (bought it last December). I even changed the order from H81M-K to H81M-C so i can OC it. Looks like I picked the one that can´t OC the G3258 as well, at least in my case.

 

[Reddyner]

OK.

Finnaly, I´ve found the problem!!

I tried to put in my old HDD with similar OS and even without my MB drivers on it, I managed to Overclock it! Now the only difference that I know of, is that the old HDD has IDE method of SATA on it,instead of the AHCI.Don´t know how that could affect the OC though.
I will try to reinstall the system on my new HDD so I can use that one, but I actually find my solution.

 

[ElFenix]

the asrock h97m-itx/ac supports g3258 overclocking per this newegg review:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Single...viewid=4135033

 

[tenpole]

This thread is linked in quite a few different forums and tech pages. Going for the MSI H81m P33 after reading through the thread. Was going to get a Gigabyte board but changed my mind.

 

[LeToasted]

Hey guys, Im working on a msi h81-e33 and i got this results
-4.2 at 1.27v (ring ratio auto / ring vcore auto)
-4.3 at 1.33v (ring ratio auto / ring vcore auto)
-4.4 the OS don't even load if the vcore is below 1.38 (even i tried to downclock the ring ratio)

Am i doing something wrong or i just have a really bad luck?