What will you do IF Gore WINS?

[bozack]

if Gore Wins this election I will probabily never bother to vote again.

I mean he will be paving the way for people to sue, cry, and whine until they get what they want-something I want nothing to do with.

The system is corrupt as it is, no need to make it any worse.

 

[chess9]

The only meaningful difference between the U.S. Supremes and the Florida Supremes is the U.S. Supremes have the LAST opinion. No Florida Supreme Court justice has been kicked out of office. That is not a real consideration.

Anyway, just because the U.S. Supremes are going to listen to arguments doesn't mean they are going to rule in Bush's favor. Most legal scholars think they will NOT rule in Bush's favor. Of course, most legal scholars thought they'd have sense enough to stay out of this fight. I'm not in the business of predicting what people will do, but I'd say unless they can make a very strong case to come down against the Florida Supreme Court, they are more like to support the Florida Supremes. Several law professors have opined that the U.S. Supremes may be taking this opportunity, in part, to quiet the public condemnation of their brother judges.

 

[Format C:]

<< No Florida Supreme Court justice has been kicked out of office >>

.....YET

 

[Double Trouble]

No supremes have been &quot;kicked out&quot; of office, but they certainly have been voted out of office. I'm not familiar enough with Florida procedures, but where I live (Ohio), the supreme court justices are elected every few years.... which means the justices sometimes have to do things they know are not legally correct, but will keep them elected. The US supremes on the other hand, don't have this concern.. they can do whatever they truly feel is correct.

I don't know for sure that they will smack the FL surpremes for their political behaviour, but I suspect that the reason they even decided to hear the case is because they realize an election should not be given to one guy or another based on the polical whims of 7 justices, but rather should be the outcome of the vote based on the laws on the books (not the ones created by those justices). We all know how accurate the 'scholars' are when it comes to this stuff...they were convinced the surpremes wouldn't even hear this case.

 

[irie]

I'll quit my job and let all the new government programs support me.
lol

 

[Capn]

Chess9, can you please do me the favor of showing me exactly where I stated something that was not true? Fact is you can not. So I suggest you change your own guidelines for stating who has a clue, and who doesn't.

Here's a story about it for you if you want to check my original statement.
link

&quot;you know that is funny, cause it's not true. Absentee ballot requests came in that were filled in over a ten day period because of the missing voter ID number. &quot;

from the article
&quot;Jacobs alleged that the county election supervisor, a Republican, broke the law by allowing Republican party volunteers to fill in missing data on about 4,700 absentee ballot requests that might otherwise would have been rejected as incomplete.&quot;

Yes obviously this reporter doesn't have a clue as well.

 

[chess9]

Capn:

Your cryptic post appears to say it is not true the ballots were tampered with, but then you go on to say they were tampered with over a 10 day period. You sounded confused. I'm glad you now understand.

But the bigger point, which you are studiously avoiding, is the Republicans were stealing votes. Tampering with votes is a Federal and State crime. The woman may be playing golf in Allenwood in a few months.

Anyway, I don't hear you Republicans complaining about her behavior, which she hasn't denied.

So who has the moral high ground here? Anyone?

 

[WetWilly]

Taken together, I still think even losing 10% of the military over the election is an exaggeration.

Over the election only, no. The election being the straw that breaks the camel's back, yes. The economy is only part of the equation, and that's particularly relevant to recruiting. Reenlisting involves other factors that would be generally classified as job satisfaction. People that are very contented with their jobs don't leave just for money. The thing about the military is that dissatisfaction is not an openly discussed topic, since there's a fine line between voicing dissatisfaction and insubordination. There's a lot more erosion in there than is publicly perceived.

Italy is nice. Do you speak Italian?

No, but I know quite a bit of Latin. That's rather convenient since it makes translating a lot of romance languages rather easy.

 

[cxim]

There was no tampering with votes or ballots... no votes were stolen...

Whats to complain about ? perhaps she made an error of judgement...

By the way... this practice was legal until a couple of yrs ago..

it was changed after the dead people voted in Miami a couple of yrs ago.

seminole story

NOTE: The judge herself did exactly the same thing. Well well, humm !

 

[Zucchini]

the fact is that bush has 5000 illegal votes that should be tossed aside. You know very well what that means.

 

[apoppin]

Wet Willy, you did say &quot;If Gore wins at least half of the military will quit.&quot;

My opinion was that was a really huge exaggeration. Again, I still believe 10% is a pretty large number to quit over an election. There is a big difference between quitting and not reenlisting.

We may never know.

Anyway, knowing Latin is a big advantage to learning any of the Romance languages including Italian. And of course, you could always teach English.

 

[chess9]

CXIM:

If this is no big deal, then why was Goard going to disqualify those votes? Why did she only notify her Republican buddies and not the Dems? I submit that she knew it was illegal, and had been so for two years.

If she doesn't know the election laws, she shouldn't hold that position.

Why are you trying to square the circle?

 

[BoberFett]

Moonie and Isla

Why do enviromentalists think that their viewpoint is the only valid one, and that the rest of us are just lost or confused somehow? That seems rather egomaniacal and close-minded.

Edit: Sorry, I'm a bit late to the conversation with this question.

 

[Zucchini]

enviromentalists? wtf?

Anyways, repubs should stop talking about gore stealing the election. Bush already stole the election with 5000 illegal ballots. Fair isn't it. Honor and dignity.. i think not.

 

[Optimus]

If Gore wins, I WILL spend the next 4 years living in Canada.

I mean it - I'm not joking.

 

[Zucchini]

Really? Your promise

 

[Fathom5]

You wanna know what I'm gonna do? Well I'll tell ya.



I'm going to get up everyday and breathe in and out.
I'm going to go work to provide means of support for myself and my kids.
I'm going to spend as much time with my kids as I can.
I'm going to attend Mass with my kids every Sunday.
I'm going to complain about things I have no control over, like politics.
I'm going to just do my best to be a decent man and good citizen.

In other words, I'm going to do the things I do everyday.


It doesn't matter who gets in office the government is still screwed up and whoever is President isn't going to be able to do a damn thing to radically affect my life. Because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't mean diddly anyway.


So there!

 

[chess9]

Fathom5:

LOL! Let's hope you're right.

 

[Fathom5]

chess9
Short of invading another country the President alone can't do anything that radically affects the country that much.

The economy is a constant cycle up and down and the administration can do very little about it other than somewhat delay or accelerate it. Radical changes in other areas take Congress and the President working together and that rarely happens, certainly not with the next administration getting to deal with both house at roughly 50/50.

So why sweat it. Throw out Gore and Bush, put me in the Whitehouse. I can't screw things up any worse than they are now.

 

[Kayes]

I hate to say this and sound like an as*hole. I am sorry too if this is the wrong thread.

This election does not concern US alone, it is affecting the whole f**king world. Falling US market is not good for the rest of the world not to mention without the future leadership sort out ASAP, nothing of significance (middle east?!) will get solved.

STOP IT ALREADY!

 

[chess9]

Fathom5:

You've got my vote.

 

[Fathom5]

You really think the President can do anything to change the thousands of years of hatred in the Middle East? Good luck.

Falling US market? The market will fall because that is part of the cycle. You can slow it down some but you will not stop it. Tech stocks fueled the economy the last few years but are burning out now.

 

[Optimus]

Zucchini - it was a joke that I'm pretty sure no one would get as I'm still fairly unknown here...




(I'm Canadian and already live here )

 

[Capn]

Chess9, I see it is obviously not in your doctrine to admit that you were wrong when it is very clearly shown. This is not a republican/democrat issue, so please don't let your partisanship interfere with logic. Fact is that you don't know what party I belong to, and just so you know I'm registered independent.

Just to reiterate some facts.
jmcoreymv said &quot;6000 absentee ballots came into some county without ID numbers, 5000 were republican and 1000 were democrat. Republican supporters were let in to ILLEGALLY put the ID numbers on the ballot by looking them up in the council computers&quot;

then I said &quot;you know that is funny, cause it's not true. Absentee ballot requests came in that were filled in over a ten day period because of the missing voter ID number.&quot; (emphasis added)

His original statement was not true, and mine was. Where's the confustion anywhere? I feel that what they did was against current law, but it is not tampering with votes. These were absentee ballot requests, not votes. There is a very important and critical difference between the two. This case will not make a difference,and the Gore campaign isn't even bringing the lawsuit. The judge hearing the case did the exact same thing herself during her election.

 

[Zucchini]

Optimus,

Oh hah, i'm also a canadian, just one that was unlucky enough to recieve us citizenship in time for this @#% election.