You do remember this dont you??
Your GTX780Ti
And my puny HD7950
Mantle is not only about high fps
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And a GTX970 is faster in Thief 4 and BF 4 than a 290. ^_^
it is 30% faster not just fast even if it use mantle.
Sorry but we are talking about thief not Bf4.Next time plz post right screenshot.You do remember this dont you??
Your GTX780Ti
And my puny HD7950
Mantle is not only about high fps
You do remember this dont you??
Your GTX780Ti
And my puny HD7950
Mantle is not only about high fps
Sorry but we are talking about thief not Bf4.Next time plz post right screenshot.
And a GTX970 is faster in Thief 4 and BF 4 than a 290. ^_^
Btw siege of shanghai is the most demanding map and next time try harder.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...orce_gtx_980_video_card_review/7#.VCPoshbQqNE
Yes i am talking about FPS.I believe i can still read English
You realize im not talking about fps, do you ??
U are taking the discussion to the whole new level.We are talking GTX 970 and still it is faster even R9 290 is on mantle.Smoothness is so 2012. Didn't you get the latest memo? It's FPS and perf/W.
Smoother and slower is worth a price premium if the right team has that metric. The wrong team though, and you can no longer compete. Never mind asking any kind of a reasonable return for the performance your cards do have. It's like DP performance. When Tahiti annihilated GK104, nobody needed it. It's THE reason a Titan is worth one thousand dollars today.
U are taking the discussion to the whole new level.We are talking GTX 970 and still it is faster even R9 290 is on mantle.
If u want to talk about Mantle and its specs than i would suggest u make another topic for it.
U are taking the discussion to the whole new level.We are talking GTX 970 and still it is faster even R9 290 is on mantle.
If u want to talk about Mantle and its specs than i would suggest u make another topic for it.
If it was a flamebait than this topic would have already been closed so i suggest u stick to topic plz.its very clear that your intention in starting this thread was for it to act as a flamebait. You have achieved that goal with ease :whiste:. You have no interest in AMD or their response to Nvidia's products. You are here to basically create trouble. :biggrin:
yup that is a long way to go may be 2015 Q2 as reliable sources are saying. I would say R9 290 drop to around $279 with a good game bundle just for Xmas sales.Naw, this tread is about AMD's next move in reponse to Nvidia's Maxwell. Please try to stay on topic.
If AMD is going to wait for 20nm, it might suggest that their next GPU might not be as efficient as Nvidia's Maxwell from an arch standpoint. It might need the smaller node to compensation the power draw. If the 390x is on 28nm, I'm not too confident it will have a lower TDP. Thus, the necessity of a liquid cooler. We shall see.
No, I claim BF4 Mantle is good.
And I claim that in turn based game, IQ is more important to me than FPS.
As to huge amount of draw-calls in turn based Civ(another terrible Mantle candidate),
first thats ridiculous programming at best, intentional crippling move at worst.
Speaking of intentionally making huge number of draw calls just for the fun of it - DX11 Nvidia does fine in Star Swarm, let alone modern DX12
It's not like Civ's graphics just freeze in between turns...
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u maybe misunderstood my postAssassin's Creed Unity Nov 11th - AC IV is very demanding at 1600P and this could be even more demanding
Project CARS - November 18 - probably a must have title for racing fans
Don't forget the the next COD given how unoptimized last COD game that with crap graphics brought performance to below 60 fps on a 770 and Titan couldn't even hit 50 fps at 1600p. :whiste:
Well we knew your posts are full of NV praise and AMD bashing but now you are just making stuff up.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_970_and_980_reference_review,12.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_970_and_980_reference_review,15.html
A 980 is 19% faster than 290X in BF4 so how can a 970 be possibly 30% faster than a 290 in BF4?
You know what I didn't hear you from though is how 290X in CF is 33-40% faster than 780TI SLI at 4K in Watch Dogs, but instead you go about fabricating Thief and BF4 advantages of 970 over 290.
You know what else I didn't hear from you is how much $ you will lose on resale of your 780TI Tri-SLI? 780Ti now sells for $430. So while someone enjoyed R9 290 performance at $400 for 1 year ($350-360 for the last 5 months) and now 970 beats that card by 8-10% for $70 less, at least someone with 2-3x R9 290s doesn't feel like they flushed $1000+ into the toilet after 970 came out. Most of this is due to competition from AMD and AMD-powered PS4/XB1 consoles. Yet, you just can't stop talking about how awesome 970 is vs. 1-year old 290 but being bent over by NV for a year is swept under the rug....because NV iz ze best.
And I bet if R9 390X beats 980 in 5 months, you'll keep claiming that 390X is a GM200/210 competitor while R9 290X competes with the 980, right?
And side-note, during the 3-4 following R9 290/290X launch, those cards actually paid for themselves through scrypt/coin mining. Thus, I doubt that many 1 year old R9 290/290X owners are too upset right now, unlike 780Ti / Titan / Titan Black owners.
The real question is what kind of power it will use, since I can't imagine AMD pulling ahead in that regard so quickly.
It's not like Civ's graphics just freeze in between turns...
And it's not like there's zero animation during a turn.
After the "OMFG NV 970 on 400mm2 is going to KiLZ the year old 400mm2 290 - AMD is doomed, what can they possible do"
And the answer was "Perhaps lower prices??"
Lower prices !!! - such a shocking answer to NVs "appriciative" enthusiast.
As a consequence some resorted to playing BF4 in single player mode. (please not the big maps with many players)
Uhhhhhhh... its that bad
I know some people here are quick to who claim that AMD needs a 350-400W liquid cool card but can't comprehend that AMD can strategically delay their next flagship to 1H 2015 because they might just get it out on 20nm node. Alternatively, waiting another 6 months could allow AMD to produce a 500mm2+ die due to even lower 28nm wafer prices. These choices are better than rushing a 10% higher clocked 290X and getting burned in reviews. Also, it gives AMD another 6 months to work on PowerTune/internal ASIC efficiency as from Tom's Hardware analysis it seems NV figured out that Maxwell is hardly more efficient than Kelper at max load which suggests it's NV's effective power tune technology and ability to turn off non-gaming functioning units in Maxwell which brought the real breakthrough in performance/watt in games. AMD needs to visit this aspect and if they need 5-6 months to get it correctly, then hopefully it's not just 6 months wasted.
Please don't tell me you are falling for this too.
The gigabyte cards are non-reference models which are running the stress test at 1250 mhz+. They have 2 8 pin connectors and are rated for 300W. Reference 980 will throttle on GPGPU tests but even throttled performance is higher than the 770/780Ti.
It is not true, to get the same max throughput as the 780ti it will consume about the same power amount, there s no efficency gains at full throughput.
Here is compute @ stock.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review/20
Does quite nicely. The 980 is about 25-50% faster then the 780Ti.
ROFL...
Luxmark for the score and a capped Furmark for the power comsumption.?.
That is, dividing Luxmark score by (capped) Furmark power drain, i thought that i knew of all possible manipulations but looks like i underestimated Nvidia, or rather their supporters s, creativity on this matter.