I have two machines. Both Windows 7 Pro 64. I want the game rig to have Windows 10 for DX12 features. I am not ready to install Windows 10 on my daily machine.
WHAT UPDATE DO WE NOT WANT???
WHAT UPDATE DO WE NOT WANT???
KB3035583 is the update not to download.or if you have it remove it
Yeah, early adoption within a couple of days of launch is always smart.
Yeah, early adoption within a couple of days of launch is always smart.
Sure, "Smart" now with the benefit of hindsight. Not so much smart, as lucky, and that was exactly the kind of worthless anecdote I was referring in my last post. The best policy as always to wait a bit.
As for the security and features, Windows 7 doesn't have any glaring vulnerabilities to start with, and while 10 brings with it some new features, it removes some significant ones as well. For many people, there are good reasons not to switch, even if one ignores the inherent risks of early adoption. It depends entirely on the user, and for me choosing between 7 and 10 certainly feels less clear-cut than choosing between XP and 7.
Forced updates still represent a huge, glaring regression in my eyes, the only real "deal breaker", and now that I've had a fair bit of time to mess around with the final OS and the show/hide tool, I can see that they're going to be every bit as problematic for me in practice, as they were in theory.
I can also see from the perspective of someone who has an HTPC or something and used Media Centre (as I once did with an HDHomerun) why they might not want to switch. They could go to the trouble of moving to windows 10 and finding some new software to replace MC, or they could just stay put with the software they're already perfectly happy with for another 4+ years.
Just because your set of priorities make Windows 10 a no-brainer for you, doesn't mean it'll be the same for everyone else. That's the point I would put to escrow and everyone else who claims there is "no reason not to" take up Windows 10.
Some people have to moan about something,did not take long has I stated awhile back before 10 was released,don't like it go Linux...I never understand some people getting worked up on really minor issues like this,same goes for Aero and dozen things I could name.Forced updates still represent a huge, glaring regression in my eyes, the only real "deal breaker", and now that I've had a fair bit of time to mess around with the final OS and the show/hide tool, I can see that they're going to be every bit as problematic for me in practice, as they were in theory.
Risks are so minimal,drivers are out for main hardware and it can use Win8/8.1 in a few cases,stability well not had a single crash yet,remember Win10 has been in testing phase for quite awhile now,not last week or last month but quite a long time.
I would also say risks is virtually zero if you have everything backed up and nowadays there is no reason not too.
Again Win7 is far from perfect and on its way to EOL,don't kid yourself its better on security on 8 or 10 because that point has already be proved by Microsoft that 7 is not as secure,sure you can wait up to a year to upgrade to Win10 but why wait when it's very stable.
You have have more risks on the net surfing then upgrading to Windows 10.
I've just come out of three hours gaming session on 10 for a break, 10 has been awesome.
Some people have to moan about something,did not take long has I stated awhile back before 10 was released,don't like it go Linux...I never understand some people getting worked up on really minor issues like this,same goes for Aero and dozen things I could name.
My install of Win 7 was relatively new, <4 months old, so my upgrade to 10 on my gaming rig (the one I'm on now) went relatively smoothly. I only had some minor program conflicts that were fixed by reinstalling them, but I can see where older installs could have major problems. Likely best to start from scratch.
Yeah if you have your Source / Origin drive on a second hard drive for instance there is no fear of having to roll back if any of your games have some incompatibilities with Windows 10.
The benchmarks I've seen also show that Windows 7 / 8 / 8.1 have a slight performance advantage when compared to these brand new Windows 10 Direct X 12 drivers from Intel, AMD and NVIDIA.
Early adoption is never smart, and it's not like you don't have an entire year to take advantage of the free upgrade. Of course you'll probably go on to recite your cute little personal anecdote of how you just switched to Windows 10 and it all went fine, but that doesn't change the fact that your chances of running into issues are greatly elevated if you rush into a piece of software that's only just been properly released. "New release" issues don't always manifest themselves on the very first day, and that applies to hardware and software equally. I'll tell you what there's no reason not to do, and that's wait a few months for the OS to mature so that any remaining bugs can be ironed out. That would be the intelligent thing to do.
"You'll be forced onto 10 eventually" is no reason to switch now either, if you really like Windows 7. "Eventually" being the operative word here, extended support for Windows 7 ends more than four years from now. That's a very long time, and if you don't particularly like Windows 10, why would you rush? because someone on the internet told you Windows 7 was "creaky"?
Windows 10, dimwit. You know, that thing that has been the topic of this entire thread?
And while irrelevant, I can't help but marvel at the stupidity of the rest of your post:
What kind of world do you live in where your lack of interest in soundcards means that everyone should dismiss them as unimportant, and where it's the user's "fault" that they didn't have a crystal ball to foresee day 1 Windows 10 support when they purchased their windows 7-8 era hardware. Really, sit back and consider what you just wrote. How am I supposed to take anything else you've written seriously?
Windows 10, dimwit. You know, that thing that has been the topic of this entire thread?
And while irrelevant, I can't help but marvel at the stupidity of the rest of your post:
What kind of world do you live in where your lack of interest in soundcards means that everyone should dismiss them as unimportant, and where it's the user's "fault" that they didn't have a crystal ball to foresee day 1 Windows 10 support when they purchased their windows 7-8 era hardware. Really, sit back and consider what you just wrote. How am I supposed to take anything else you've written seriously?
Last time I checked these are forums for sharing info ,feedback,debates etc or as this changed?And you're sharing this why?
I suggest you remain polite and don't start any personal attacks on ANY members here unless you want a nice long vacation by the mods here,no need to be rude or offensive,manners are free last time I checked.Third party software is another thing that I did not bring up. However, that is yet another reason not to rush into a new OS. It can sometimes take a while for third parties to catch up, which you seem to be saying in that last rambling paragraph. Is that Microsoft's fault? No. Did I ever say it was Microsoft's fault? No. Does any of that detract in any way from my argument? No.