What to do about eradicating the Hamas tunnels?

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cabri

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Israel has never admitted to the existence of a nuclear arsenal. Their view is that since their neighbors have a nuclear arsenal, they will detonate/short launch and spread the pain/suffering if they ever get hit themselves by one of their enemies.

To think (or in the case of some mental giants in this thread; expect) that Israel would launch a nuke into Gaza is just beyond fucking stupid.

Israel isn't treating nukes like the rest of the world is - they are treating them as a last strike to lash out at anyone who does decide to nuke them. So, please get over the fantasy of wiping out Arabs/Muslims with a nuke.

I agree with the above:
Also, any attempt to use a nuke on the Palestinians will also contaminate Israel itself.

As stated above, the nuke is a MAD type threat to be held against a country that attempts to use them.

the only issue with nukes is that should militants obtain one; who would be held responsible.
Israel would not allow one to be used as blackmail. Would the world accept such a threat?
 
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Caravaggio

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Here's an idea.
Here's an idea.
If you are a de-corticated frog who knows nothing about history but likes images of men pumping iron, buy a gay stroke mag.
You utter wanker.
Buy a book you dumb ass. If you think you are an expert on the Middle East because you watched something on Fox; go Fox yourself.
 

Caravaggio

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Israel has never admitted to the existence of a nuclear arsenal.
You are right in all particulars. Nor has Japan (but it has got 'em).

Israel was allowed nukes as a 'thank you' for clever Jews giving the USA the H-bomb. Don't forget, the US gave the Shah of Iran plutonium in 1974. Whoops!

The US had to pretend for 25+ years that they had "no idea Israel had nukes" despite the US knowing of the Damona facility.

But MAD is MAD, and even Israel isn't that mad. I have my fears about ISIS, though....
 

TechBoyJK

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Here's an idea.
If you are a de-corticated frog who knows nothing about history but likes images of men pumping iron, buy a gay stroke mag.
You utter wanker.
Buy a book you dumb ass. If you think you are an expert on the Middle East because you watched something on Fox; go Fox yourself.

quoted for posterity
 

werepossum

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quoted for posterity
lol No doubt.

Your idea was well stated, on topic, sensible, and even had a picture for the Caravaggia of the world. Evidently the problem was that the picture only showed one party and not the action, leading to confusion which led to frustration which led to lashing out like a little bitch. However, Earl trumped it.

BTW, I don't know n0cmonkey but after reading your quote he's my new favorite person. (Well, my new favorite person without tits anyway; I am awfully fond of my wife.)
 

TechBoyJK

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lol No doubt.

Your idea was well stated, on topic, sensible, and even had a picture for the Caravaggia of the world. Evidently the problem was that the picture only showed one party and not the action, leading to confusion which led to frustration which led to lashing out like a little bitch. However, Earl trumped it.

BTW, I don't know n0cmonkey but after reading your quote he's my new favorite person. (Well, my new favorite person without tits anyway; I am awfully fond of my wife.)

I don't know if n0cmonkey is still active, but it's been my sig for nearly 10 years now I think. Haven't read anything on here that's motivated me to change it since.
 

Nebor

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You are right in all particulars. Nor has Japan (but it has got 'em).

Israel was allowed nukes as a 'thank you' for clever Jews giving the USA the H-bomb. Don't forget, the US gave the Shah of Iran plutonium in 1974. Whoops!

The US had to pretend for 25+ years that they had "no idea Israel had nukes" despite the US knowing of the Damona facility.

But MAD is MAD, and even Israel isn't that mad. I have my fears about ISIS, though....

I seriously doubt that Japan has nuclear weapons, though it's widely believe that they could create them in short order if they so desired.

Israel wasn't "allowed" nukes. It secretly developed them in cooperation with South Africa. Then South Africa decided they didn't even want the trappings of a first world nation and dismantled theirs.
 

Whiskey16

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Careful, your supremacist bigotry is coming through
.... rather than assimilate into the existing culture.
"Existing? " Well under a century ago with many survivors still living in the refugee areas of Gaza, just which areas of the State of Isreal would they fail in assimilating to? What become of their homes, farms, and community names?

No cabri, your revisionism of history will not fly here by fabricating the Jewish purity of the Israeli state, thereby erasing the facts of who inhabited it previously and that direct link to the Gaza ghetto.

Or, possibly in the misinformation and lying cesspool that the P&N is, your BS can remain afloat. If you stand by your positions, then display some integrity and take your arguments to the discussion club to see how they can truly stand.
 

cabri

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Careful, your supremacist bigotry is coming through"Existing? " Well under a century ago with many survivors still living in the refugee areas of Gaza, just which areas of the State of Isreal would they fail in assimilating to? What become of their homes, farms, and community names?

No cabri, your revisionism of history will not fly here by fabricating the Jewish purity of the Israeli state, thereby erasing the facts of who inhabited it previously and that direct link to the Gaza ghetto.

Or, possibly in the misinformation and lying cesspool that the P&N is, your BS can remain afloat. If you stand by your positions, then display some integrity and take your arguments to the discussion club to see how they can truly stand.

IF you take my statements out of context; anything can be twisted.

The area of Palestine was inhabited by both Jews and Arabs and most lived side by side without problems until the British instituted the Mandate and the UN crated a split of the area.
 

DominionSeraph

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Gaza is an outdoor prison.

I know how you feel, bro. Look what I have to put up with if I want to kill Israelis!



They sit behind two oceans and an entry fee and won't stop oppressing me with it! It really sucks sitting here on my own land with my democratically elected government because it's just an outdoor prison if there's anything in the way of me killing Israelis!

I'm just so unhappy. Why can't life be easy?



This is why we call the Palestinians, "children."
 
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Pr0d1gy

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Yep, cuz every enlightened lib, like yourself and Zane, knows that if we help annihilate the evil Zionist state all those militant Islamists over there will fall in love with us and be our pals.

Do you know the history of Palestine pre-1960? You statement tells me the answer is a resounding no.
 

Dari

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I seriously doubt that Japan has nuclear weapons, though it's widely believe that they could create them in short order if they so desired.

Israel wasn't "allowed" nukes. It secretly developed them in cooperation with South Africa. Then South Africa decided they didn't even want the trappings of a first world nation and dismantled theirs.

Nuclear technology was given to Israel from France, not South Africa.
 

Caravaggio

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This Is a real problem!
Au contraire, me old mate.

You are the problem. You are a self-confessed IDF shill.
You have admitted that you are a part-time American, most-time IDF loyalist with a blinkered and partial view of history like that strangely silent Harabec. (Are you working as a team? Dumb and dumber?)

Your pals are the original "terrorists", remember the Deir Yassin massacre and the King David Hotel bombing? Letter bombs in the UK post?.

And you have the chutzpah to talk about "Palestinian terrorism". Get real. Your Irgun and Hagganah pals were the meanest terrorists around in 1947-1948.

Here is a Jewish source of information for those not already suckered into your grim propaganda:
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“Why should the Arabs make peace?If I was an Arab leader I would never make peace with Israel.That is natural: we have taken their country.”
David Ben Gurion (Israel’s first Prime Minister, 1956)
 

cabri

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Au contraire, me old mate.

You are the problem. You are a self-confessed IDF shill.
You have admitted that you are a part-time American, most-time IDF loyalist with a blinkered and partial view of history like that strangely silent Harabec. (Are you working as a team? Dumb and dumber?)

Your pals are the original "terrorists", remember the Deir Yassin massacre and the King David Hotel bombing? Letter bombs in the UK post?.

And you have the chutzpah to talk about "Palestinian terrorism". Get real. Your Irgun and Hagganah pals were the meanest terrorists around in 1947-1948.

Here is a Jewish source of information for those not already suckered into your grim propaganda:
How far back in time do you wish to go.

Tit for tat has existed - back in '47-48, the British were aiding the Arabs against the Jews. They were supposed to be neutral.

Both sides have grudges against each other.

The UN attempted to draw a line in the sand for a clean start.
 

Whiskey16

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Trolling, Nebor?

"Why does everyone hate the Jews?"

You are already on the forum record advocating the deaths of Palestinian children and civilians, so your biased immorality is firmly damned, yet do you honestly believe contemporary issues of Israeli critiques and Palestinian grievances are simply that of anti-Semitism -- Israel ("Jews" as you define) has no fault?
 

Nebor

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Trolling, Nebor?

"Why does everyone hate the Jews?"

You are already on the forum record advocating the deaths of Palestinian children and civilians, so your biased immorality is firmly damned, yet do you honestly believe contemporary issues of Israeli critiques and Palestinian grievances are simply that of anti-Semitism -- Israel ("Jews" as you define) has no fault?

I don't believe the Palestinians. They have zero credibility after having be repeatedly caught manipulating the media for international sympathy. I also don't believe they have the right to their own state, a fact proven by their insistence on electing terrorists as their government.
 
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