What would an AMD bankruptcy mean?

[Wreckage]

With the recent financial announcement from AMD, it seems like they could have to file for bankruptcy soon. This is actually a scary thought as they could simply be liquidated to fund the investors. This could make Intel a true monopoly and NVIDIA alone to fight them on other fronts.


http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-...AMD,LVS,S,M,GT,MYL,HTZ

8. Advanced Micro Devices When will AMD actually make money again? The question is becoming more important by the day since it carries over $5 billion in long-term debt. After losing almost $3 billion from 2007 ? 2008, analysts expect the company to lose more money in 2009 and 2010. While the shares rallied from their February $2 low, they still appear stuck in a long-term down trend from $40 highs way back in 2006.

The truly scary part is who they hired to be their new CFO.
http://www.fool.com/investing/...ick-the-right-cfo.aspx

Tom Seifert, the new man for the job, is a former executive at German chip designer Infineon AG and then memory chip maker Qimonda. I don't have anything against Seifert personally, and he certainly has a lot of experience in the semiconductor industry. AMD wouldn't spend a year looking for an executive only to settle for anybody less than solidly qualified for the job. But mention Qimonda and I can't help but be reminded of that company's recent bankruptcy. As an AMD investor, that connection does not make me comfortable.

Personally I would hate to see this happen. Competition is good (not only for our discussions) for everyone.

Comments?

 

[JSt0rm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0

 

[Arkaign]

I don't know what it would mean for AMD, but I hope it doesn't happen. I saw Sprint on that list too though, I hope those fuckers lose everything.

 

[shangshang]

Not gonna happen. Hertz will not going to bk either. Stupid site.

But let's amuse AMD going bk. Then there will be plenty of Arab money waiting to gooble it up, an if not that, then Intel will gobble it up just to get their graphics division (which means the end of Nvidia too).

 

[sandorski]

Best Quarter in awhile and on the same day talk about their Demise?

Failtastic Thread

 

[OCGuy]

They wouldnt go bankrupt, they would be swallowed by a big player.

 

[Sylvanas]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Best Quarter in awhile and on the same day talk about their Demise?

Failtastic Thread

 

[Rezist]

If that did happen and Intel purchased ATi, that would spell the end of nVidia. They'd get huge boost's to there R&D budget then also have access to Intel's fab's which TSMC wouldn't be able to keep up to.

However like we've seen from Intel they wouldn't kill off nVidia they'd let them keep around 10% of the discrete market. Only to avoid any pesky monopoly charges.

 

[novasatori]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Best Quarter in awhile and on the same day talk about their Demise?

Failtastic Thread

:roll:

Just because ATI made money all of a sudden AMD is immune to bankruptcy?

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Best Quarter in awhile and on the same day talk about their Demise?

Failtastic Thread

They still lost like $128 million.

12th quarter in a row they lost money.

Originally posted by: Rezist

However like we've seen from Intel they wouldn't kill off nVidia they'd let them keep around 10% of the discrete market. Only to avoid any pesky monopoly charges.

Sometimes I feel like they are already doing that with AMD.

I may just buy another AMD machine just to chip in.

However, I don't see how they could avoid bankruptcy, which would be horrible for the industry as a whole.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: sandorski
Best Quarter in awhile and on the same day talk about their Demise?

Failtastic Thread

They still lost like $128 million.

12th quarter in a row they lost money.

Originally posted by: Rezist

However like we've seen from Intel they wouldn't kill off nVidia they'd let them keep around 10% of the discrete market. Only to avoid any pesky monopoly charges.

Sometimes I feel like they are already doing that with AMD.

I may just buy another AMD machine just to chip in.

However, I don't see how they could avoid bankruptcy, which would be horrible for the industry as a whole.

Ummm like isn't their daddy saudi ?

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Mr Fox



Ummm like isn't their daddy saudi ?

United Arab Emirates actually. Although it remains unclear if they have interest beyond their take over of the fabs.

 

[ronnn]

Most likely would mean nvidia is already bankrupt. :laugh:

 

[DaveSimmons]

nVidia fans would get to enjoy paying an extra $100 or more for their favorite brand, yay!

Remember the $650 price for nV GTX 280 before the 4870 showed how good it was?

nvidia without competition is at least as bad as intel:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3334

GTX 280 = $650
GTX 260 = $400
9800GTX = $300

3 days later, the 4850 preview:
"n stark contrast to NVIDIA's $650 GPU launch earlier this week, AMD is letting us make an early introduction of the Radeon HD 4850 today. Priced at $199, the Radeon HD 4850 is as fast as, if not faster, than a GeForce 9800 GTX. And in an unexpected move, NVIDIA has also dropped the price on the 9800 GTX to $199 in order to compete."

Even nvidia fanboys might have enjoyed saving that $100.

 

[crazylegs]

Flame bate thread is flame bate.

Another fine job Mr.W.

 

[Elfear]

AMD crashing and burning would indeed be bad for the industry and for consumers.

I actually think this has been one of the more civil posts from Wreckage. I clicked on the thread and my screen didn't become corrupted with green pixelation.

 

[cbn]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
This could make Intel a true monopoly and NVIDIA alone to fight them on other fronts.

Even if AMD drops out I don't see Intel having a monopoly for very long. Good thing Intel decided to get into graphics and SSDs....because Nvidia with Tegra-like products will be eating into mainstream computing probably sooner than we think.

Octo-core (and beyond)? Who is going to need this level of x86 hardware (except maybe Video editors and possibly gamers)

 

[Ben90]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Mr Fox



Ummm like isn't their daddy saudi ?

United Arab Emirates actually. Although it remains unclear if they have interest beyond their take over of the fabs.

Glad Bush isnt our pres still
"B-B-But they had weapons of nano-destruction!"

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
With the recent financial announcement from AMD

Their recent financial was a good one for AMD actually, which if anything would signal that they are improving their financial situation quite rapidly, and heading directly *away* from bankruptcy, which makes this thread quite stupid

Comments?

I'll refrain. I don't want a warning for a personal attack, cause this thread is really calling for it :|

 

[IlllI]

if amd went under intel could price their cpus whatever they felt like. amd is the only one keeping them from doing so, but w/o any competition.. well everyone will be paying much more for their computers.
i guess via would still make some x86 processors but no other company could produce something that could compete with i7 etc.

 

[Zensal]

It would be terrible.

That being said, it won't happen anytime soon. They are actually doing better now, with the GF spinoff.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Wow people, turn your sarcasm meters on... Are you actually taking this thread seriously? After all the garbage he spews in the other threads

Look at this hilarious comment

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Personally I would hate to see this happen. Competition is good (not only for our discussions) for everyone.

Translation: Fuck yeah. Nvidia will rule the world and I can finally ask Jen-Hsun Huang on a date.

:thumbsdown:

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0

Ghostbusters = Win

 

[MrK6]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: WreckagePersonally I would hate to see this happen. Competition is good (not only for our discussions) for everyone.

Translation: Fuck yeah. Nvidia will rule the world and I can finally ask Jen-Hsun Huang on a date.

LOL, that's hilarious.

Anyway, wow, fail thread. The best thing some people have to do on a Friday night is troll? Sad.

 

[Wreckage]

This sums up a lot of the concerns.
http://www.marketwatch.com/sto...-bankruptcy-2009-09-29