What percentage of your pre-tax income goes towards your mortgage?

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Hugo Drax

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My primary residence Miami, has no mortgage it is paid off. For the other home, it is a small percentage. One is in Miami the other in Brooklyn heights. I bought both way before the property bubbles.
 

AdamK47

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Oct 9, 1999
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8.7% for mortgage with escrow if I were to pay the minimum each month.

Hope to get that down to 0% in 7.5 years.
 

minendo

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Having constantly saved I was fortunate enough to buy my house outright last year when we relocated to the Houston area. Guess that makes me baller.
 

highland145

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Around here it is 3-4% of the value of the property each year.
4%, here.

Our house prices were "normal" until the boom of 2005(?). We paid $75k for ~1400 spft in 1995. I added ~500spft and thought about selling during the boom. The realtor put it on the market for $260K.... Fortunately, it didn't sell. Also, fortunately, the property tax is rate capped and can only go up 5% every so many years (5 I think). A new buyer would pay tax on the sell price. Also, the school tax is put on the vehicles and not on the house you live in (rentals pay the school tax and 6%). So my house tax is just under $500 and the truck taxes is just over $500.

My bro-in-law lives above White Plains NY. They paid $500K for their 2800spft and their taxes is $12K/year.

My sister's rental is county appraised at ~$70K and her tax was $1100.
 

Engineer

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4%, here.

Our house prices were "normal" until the boom of 2005(?). We paid $75k for ~1400 spft in 1995. I added ~500spft and thought about selling during the boom. The realtor put it on the market for $260K.... Fortunately, it didn't sell. Also, fortunately, the property tax is rate capped and can only go up 5% every so many years (5 I think). A new buyer would pay tax on the sell price. Also, the school tax is put on the vehicles and not on the house you live in (rentals pay the school tax and 6%). So my house tax is just under $500 and the truck taxes is just over $500.

My bro-in-law lives above White Plains NY. They paid $500K for their 2800spft and their taxes is $12K/year.

My sister's rental is county appraised at ~$70K and her tax was $1100.

I'm confused...4% property taxes = $500? Maybe I misread something?

Property taxes here are around 1.1 to 1.2% per year. The appraised value of the house has been the same for at least 7 years but the tax rate has also inched up during those 7 years with school portion being most of it (of course, we have two city income taxes with one of them being a school tax so there's even more taxes but that's for another thread).
 
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Zorba

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Oct 22, 1999
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I own outright now. When had the mortgage the required payment was about 7.5% (no escrow). But we actually were paying 4x that, or 27%, which is why paid the bitch off in 20 months.

So I guess I live in a 2500 square foot cardboard box.
 

highland145

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I'm confused...4% property taxes = $500? Maybe I misread something?

Property taxes here are around 1.1 to 1.2% per year. The appraised value of the house has been the same for at least 7 years but the tax rate has also inched up during those 7 years with school portion being most of it (of course, we have two city income taxes with one of them being a school tax so there's even more taxes but that's for another thread).
The county tells us we pay 4% (6% for rentals) of the county appraised value. But, if we live in the house, we don't pay the school part of the tax,

Also, I haven't paid any attention that the % is actually correct. It surly does look like we're not paying the % they say. I'll look at it closer when the $$ goes up. Otherwise...not.

If you're interested, Monday, I'll look up the #s and what I pay.
 

96Firebird

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Nov 8, 2010
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Soon to be about 25%, when I find a house. Looking to have a mortgage ~$1200/month including our ridiculously high property taxes.
 

splat_ed

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About 11% for us. (Actually it's probably close to 20% as we're paying it off faster)
The bank's recommendation was below 30%
 

Dr. Zaus

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Oct 16, 2008
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Geeks buying houses to maximize price to performance!

.20 pre-tax; and post tax .24

100k is what my wife could earn teaching & researching.

-28000 alternative minimum tax
-15000 additional student loans (over first 10 years)
-9100 payroll
-24000 Autism Treatment (equivalent of what she provides us)

24k does not justify teaching over independent writing.

.11 pre-tax; and post tax .20

Working means society gets a specialist and we get to round down!
 
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TheSiege

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$800 a month mortgage, is actually going to drop to $660 a month next year since the 20 part of my 80/20 loan will be paid off next year, I only owe 7k on that portion anyway. I made 72k last year. So 13.3 pretax soon to drop to 11% but I will probably make less this year so who knows.
 

highland145

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I'm confused...4% property taxes = $500? Maybe I misread something?

Property taxes here are around 1.1 to 1.2% per year. The appraised value of the house has been the same for at least 7 years but the tax rate has also inched up during those 7 years with school portion being most of it (of course, we have two city income taxes with one of them being a school tax so there's even more taxes but that's for another thread).
And I just remembered it's not a 4% of the value. It's some formula based on the millage rate.
 
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Depends how you calculate it. Do you include escrow? What if you put extra into principle?

My wife lives by the notion that ALL DEBT IS EVIL!!! and makes me pay more to principle every month.

But anyhow, if we just include the base monthly amount (with escrow). That would be the equivalent of approx 6.5% of our household pre-tax income.
 

gururu2

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30% of your income is nothing if all other expenses amount to <50% of your income. Being able to save/invest >20% is a very good position to be in as long as you are beating the 3-4% fully deductible mortgage interest.
 

Engineer

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And I just remembered it's not a 4% of the value. It's some formula based on the millage rate.

All I know is that's damn cheap what you pay on your house vs what I pay (and much, much cheaper than what others in this thread pay).

It irks me that we pay garbage service based on how much our house is worth. The people across the street in a much smaller home pay much less than we do for trash service (via property tax) because they have a much smaller home. However, they have 7 people in the house and we have 3. They produce far more trash than we do yet pay far less.

On the other side of town, people pay a monthly fee for trash service and it's based on the number of cans you have, not your home size (it's also not run by the city - it's a private service).
 

Dr. Zaus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2008
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All I know is that's damn cheap what you pay on your house vs what I pay (and much, much cheaper than what others in this thread pay).

It irks me that we pay garbage service based on how much our house is worth. The people across the street in a much smaller home pay much less than we do for trash service (via property tax) because they have a much smaller home. However, they have 7 people in the house and we have 3. They produce far more trash than we do yet pay far less.

On the other side of town, people pay a monthly fee for trash service and it's based on the number of cans you have, not your home size (it's also not run by the city - it's a private service).

Allocating property tax to trash is asinine.

Private services are otherwise more expensive.
 
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Nov 8, 2012
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All I know is that's damn cheap what you pay on your house vs what I pay (and much, much cheaper than what others in this thread pay).

It irks me that we pay garbage service based on how much our house is worth. The people across the street in a much smaller home pay much less than we do for trash service (via property tax) because they have a much smaller home. However, they have 7 people in the house and we have 3. They produce far more trash than we do yet pay far less.

On the other side of town, people pay a monthly fee for trash service and it's based on the number of cans you have, not your home size (it's also not run by the city - it's a private service).

Oh good, you're starting to learn how our tax system works in general! Top 25% feeds the bottom 75%. You're learning!
 

child of wonder

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13.5% of pre-tax income pays P&I, property tax, and home owner's insurance. Factoring in my average monthly commission check, it becomes 10.8%.
 
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