What Star Trek minor character do you wish the show had covered more?

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BudAshes

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Yet he was dancing around at the wedding in the last movie...

Those movies are so bad with the TNG cast. It's funny because I think they did a decent job on the movies with the original Star Trek cast, so I'm not sure why things went so downhill with the TNG cast. I think maybe part of the problem was the the show was written so well they just didn't have the additional content for the movies.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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Those movies are so bad with the TNG cast. It's funny because I think they did a decent job on the movies with the original Star Trek cast, so I'm not sure why things went so downhill with the TNG cast. I think maybe part of the problem was the the show was written so well they just didn't have the additional content for the movies.

The TOS movies had it a bit easier as they were reinvented for the big screen. The first movie was in the same boat as the TNG 1st movie trying to make a TV episode on the big screen, and it didn't work. The 2nd TOS movie changed the entire look and feel of the world the characters live in, making the Federation more of a formal Naval organization, and there was a concrete villain included. This brought a fresh perspective and felt like discovering Star Trek all over again.

The TNG movies never really broke out of the "Big Screen TV Show" mode. They didn't really do anything new, they focused on too many characters at once, and the writing wasn't really "movie quality" (except maybe for First Contact). TNG movies also had the problem of having 2 TV shows running at the time they were in theaters, causing franchise fatigue.

I have high hopes for Picard...getting back to TNG roots with minimalist character stories is what works best with this show.
 
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BudAshes

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Jul 20, 2003
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The TOS movies had it a bit easier as they were reinvented for the big screen. The first movie was in the same boat as the TNG 1st movie trying to make a TV episode on the big screen, and it didn't work. The 2nd TOS movie changed the entire look and feel of the world the characters live in, making the Federation more of a formal Naval organization, and there was a concrete villain included. This brought a fresh perspective and felt like discovering Star Trek all over again.

The TNG movies never really broke out of the "Big Screen TV Show" mode. They didn't really do anything new, they focused on too many characters at once, and the writing wasn't really "movie quality" (except maybe for First Contact). TNG movies also had the problem of having 2 TV shows running at the time they were in theaters, causing franchise fatigue.

I have high hopes for Picard...getting back to TNG roots with minimalist character stories is what works best with this show.

My problem is the trailer focuses on "The One" who can save the galaxy. Pretty much sounds like a fantasy story line, which is where you lose me with a Star Trek show.
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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I know they explored the EMH doctor character more than I would have initially asked for and he wasn't exactly "minor" in the end... but I still want more.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Tough question. Shows like DS9 had a great supporting cast and a lot of the additional characters got plenty of time. TOS and TNG had a really strong central cast and the periphery characters were throwaway enough to not really elicit much interest.

Maybe some more of that Andorian commander from Enterprise, played by Jeffery Coombs. That guy stolen the show every time he was on. Couldn't just had a whole show with him at the core.
 

Sonikku

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Jun 23, 2005
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Garak.

Can be from any of the seasons.

I would have liked to know more about Guinan on The Next Generation. Seems like a missed opportunity for a rich backstory about her species.
WTF was up with her raising her hands to Q like she was going to hit him with Force Lightning? Does she have "powers" or something? They never did delve into that.

Tough question. Shows like DS9 had a great supporting cast and a lot of the additional characters got plenty of time. TOS and TNG had a really strong central cast and the periphery characters were throwaway enough to not really elicit much interest.

Maybe some more of that Andorian commander from Enterprise, played by Jeffery Coombs. That guy stolen the show every time he was on. Couldn't just had a whole show with him at the core.
Shran I think it was? Yeah he was cool. I liked how he developed a grudging respect for Archer.
 

Fritzo

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Garak.


WTF was up with her raising her hands to Q like she was going to hit him with Force Lightning? Does she have "powers" or something? They never did delve into that.

It was implied that Guinan's species has defenses against the Q...he acted like a vampire to a cross when they met.


Anyway...the elephant in the room: THEY NEVER REVISITED THOSE SPACE PARASITES. I was watching TNG on a Sunday morning with a bowl of Count Chocula when I saw this!

 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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It was implied that Guinan's species has defenses against the Q...he acted like a vampire to a cross when they met.


Anyway...the elephant in the room: THEY NEVER REVISITED THOSE SPACE PARASITES. I was watching TNG on a Sunday morning with a bowl of Count Chocula when I saw this!

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I think they were originally going to be the borg, but they changed them to cybernetic hybrids due to cost.
 

zinfamous

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Those movies are so bad with the TNG cast. It's funny because I think they did a decent job on the movies with the original Star Trek cast, so I'm not sure why things went so downhill with the TNG cast. I think maybe part of the problem was the the show was written so well they just didn't have the additional content for the movies.

Johnathan Frakes.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Whatever happened to those shimmering light aliens that used to possess people on original Star Trek? Once they got squeezed out in the hyperbolic chamber we lost track of them.

Ignore that using a hyperbolic chamber to squeeze out beings of light is retarded from a bunch different angles.
 

zinfamous

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That would make sense if he was the one that directed those movies.

Pretty sure he wrote all the ones after First Contact and directed at least 2? of them. ..the writing part especially, I seem to recall he had sole credit. To me, that was just an awkward, terrible character. I'm OK with the guy, but the casting was just all wrong for what was written, primarily by Frakes, as some sort of debonair, Space Burt Reynolds. It was just awful, and made more awful because that's how he saw himself in that role, lol.

I think he directed a bunch of the later TNG episodes, too, which isn't uncommon when shows go that long, with their recurring principles starting to get producing credits and episodes to direct.
 

BudAshes

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Pretty sure he wrote all the ones after First Contact and directed at least 2? of them. ..the writing part especially, I seem to recall he had sole credit. To me, that was just an awkward, terrible character. I'm OK with the guy, but the casting was just all wrong for what was written, primarily by Frakes, as some sort of debonair, Space Burt Reynolds. It was just awful, and made more awful because that's how he saw himself in that role, lol.

I think he directed a bunch of the later TNG episodes, too, which isn't uncommon when shows go that long, with their recurring principles starting to get producing credits and episodes to direct.



Frakes being the milk in this scenario.
 

Fritzo

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Frakes being the milk in this scenario.

Frakes directed First Contact and Insurrection and his directorial style in both movies was actually pretty skilled (despite Insurrection's story being a snooze-fest). Rick Berman (the person responsible for making Star Trek into a shoot em up dystopia) was the main writer on all of the movies except for Nemesis. Berman is a terrible movie writer, and purposely went against Roddenberry's wishes after he died to add more violence and Federation "conspiracy" into the shows.

Frakes was replaced by Stuart Baird in Nemesis (who had very little movie directing experience at that point), and the cast has publicly said "he had no idea what he was doing." Baird when on to direct the Casino Royal and Skyfall Bond films, but has had a shaky reputation since.
 
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