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Crono

Lifer
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One time I bought some stuff from some Libyans and it didn't turn out well.

 

MrSquished

Lifer
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You're right. It's $12 here.



at Del Friscos steakhouse in NYC, one of the best in the city, a side of their mash is $13.50

Going there this week or next with friends. It's way above my paygrade but once in a blue moon I'll splurge. You can find amazing dinners for far less in the city. But steakhouses are steakhouses. An ex-gf took me there once and it was amazing. We went all out, apps, drinks galore, nice steaks. Bill was close to 400

I'm planning to keep it at around $100 for me - one ribeye steak at around $52, one mash at $13.50, and 2 bourbon drinks. No app

Yum
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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My house. It was my first house, and I learned the tough truth that you can't trust home inspectors to be that competent... regardless of reviews. Either get multiple inspectors, or have some friends that know a few things. In this case, it's more eyes the better! In my case, if half of the what-should-have-been-obvious things were pointed out to me prior to purchasing, I would've either asked for a 10-20% reduction in price, or just not purchased the house. I also learned some things like never accept a home warranty in lieu of something being old on the house. They gave me a home warranty lieu of the HVAC being old, but the HVAC being so ancient (14 years -- I found that out a lot later as no one knew how old it was or the sellers were just faking not knowing) just cost me tons of money every month that it kept trucking along during the 1-year warranty. I would've rather asked for about $5k off as that's about half of what it would cost to get a good HVAC system replacement.

My car. So, I like my car overall, but if I had to do it over, I would've just kept my '07 Altima 3.5SL. The biggest reason to upgrade for me was my love of technology, and it was really the difficulty of adding safety-oriented features like more steering wheel buttons that made me lean away from simply upgrading a head unit or something. I like having buttons on the wheel to keep me from fishing for a dash button. Now, I realize that I'm sort of stuck in the same situation where my '13 Taurus has MyFord Touch, and Ford refuses to release an official upgrade to the far more responsive Sync 3!
 

Imp

Lifer
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My house. It was my first house, and I learned the tough truth that you can't trust home inspectors to be that competent... regardless of reviews. Either get multiple inspectors, or have some friends that know a few things.

I started thinking about that one a while ago... Call an electrician for electrical work, plumber for waterworks, structural engineer for structure related, HVAC guy for HVAC, architect/contractor for other, etc.

Some of those professions require years of training, experience, and a license. How is it that one "home inspector" can supposedly do all of those...
 

dullard

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May 21, 2001
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My house. It was my first house, and I learned the tough truth that you can't trust home inspectors to be that competent... regardless of reviews. Either get multiple inspectors, or have some friends that know a few things. In this case, it's more eyes the better! In my case, if half of the what-should-have-been-obvious things were pointed out to me prior to purchasing, I would've either asked for a 10-20% reduction in price, or just not purchased the house. I also learned some things like never accept a home warranty in lieu of something being old on the house. They gave me a home warranty lieu of the HVAC being old, but the HVAC being so ancient (14 years -- I found that out a lot later as no one knew how old it was or the sellers were just faking not knowing) just cost me tons of money every month that it kept trucking along during the 1-year warranty. I would've rather asked for about $5k off as that's about half of what it would cost to get a good HVAC system replacement.
Home inspectors are often incompetent or simply cannot do their job properly due to constraints. For example, to search for most problems, they would need to cut open the walls, ceiling, get into the attic, etc. They can't do that for obvious reasons (can't destroy the walls for a house they don't own) and cost reasons (actually getting into the attic may take so many additional hours that it makes it unprofitable to be a home inspector). You can buy as many home inspections as you want, but they won't do anything that you couldn't easily do by walking around with your eyes open.

A good home inspection is easy to do yourself and you are the ONLY one with the time and the financial incentive to actually do it properly. If the walls are not vertical, don't buy. If there are water stains on the basement walls and a musty smell, don't buy. If there are mud trails along the exposed wood, don't buy. If there is any gap or crack that lets water through or into the siding, don't buy. Etc. If the HVAC is older than 10 years, you know it is on its last legs, so buy with that in mind.

My biggest regret too is buying my first house. Days later my wife at the time started cheating on me. After the divorce I didn't need the space of a house, nor the upkeep of the yard.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Home inspectors are often incompetent or simply cannot do their job properly due to constraints. For example, to search for most problems, they would need to cut open the walls, ceiling, get into the attic, etc. They can't do that for obvious reasons (can't destroy the walls for a house they don't own) and cost reasons (actually getting into the attic may take so many additional hours that it makes it unprofitable to be a home inspector). You can buy as many home inspections as you want, but they won't do anything that you couldn't easily do by walking around with your eyes open.

Instead, even the best home inspector can only do things that you yourself could do. If the walls are not vertical, don't buy. If there are water stains on the basement walls and a musty smell, don't buy. If there are mud trails along the exposed wood, don't buy. If the HVAC is older than 10 years, you know it is on its last legs, so buy with that in mind.

My biggest regret too is buying my first house. Days later my wife at the time started cheating on me. After the divorce I didn't need the space of a house, nor the upkeep of the yard.

I work with home inspectors as a real estate agent. There are good ones and bad ones. The good ones do far far more than any homeowner could do on their own. But of course they are limited both by the fact that they may not have as much expertise in electrical as a seasoned electrician, ditto with a plumber - but they have far more expertise on those things than 99% of buyers as well. And like you said they can't look inside walls.

I've seen and had my share of deals die due to a bad home inspection. Not bad as in bad quality, but bad as in bad results. The inspector caught plenty enough to cause pause in the buyers intent.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
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Home inspectors are often incompetent or simply cannot do their job properly due to constraints. For example, to search for most problems, they would need to cut open the walls, ceiling, get into the attic, etc. They can't do that for obvious reasons (can't destroy the walls for a house they don't own) and cost reasons (actually getting into the attic may take so many additional hours that it makes it unprofitable to be a home inspector). You can buy as many home inspections as you want, but they won't do anything that you couldn't easily do by walking around with your eyes open.

In my case, I didn't know a ton about electrical, plumbing or building codes when I was buying a house, so honestly, things didn't really look out of place to me. However, now that I've had to deal with problems in my house, I've done things like read some of the NEC and International Builder's Code. (I don't attest to being an expert at either, but I've definitely learned a bit.) So, now that I've gained a bit of knowledge, there are glaring issues that should have been reported. A great example is how none of the bathrooms and the kitchen all lacked GFCI outlets. I had always seen them while growing up, but I had no idea that you had to have them for quite a few years. Also, if any work was done on the a line that entered a room that needs GFCI protection (bathroom, garage, laundry room, 6' of the sink in a kitchen), you are supposed to ensure the line is up to code.
 
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Imp

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Looks like it was a little under $100 for sides. Still I regret it. They were all huge, and couldn't take extra with us as we were not going home. $80 is a bit high for not telling us. Everything else was exceptional, we had two servers too.

Lydia must be feeling good...
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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Looks like it was a little under $100 for sides. Still I regret it. They were all huge, and couldn't take extra with us as we were not going home. $80 is a bit high for not telling us. Everything else was exceptional, we had two servers too.

I spent the same amount at Peter Luger's Steakhouse in NYC. Most expensive meal I ever bought. Kind of regret that one too because I can make a steak just as good as they can.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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I spent the same amount at Peter Luger's Steakhouse in NYC. Most expensive meal I ever bought. Kind of regret that one too because I can make a steak just as good as they can.

the technique employed by Peter Luger's is mindboggling. yet somehow it works for them...
 

Imp

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. I had always seen them while growing up, but I had no idea that you had to have them for quite a few years. Also, if any work was done on the a line that entered a room that needs GFCI protection (bathroom, garage, laundry room, 6' of the sink in a kitchen), you are supposed to ensure the line is up to code.

Hope you also read the parts about Arc-Fault circuit interrupters. Ampacity and wire gauge is the most fun though. Regular circuit-breaker trip mechanisms were the most surprising when I looked into them.
 

MrSquished

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the technique employed by Peter Luger's is mindboggling. yet somehow it works for them...

Peter Luger's gets mixed reviews. Go somewhere else. Due to my limited funds my only other experiences are at Del Friscos and one other joint, something Old Homestead Steakhouse or something along those lines.

Del Frisco's was the shit. Old Homestead was terrible. I think the same guy who owns that joint is on one of the 'Fix a Restaurant in 2 days Style show' actually. He can go fuck himself. The service was great, the steaks were mediocre at best.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
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Hope you also read the parts about Arc-Fault circuit interrupters. Ampacity and wire gauge is the most fun though. Regular circuit-breaker trip mechanisms were the most surprising when I looked into them.

Yup! Due to a lack of service panel space, I ended up going with some tandem breakers (my panel is a 200A 20/40 spot/circuit) to service the 2x Small Appliance Circuits, Fridge, Gas Stove + Microwave, Dishwasher and Disposal. (Each of those are separate circuits.) I would've preferred separate circuits with their own GFCI/AFCI protection, but it wasn't as easy. So, what I did was if a circuit has any outlets within 6' of the sink, it has a GFCI/AFCI outlet at the first point (all standard outlets wired in serial are protected). If a circuit is not within 6' of the sink, it has an AFCI outlet at the first point. I'm also having to fix a few lines in the family room and living room, and I'm also installing the same AFCI outlets at the first point in those rooms as well. I'm also moving the wiring to be in code. The wiring is mostly stapled to the bottom of the joists, which is against NEC 2014 as it requires them to be on a running board or through holes drilled in the joists.
 

dullard

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The wiring is mostly stapled to the bottom of the joists, which is against NEC 2014 as it requires them to be on a running board or through holes drilled in the joists.
You just gave two examples that can be easily seen by you in your next purchase. If you grew up with GFCI outlets near all water, but your potential new house doesn't have them, that should raise a flag. If you are to finish the room and there is wire running under the joists so that you can't nail up drywall, that should raise a flag. These are the types of "tests" that home inspectors do. You can do them just as easily by looking at everything. You might not know if a wire behind the wall was done up to code, so you will miss some issues, but neither can a home inspector (so the inspector will miss many issues as well).

Get a home inspector if you want. But, it is better to actually be educated about what you are buying before spending hundreds of thousands of dollars for it. You don't need to be an electrician to notice that the outlets aren't what you expect (no GFCI, no ground plugs, etc.) Because the inspector isn't an electrician expert either, you need to know that you can't rely on the inspection.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
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If you grew up with GFCI outlets near all water, but your potential new house doesn't have them, that should raise a flag.

Honestly, it was just something that I never really even thought about. I think part of it is just my own personality as the buyer. It tends to all be very overwhelming, and I just can't think as well and spot those sort of things. I'm also just far too passive. To be honest, the fact that I could barely look at the garage because it was such a mess should've kept me away. They lived in it at the time, which is why there was still stuff around, and that also brings up another thing... if someone is living in the home while selling it, demand it be professionally cleaned in your contract. Unless it's in the contract, they don't have to do it... and that includes cleaning things up well. I actually found hair in one of the showers.

If you are to finish the room and there is wire running under the joists so that you can't nail up drywall, that should raise a flag.

Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding, but the stapled wiring was in the crawlspace. If I remember correctly, the mandate for crawlspace wiring management only went in with NEC 2014. But speaking of the crawlspace, the one thing that I should've been picky about was the state of the vapor barrier. I mean... something that is all tattered and torn doesn't exactly serve as a good barrier.

You might not know if a wire behind the wall was done up to code, so you will miss some issues, but neither can a home inspector (so the inspector will miss many issues as well).

Yeah, I'm not displeased about anything that wasn't visible to the naked eye. I understand that there usually aren't many ways to see things in the wall that aren't destructive in nature.

I mean... the good thing about this is that I've learned a lot of things, and if a friend goes to buy a home, I can possibly take a peek to look for some of these same things that bit me. One example of that is my garage door. While my opener would open the door, I had no idea that the spring was actually far too loose... until the garage door refused to open. I never knew about the "drop test" with garage doors (detach it from the opener, raise it halfway and let it go... it should stay in place). Chances are that the door failed when I bought the house, and I ended up having to pay to get it fixed.
 

poofyhairguy

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Easily my worst purchase was my Asus Transformer Prime tablet. It never worked right, due to a design flaw of an all (and I mean all) aluminum back. GPS was completely screwed, so bad I got an external GPS (really) and a $17 settlement check for it. Real problem though was wifi don't work worth a damn either, and the storage used inside was crazy slow so the tablet usability was crap. Funny thing is, the iPad 2 I bought for my wife around that same time was one of my best purchases.

The worst gift I ever got was a 4K Dell Monitor two Christmases ago. I was super pumped about it on Christmas, only to get home and learn the damn thing could only do 30hz (yes really) over DP at 4k. So it's useless as a monitor. I tried to hang it in my kitchen just to be a badass infotainment monitor but it is pickier about HDMI handshakes than any display I have ever seen so unless I left it on 24/7 it was useless (and even then it would screw up sometimes). Now I have a 1080p tv in my kitchen, a 1200p monitor on my desk, and that 4K piece of trash is in my closest. I should dump it on a fool on Craigslist but I would feel guilty about it.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Easily my worst purchase was my Asus Transformer Prime tablet. It never worked right, due to a design flaw of an all (and I mean all) aluminum back. GPS was completely screwed, so bad I got an external GPS (really) and a $17 settlement check for it. Real problem though was wifi don't work worth a damn either, and the storage used inside was crazy slow so the tablet usability was crap. Funny thing is, the iPad 2 I bought for my wife around that same time was one of my best purchases.

Glad I didn't pull the trigger on that one...
 

OverVolt

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$3000 Pentium 4 based PC.

Its got 3Ghz yo.

Currently using a $300 laptop with an i3 that uses 40 watts and is probably like 4x faster or something. Its odd... now that I'm old I actually spend more on accessories than the actual device.
 

Ackmed

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It was at Ruth's Chris, and yes it was overall worth it. Even if we didn't know about the sides. It was also the experience. When we made the reservations we told them it was for her 18th birthday. We wanted to treat her out, they treated her very nice. The table had extras on it, etc. We got dressed up some and had a nice evening. I don't regret spending the money so much, just the damn sides.
 
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ponyo

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It was at Ruth's Chris, and yes it was overall worth it. Even if we didn't know about the sides. It was also the experience. When we made the reservations we told them it was for her 18th birthday. We wanted to treat her out, they treated her very nice. The table had extras on it, etc. We got dressed up some and had a nice evening. I don't regret spending the money so much, just the damn sides.

Never pay full price for Ruth's Chris. At Costco, you can buy Ruth's Chris $100 giftcard for $80. It's available all the time. Most of the fancier steakhouses, the sides are shared. If it wasn't on the menu, your server should've noticed and told you when you ordered so many sides. That's poor service on the part of your waiter and I would've took it out of the tip.
 
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