What? No government shutdown threads?

[MagickMan]

I don't know what reality you are living in. Outside a couple professions and retail/hospitality, the labor market is still quite difficult for most people looking for work. Not only that the labor market is still be squeezed and wages are still being depressed.

I guess they'd better get those resumes nice and shiny then, right? :awe:

 

[shadow9d9]

they lost 2010? Oh i see, losing one election is "keep losing elections"

2006, 2008, 2012.

 

[MagickMan]

yeah, 1 million more unemployed. you really think that's realistic? screw the tea party for ruining our government and fucking over the middle class. AGAIN

Actually, no, you really should go look at the budget office report on this, it's only affecting 90k federal employees and 150k contractors, who are mostly just temps to begin with. All the drama being stirred doesn't change the facts, guys. :hmm:

 

[Texashiker]

yeah, 1 million more unemployed. you really think that's realistic? screw the tea party for ruining our government and fucking over the middle class. AGAIN

It is not the governments job to support the middle class.

It is not the governments job to support financial markets.

It is not the governments job to support international markets.

The federal governments needs to get back to what it was intended to do, and that is little of nothing.

 

[MagickMan]

2006, 2008, 2012.

2006 and 2012 were a split, technically.

 

[IronWing]

800,000 middle class federal workers plus untold hundreds of thousands of contract workers were laid off today as a result of the Republicans good cop-bat shit crazy cop skit. Way to go Republicans!

Also: MagikMan is lying or grossly misinformed.

 

[Matt1970]

2006, 2008, 2012.

1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2010

 

[Texashiker]

800,000 middle class federal workers plus untold hundreds of thousands of contract workers were laid off today

The government should not be employing that many people to start with.

 

[evident]

most likely a delusional prick who can't see how many people will suffer for political grandstanding, or probably just doesn't care about his fellow americans.

 

[Matt1970]

800,000 middle class federal workers plus untold hundreds of thousands of contract workers were laid off today as a result of the Republicans good cop-bat shit crazy cop skit. Way to go Republicans!

Also: MagikMan is lying or grossly misinformed.

50 Million people were forced to buy something they didn't want and couldn't afford today. Way to go Democrats!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/325691-reid-rejects-house-gop-offer-to-appoint-conferees-

Hmm... but it's the R's who are the terrorists/hostage takers.

He has a bill that is passed by the House so these claims of "the only way to fund" is nothing but a lie.

Reid said Thursday that he had not had a single conversation with Boehner in recent days.
“There’s no need for conversations," he told reporters.

lol @ you liberal apologists.

 

[Brainonska511]

The government should not be employing that many people to start with.

Why not? That's very arbitrary reasoning.

 

[Texashiker]

most likely a delusional prick who can't see how many people will suffer for political grandstanding, or probably just doesn't care about his fellow americans.

Those "people" need to get off the tax payers tit and get a real job.

Why not? That's very arbitrary reasoning.

The federal government has grown into something it was never intended to be.

The founding fathers wanted a balanced small government, not something that regulates and taxes everything.

 

[MagickMan]

800,000 middle class federal workers plus untold hundreds of thousands of contract workers were laid off today as a result of the Republicans good cop-bat shit crazy cop skit. Way to go Republicans!

Also: MagikMan is lying or grossly misinformed.

No, I'm not, but I see you're buying the bullshit that DC is selling. That's typical.

 

[MagickMan]

most likely a delusional prick who can't see how many people will suffer for political grandstanding, or probably just doesn't care about his fellow americans.

Awww... is it mad? Poor baby.

 

[AViking]

It's going to affect lots of people in lots of ways.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Those "people" need to get off the tax payers tit and get a real job.




The federal government has grown into something it was never intended to be.

The founding fathers wanted a balanced small government, not something that regulates and taxes everything.

Trying to reason with Gov't worshipers is a losing proposition, but kuddos for trying.

 

[MagickMan]

The federal government has grown into something it was never intended to be.

The founding fathers wanted a balanced small government, not something that regulates and taxes everything.

Yep, fuck `em, time to go out and find work in the private sector. It's about time the federal government was cut down in size.

 

[fskimospy]

You're completely delusional. The debt ceiling being raised only affects new spending, not outstanding debt or current ratings. Take an economics course, seriously.

Lol, the guy who clearly doesn't understand debt/GDP ratio tries to tell me to take an economics course. What a joke. By the way while we're on the topic of economics, feel free to send me some links to some who feel the same way about the debt ceiling as you do.

Now, back to debt/GDP ratio. What I was trying to get you to figure out for yourself in pointing out the denominator in debt/GDP ratio is that government spending is a component of GDP. When you cut government spending, you cut GDP. In a depressed economy such as ours, the evidence strongly suggests that fiscal multipliers for deficit spending are greater than 1. This means that stopping new deficit spending makes our debt situation WORSE, not better.

Hence, if you want to control our debt situation better, you raise the debt ceiling. (not to mention the other bad effects like mass unemployment, etc).

So in the future before telling someone to take an economics course, you might want to brush up some yourself.

 

[Nintendesert]

Republicans are going to lose on this. I'm not voting for any of them that are keeping this game going. I hardly ever vote Democrat.

If they want to change the law, then pass new law. They don't have the votes for it so they are playing these budget games. Do your job and pass a budget! If the ACA is expensive, if it sucks, then good for them. Then they give America exactly what it voted for and asked for. Then you win the next election. These short sighted morons are simply costing themselves yet another election for this idiotic posturing.

 

[Nintendesert]

Yep, fuck `em, time to go out and find work in the private sector. It's about time the federal government was cut down in size.

See, what a spiteful hateful little man. This is the kind of retarded the Republicans are catering too. GG next election.

 

[Texashiker]

Trying to reason with Gov't worshipers is a losing proposition, but kuddos for trying.

Thank you.

Yep, fuck `em, time to go out and find work in the private sector. It's about time the federal government was cut down in size.

That is exactly right.

The federal government has swelled to an unmentionable behemoth.

Maybe with the shutdown agencies like the EPA, IRS, and the BATF will stop terrorizing citizens.

 

[nixium]

So much fun watching the ravings of the morally bankrupt tea partiers in this thread.

I guess they'll never realize the impact of their proposals unless someone close to them suffers.

Even then I doubt they have the ability to empathize, they seem like a bunch of sociopaths.

All I know is that my friend will finally be able to afford HI and have her ribs checked out without freeloading in the ER like many of the hypocritical teahadists here have suggested.

 

[MagickMan]

Lol, the guy who clearly doesn't understand debt/GDP ratio tries to tell me to take an economics course. What a joke. By the way while we're on the topic of economics, feel free to send me some links to some who feel the same way about the debt ceiling as you do.

Now, back to debt/GDP ratio. What I was trying to get you to figure out for yourself in pointing out the denominator in debt/GDP ratio is that government spending is a component of GDP. When you cut government spending, you cut GDP. In a depressed economy such as ours, the evidence strongly suggests that fiscal multipliers for deficit spending are greater than 1. This means that stopping new deficit spending makes our debt situation WORSE, not better.

Hence, if you want to control our debt situation better, you raise the debt ceiling. (not to mention the other bad effects like mass unemployment, etc).

So in the future before telling someone to take an economics course, you might want to brush up some yourself.

You want to increase the GDP by further increasing new spending, increasing our debt load and flooding the market with more US paper (that we can't even cover now, much less at an increase of an additional 12% year-over-year)? Are you retarded? GDP increase by private business and investment = good, higher GDP by maxing out our credit every year = bad.

Yes, I'm saying you're a joke, and a partisan hack who only reads talking points. You're cordially invited to go fuck yourself.

 

[nixium]

See, what a spiteful hateful little man. This is the kind of retarded the Republicans are catering too. GG next election.

Like I said, morally bankrupt.

It's all about him, fuck society.

Maybe he'd empathize if he had a loved one in the sector, but I doubt it. His posts make him sound like a narcissistic sociopath.